VA - Hannah Elizabeth Graham, 18, Charlottesville, 13 Sept 2014 - #2

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leilarose68 said:
nah. i don't think they would go so far as to call him a 'cooperative witness' if they disbelieved him. they might say 'he has been cooperating' but i think their language was deliberate. and then the fact that they're releasing a photo of the black guy... i don't think their eye is on the white dude
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bbm Do you have a link to this? TIA
 
mamabumblebum said:
Not true. I was roofied and didn't pass out for hours. I blacked out quickly but was stumbling around, able to talk to friends but was a complete mess. My friends knew something was wrong (more than just booze) and took me in. Tested positive for roofies. I did eventually pass out at the hospital and I woke up at eight in the morning with zero memory beyond the tainted drink. Nothing.
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she's not exactly a mess in these videos, though. tipsy, yes. highly impaired? no.
 
I noticed both the area near Wertland and the Lexis Nexis building on Water Street are near train tracks. Could that have been a source of confusion when Hannah sent the text at 1:20?
 
SleuthBear said:
First time poster but my partner and I are long time readers of the boards. Sorry if we miss post or cover something that has already been covered:

1. IOP Hannah def seems to be intent on going somewhere and not trying to run from something. That could be intent of finding a familiar location to get her bearings. It kind of reminds me on how I must have looked as a child lost in the grocery store looking for my parents. Even though I had been to that store a hundred times once I lost my way everything apeared to be unfamiliar. Then if there is a possibility of some marijuana use that could also exasperate the feeling off being lost.

2. Here parents stated that she was a smart young woman who is well organized. IOP a woman that was that way wouldn't be out on the town by herself. Also the last text stating that she was lost sounded like it was an expected text. What I mean by that is if I just sent my parents a text saying I was lost they would really have no idea what I was texting about. If I sent my partner a text because I was going somewhere and told him I was lost then he would know what was going on. So the question would be what were the texts like before that text.

3. IOP it is strange that the dread locks guy in white capri pants was on one side while the cell phone guy was on the other side at about the same time. If they were working together there could have been some type of communication between the two, non-verbal, but just possible. Also IOP the guy on the cell does seem to be trying to look non-chalant. Like he already had it planned to move in behind her. We also question how the capri guy was on one side then immediatly behind in the group and how did he get ahead of cell phone guy. Also the cell phone guy had on what appears to be light colored shorts. Yet the guy that was "apperently" folliwng when Hannah appeared to be with Dreadlocks guy was a different person... darker jeans/slacks behind her/them.

But this is only a snap shot in time. You could even say the individual in the video at the pub could have been stalking her as well. A lot of things seem strange about all of this but the hope is that she is safe and soon to be found.
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absentia said:
apparently it's not a guy at all. it is the woman she is with. and she does look like dreadlock guy. and cell phone guy says it was dreadlock guy. weirdness.
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The cell phone guy said it was dreadlock guy? If so, why did they say that the black guy is not depicted in the videos?
 
Claudia said:
Well, I suppose it could depend on how much you had, and how large a person you are. I'm 5'1", 120 lbs. I finished my entire last beer and within minutes, I was like a puddle in the floor.
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You could be right. I am 5'10" and was 130 at the time.
 
MLE said:
That's what she thought too.
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her clothes have nothing to do with what happened to her. the fact that she is a young female may in fact have to do with it given our war on women and children in this country. abuse, incest, rape, murder. not due to clothes - due to POWER AND CONTROL.
 
RSC said:
If cell phone guy is the only one who is talking about her being with some black man, and the only video of her with someone is actually her with a woman, my hinky meter is through the roof on creepy cell phone guy.
To me, that means she walked with the "woman" to ask for help, and creepy cell phone guy is just trying to throw the police off.

BUT why do people keep talking about dreadlocks? Is there video of someone with dreadlocks? Or is that just what creepy cell guy is saying?
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But, according to posts up thread, police will be releasing a photo of a man that she was with.
There must be more video that we have not seen.
If the police have a photo, it had to come from video
 
mirv22 said:
The cell phone guy said it was dreadlock guy? If so, why did they say that the black guy is not depicted in the videos?
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that is freaking confusing. it is NOT a shadow in the jewelry store video.
 
Dushi said:
But, according to posts up thread, police will be releasing a photo of a man that she was with.
There must be more video that we have not seen.
If the police have a photo, it had to come from video
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I believe the term used was "description" not "photo", IMO
 
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