VA - Hannah Elizabeth Graham, 18, Charlottesville, 13 Sept 2014 - #2

[mamabumblebum]

Not true. I was roofied and didn't pass out for hours. I blacked out quickly but was stumbling around, able to talk to friends but was a complete mess. My friends knew something was wrong (more than just booze) and took me in. Tested positive for roofies. I did eventually pass out at the hospital and I woke up at eight in the morning with zero memory beyond the tainted drink. Nothing.

 

[Dixie811]

I will be SHOCKED if the BG description to be released later is the dreadlock guy, especially since it has been stated that person is NOT shown in these videos. Whoever it was that is betting a donut it WILL be dreadlock guy, I'll raise you a dozen.

You guys are making me hungry.. :cupcake:

 

[RSC]

I'm so confused!! Why isn't LE saying anything about a woman??

they need to know what he was doing before and after those videos. I'm sure they asked and didn't just believe him when he handed to baton to dreadlocks. It's weird bc she's by the jewelers with someone who looks like dreads but it's not the same person, and cell phone guy says she caught up with a black man, but that's not who is walking with her arm in arm. it's the woman.
where and when did the black man show up?

 

[Elley Mae]

Thursday, police are back on Charlottesville's downtown mall. They are pulling more surveillance video from different buildings, trying to corroborate the story that Graham was last seen with an unidentified black male.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/26567187/police-continue-search-for-hannah-graham

Posted: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:23 AM EDT Updated: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:52 PM EDT

 

[carbuff]

You are probably correct. What proximity is it to Riviana? I just saw there was police activity at both, and not sure if they are the same.

Pretty much, yeah. On the map they look to be 1-2 blocks apart. But the park runs along the river for at least a mile, from the looks of it, so it would depend on what part of the park they were in.

 

[absentia]

Okay NOW I am confused. This is the person that I have been tracking all along. If this isn't dreds guy, where is the video of him? And then who is Hannah with here??

exactly. and did cell phone guy say she was with dreadlocks or another black man?

 

[popsicle]

Rick Boone ‏@RickBooneFOX5DC 6m
UPDATE Breaking Newsolice tip on a body on the train tracks. But discovered the person alive and NOT the missing UVA student. @fox5newsdc

 

[Heroine]

Yeah but the person is not in any of these videos according to creepy white guy. Who knows he could just be saying that to buy him some time. He could be using the BG story as a scape goat. Who knows? I still think he's creepy and I don't believe his story about trying to help her. SO what he goes to the mall stands in corner and waits for girls in distress to help? I don't buy it!

 

[carbuff]

In other words she is going in the opposite direct of her apartment.

Yes. It's like she's on autopilot or something.

 

[Eileen730]

cell phone guy was following her. then she stopped dreadlock guy to wait with her. then cell phone guy waits and follows until dreadlock guy goes away. then cell phone guy takes Hanna and uses dreadlock guy to throw police off his trail.

Hannah was practically running past Sal's. Cell phone guy was ahead of her. did she not know that? was she afraid of the group of boys? or did she think cell phone guy was still behind her? When she saw him waiting she speeds up a bit. Once the fight or flight kicks in people don't act rationally or from their cognitive brain. she was like a mouse in a maze.

Could cell phone man have HER cell phone?
Is the reason she is running all over the place she lost her phone and is going back to places she thought she left it?
Could cell guy send the text I'm lost after watching g her
Just a thought.

 

[absentia]

BBM

There is nothing wrong with the way she is dressed. Period.

correct. and women have every right to safety when out at night drinking alone. just like men do.
I'm sick of the misogyny and women-blaming going around on the news comments.

although men end up in the water after drinking alone. this is a law of physics, apparently. (sarcasm, smiley faced killers).

 

[leilarose68]

Or they don't want him to run. Or further harm her if they think he is hiding her as part of a sick game. I never put stock in the titles that LE gives to people--they have reasons for everything, most of which we are not privy to. Unless they specifically tell us he is not a person of interest...

nah. i don't think they would go so far as to call him a 'cooperative witness' if they disbelieved him. they might say 'he has been cooperating' but i think their language was deliberate. and then the fact that they're releasing a photo of the black guy... i don't think their eye is on the white dude

 

[absentia]

I'm so confused!! Why isn't LE saying anything about a woman??

they did originally didn't they? she was with an unidentified woman and a man following?

 

[Claudia]

Not true. I was roofied and didn't pass out for hours. I blacked out quickly but was stumbling around, able to talk to friends but was a complete mess. My friends knew something was wrong (more than just booze) and took me in. Tested positive for roofies. I did eventually pass out at the hospital and I woke up at eight in the morning with zero memory beyond the tainted drink. Nothing.

Well, I suppose it could depend on how much you had, and how large a person you are. I'm 5'1", 120 lbs. I finished my entire last beer and within minutes, I was like a puddle in the floor.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Yes. It's like she's on autopilot or something.

To me, this demonstrates disorientation. Was she new to the area?

 

[leilarose68]

correct. and women have every right to safety when out at night drinking alone. just like men do.
I'm sick of the misogyny and women-blaming going around on the news comments.

me too. that's why i love the sheriff on the case. he has zero tolerance for any of that cr*p

 

[SleuthBear]

First time poster but my partner and I are long time readers of the boards. Sorry if we miss post or cover something that has already been covered:

1. In Our Opinnion IOO Hannah def seems to be intent on going somewhere and not trying to run from something. That could be intent of finding a familiar location to get her bearings. It kind of reminds me on how I must have looked as a child lost in the grocery store looking for my parents. Even though I had been to that store a hundred times once I lost my way everything apeared to be unfamiliar. Then if there is a possibility of some marijuana use that could also exasperate the feeling off being lost.

2. Here parents stated that she was a smart young woman who is well organized. IOO a woman that was that way wouldn't be out on the town by herself. Also the last text stating that she was lost sounded like it was an expected text. What I mean by that is if I just sent my parents a text saying I was lost they would really have no idea what I was texting about. If I sent my partner a text because I was going somewhere and told him I was lost then he would know what was going on. So the question would be what were the texts like before that text.

3. IOO it is strange that the dread locks guy in white capri pants was on one side while the cell phone guy was on the other side at about the same time. If they were working together there could have been some type of communication between the two, non-verbal, but just possible. Also IOP the guy on the cell does seem to be trying to look non-chalant. Like he already had it planned to move in behind her. We also question how the capri guy was on one side then immediatly behind in the group and how did he get ahead of cell phone guy. Also the cell phone guy had on what appears to be light colored shorts. Yet the guy that was "apperently" folliwng when Hannah appeared to be with Dreadlocks guy was a different person... darker jeans/slacks behind her/them.

But this is only a snap shot in time. You could even say the individual in the video at the pub could have been stalking her as well. A lot of things seem strange about all of this but the hope is that she is safe and soon to be found.

 

[RSC]

If cell phone guy is the only one who is talking about her being with some black man, and the only video of her with someone is actually her with a woman, my hinky meter is through the roof on creepy cell phone guy.
To me, that means she walked with the "woman" to ask for help, and creepy cell phone guy is just trying to throw the police off.

BUT why do people keep talking about dreadlocks? Is there video of someone with dreadlocks? Or is that just what creepy cell guy is saying?

exactly. and did cell phone guy say she was with dreadlocks or another black man?

 

[Yoda]

Rick Boone ‏@RickBooneFOX5DC 6m
UPDATE Breaking Newsolice tip on a body on the train tracks. But discovered the person alive and NOT the missing UVA student. @fox5newsdc

Way to give me a heartattack! :seeya:

 

[Claudia]

I'm so confused!! Why isn't LE saying anything about a woman??

IIRC, They said she was walking with a woman at first, then decided it was just her reflection.