VA VA - Mamta Kafle Bhatt, 28, mom & pediatric nurse, 'involuntary missing,' husband reported her missing Aug 5, Manassas Park, 31 July 2024 *Arrest*

[MIG214222]

I have a feeling she has strong women in her life, though. It will be sad, but I'm also very glad she won't live with the pain of "losing" her. Only with never really knowing her, if that makes any sense. As someone else said many posts ago, I hope they can somehow fast track her back to India so she can grow up learning their language and culture. Unless she's with an Indian foster family here, i guess that would be the best option for a little one just learning to talk, etc.

Hi @TTF14,
We also agree Mamta Kafle's daughter should be with her grandmother & family, but in Nepal, learning Nepalese language & culture.
Immigration attorney who worked to speed up the process of getting Mamta's mother and brother to the United States from Nepal.
From our understanding, the current carer is also from Nepal.
MOO

 

[TTF14]

Hi @TTF14,
We also agree Mamta Kafle's daughter should be with her grandmother & family, but in Nepal, learning Nepalese language & culture.
Immigration attorney who worked to speed up the process of getting Mamta's mother and brother to the United States from Nepal.
From our understanding, the current carer is also from Nepal.
MOO

Glad to hear that, and thank you for the information. I'm super busy right now and not following every post. Thank you!

 

[CeciliaLizeth]

When people come as immigrants/refugees, it is a very different way with better support systems and rules. But too many, myself including, came on work visas and got naturalized via the green card route. This is a long way, and one has rely on either a community, or good friends to help. I had friends. And it was difficult to talk truthfully about any difficulty during calls to my parents. And of course, parents don't realize how hard it is to make a living here. So I can imagine how Mamta felt. (And I grew up in the country that was not free politically, but ideologically, in my time, was not conservative at all.)

Just a thought. Communities might be split by factors we as outsiders are poorly aware of, so i suspect thinking of some informal female mentorship should help. So far female mentorship is more work-based. Had Mamta survived, I see her, as a nurse, an American-Nepalese woman, eventually becoming such a mentor for younger women, and not only for her own community. Her friend in whose place she used to hide was from another culture, as I understand. There are lots of things we all notice. Maybe start thinking that when we come, we are less divided and more united?

I know that Mamta is now resting eternally, but I feel as a society; this was the reason she was put in our lives. I don't even know you, or Mamta but our sisterhood is the undercurrent that connects us and we stand with our brethren who are here on the chat offering their offerings of community love through their insights and advice.

I echo your sentiments and stand with you in community. We have to get past the layers of culture and race/ethnicity and look underneath the issue unearthed - Domestic Violence. It crosses all race and color. It's a universal issue which has UNITED US! You are spot on with that insight.

I am cheering you on as you yourself start to make yourself available to those struggling while at the same time becoming vulnerable yourself and allowing you to be loved by others. The community where Mamta came from really inspired me to stop listening to the noise and embrace the love THERE IS around us. Look up. It's really there! Hugs and blessings to you!

 

[CeciliaLizeth]

Hi @TTF14,
We also agree Mamta Kafle's daughter should be with her grandmother & family, but in Nepal, learning Nepalese language & culture.
Immigration attorney who worked to speed up the process of getting Mamta's mother and brother to the United States from Nepal.
From our understanding, the current carer is also from Nepal.
MOO

this is a really tough conversation and we all have our outside perspectives. Let us bond together and pray that the best and wisest decision is made for Mini Mamta.

 

[Diavola]

Mamta's family probably thought they were setting her up for success and a good life by arranging a marriage with a man who lived and worked in the US.
Not sure if it's allowed to be posted but Mamta had a TikTok account, she posted videos with her daugther. There are a few with the husband, too.

 

[MIG214222]

Let us bond together and pray that the best and wisest decision is made for Mini Mamta.

Hello @CeciliaLizeth,
Most certainly, that goes without saying - the point of my reply to @TTF14 was that seeing Mamta Kafle's daughter end up in India, speaking Indian & learning the Indian culture, would most likely not be the outcome aligned with Mamta Kafle's deepest wishes.
I also wonder - IF Mamta Kafle were here to be asked - who would you like to care for your daughter, your flesh & blood, for the rest of her life, who would you select?

MOO

 

[CeciliaLizeth]

Hello @CeciliaLizeth,
Most certainly, that goes without saying - the point of my reply to @TTF14 was that seeing Mamta Kafle's daughter end up in India, speaking Indian & learning the Indian culture, would most likely not be the outcome aligned with Mamta Kafle's deepest wishes.
I also wonder - IF Mamta Kafle were here to be asked - who would you like to care for your daughter, your flesh & blood, for the rest of her life, who would you select?

MOO

the thing is, I don't know her, never knew her so I could not speak for her deepest wishes. So I deeply respect your perspective and where you're coming from. I'm merely offering no perspective because I come from a place of zero knowledge. I unite with everyone and looking beyond myself and praying the best outcome for Mini Mamta, even if it's one I would agree with our disagree with. This is my humble opinion.

 

[TTF14]

the thing is, I don't know her, never knew her so I could not speak for her deepest wishes. So I deeply respect your perspective and where you're coming from. I'm merely offering no perspective because I come from a place of zero knowledge. I unite with everyone and looking beyond myself and praying the best outcome for Mini Mamta, even if it's one I would agree with our disagree with. This is my humble opinion.

Great points. My point being I think children are always better off placed with family, if it can be arranged and there are safe family members to go with. Assuming there are none in America, it would reason that Mini Mamta would be best off in India with her relatives....and sooner rather than later given her age and just learning to talk.

I'm not a social services professional by any means, although I do have volunteer experience in the arena .

IMO MOO

 

[vls12345]

@TTF14 , Mamta and her family are from Nepal, not India. Additionally, LE have been working with/communicating with the local Nepali community.

Police tell Mamta Kafle Bhatt's friends there's 'no indication' she's alive

Manassas Park Police Chief Mario Lugo told Mamta Kafle Bhatt’s friends and fellow members of the Nepalese community Thursday afternoon that police have not yet found her body but also

www.princewilliamtimes.com

Nepal - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[CeciliaLizeth]

Great points. My point being I think children are always better off placed with family, if it can be arranged and there are safe family members to go with. Assuming there are none in America, it would reason that Mini Mamta would be best off in India with her relatives....and sooner rather than later given her age and just learning to talk.

I'm not a social services professional by any means, although I do have volunteer experience in the arena .

IMO MOO

Thank you for sharing this. I think that's the whole point, to come together as a community and extend ourselves from the point of expertise in our respective fields. You have been in social services settings and offer that point of view. That's so helpful not just to the Mamta case but for anyone here reading our comments navigating the US system. That was my heart's intention in starting a thread, from an immigrant's eyes looking into the US legal system. How can we extend ourselves and be there for each other in these tough moments. May you continue to be used in your community and to those you serve. Blessings to you!

 

[TTF14]

Thank you for sharing this. I think that's the whole point, to come together as a community and extend ourselves from the point of expertise in our respective fields. You have been in social services settings and offer that point of view. That's so helpful not just to the Mamta case but for anyone here reading our comments navigating the US system. That was my heart's intention in starting a thread, from an immigrant's eyes looking into the US legal system. How can we extend ourselves and be there for each other in these tough moments. May you continue to be used in your community and to those you serve. Blessings to you!

But, I completely lack any knowledge of what Indian parents, mothers of daughters in particular, would want for their children!

 

[CeciliaLizeth]

@TTF14 , Mamta and her family are from Nepal, not India. Additionally, LE have been working with/communicating with the local Nepali community.

Police tell Mamta Kafle Bhatt's friends there's 'no indication' she's alive

Manassas Park Police Chief Mario Lugo told Mamta Kafle Bhatt’s friends and fellow members of the Nepalese community Thursday afternoon that police have not yet found her body but also

www.princewilliamtimes.com

Nepal - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

It is my sincere hope that you extend grace when our community accidentally says Indian vs. Nepali. As a Mexican, I often hear people call other Hispanics Mexican when they are from other countries. We are all trying our best and extending grace when there is a mistake is what keeps us together. Blessings to you!

 

[TTF14]

It is my sincere hope that you extend grace when our community accidentally says Indian vs. Nepali. As a Mexican, I often hear people call other Hispanics Mexican when they are from other countries. We are all trying our best and extending grace when there is a mistake is what keeps us together. Blessings to you!

Thank you .

 

[CeciliaLizeth]

But, I completely lack any knowledge of what Indian parents, mothers of daughters in particular, would want for their children!

same, so we tag the next person who can help in this area. There is power in community.

 

[TTF14]

@TTF14 , Mamta and her family are from Nepal, not India. Additionally, LE have been working with/communicating with the local Nepali community.

Police tell Mamta Kafle Bhatt's friends there's 'no indication' she's alive

Manassas Park Police Chief Mario Lugo told Mamta Kafle Bhatt’s friends and fellow members of the Nepalese community Thursday afternoon that police have not yet found her body but also

www.princewilliamtimes.com

Nepal - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

My apologies! I'm admittedly geographically challenged when it comes to Asian countries .

 

[PommyMommy]

AUG 24, 2024

'Justice for Mamta'; loved ones eager to find presumed dead body of Manassas Park woman

There has been an outpouring of support from the community since the beginning of Mamta's disappearance.

wjla.com

There are memories that Mamta's best friend, Nadia Navarro, said she'll cherish forever, even though Mamta's were cut short.

"Mamta had so many dreams that she’s never going to get to realize. She wanted to be a nurse practitioner. She wanted more kids. She wanted to do so, so much, and she’s never going to get to do that," Navarro said. "She is this kind of person that has a huge heart, and she gives to others. It's horrifying to me that her love was something that was used against her."

 

[Sleuthine]

But, I completely lack any knowledge of what Indian parents, mothers of daughters in particular, would want for their children!

Immigrant here (though different country) with immigrant spouse (from again another country).

As much as we love the US, we would want the kids to be back “home” with family. For the reason that it is our family. But again, this is very individual.

The main issue is if there is no Estate Planning being done before a death (not sure if they have), the child will automatically remain in the US for the time being (in regular cases). Which does make sense but might not be what the mom actually would have wanted.

I hope that they will find a good solution.

 

[Hausos]

As a South Asian, fostering and foster care is virtually non-existent in our communities. This extends to South Asians born and raised in foreign countries - they are one of the least likely demographics to adopt or put their children up for adoption. When a child is orphaned or if their parents are unable to care for them, the child will typically be cared for by aunts or uncles or grandparents (unless it is an extremely rare case where there is absolutely no family available).

In our cultures, it is typical for children to live with their families even after 18 (essentially they live with parents until their education is complete and until they are officially married). For example, when I was 21 and brought up the idea of wanting to get an apartment just to learn how to 'live on my own', my parents forbid it. South Asian parents will essentially pay for your education and necessities, not charge you rent, and let you save until you're married and ready to purchase your own home. If they have the financial means, they'll give you money, cosign, etcetera, to make that purchase. Sometimes even when children are married off, the entire family will still live together. It is expected for South Asian children to take care of their parents when they become elderly & when they need it the most. Placing elderly parents in a residential facility is extremely uncommon. There are obviously new generations that may not practice the same exact customs to a T, but I think my understanding of the culture is similar amongst all South Asians (Pakistanis, Indians, Nepalese, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans, etcetera).

I don't really know what Mamta would want for her child and cannot speak on her behalf (would she want her child to be with a close friend in America or with immediate family in Nepal)? However, from a South Asian perspective, I think being with Mamta's mother (Mamta's family in general) is the best option for now. I hope the family gains custody of the child. The child has US citizenship anyway, and could always return to America when she grows up and if she so decides. JMO.

 

[Charlot123]

What is it about men doing this, seriously. I just watched the new Laci Peterson docuseries. But I could fill a page with names. List. Dupont de Ligonnes. Jeffrey MacDonald, too. I think the baby in this case is very lucky to be alive - these cases often have fatal outcomes for the kids, too.

It's like the killer's ego won't allow their partner to exist without them. Like their partner thriving independent of them doesn't occur to them, because they're the centre of the universe. They just get to a place where they're not feeling it anymore and hit hard reset. You have to be completely narcissistic to do that. Not see your family as actual people, just as... furniture.

MOO

I’d call it narcissistic, tubular vision coupled with utter stupidity. Take seemingly educated business owners like David Knezevic or Barry Morphew, and you’ll see the same blindly obstinate pattern, to kill because of unwillingness to divide money in divorce, and then, throw all the “saved” money on lawyers.

IMHO, what would push a man to annihilate a spouse is well-known. Sadly, we are not so good at predicting individual behavior, otherwise why is it always such a “shock to neighbors?”

However, there may be one “preventive” factor for some men, and it is ingrained respect to women. Not showy respect, but acknowledging that there have been many situations, in all cultures and communities, when women had to both take on husband’s jobs and raise their kids, and they have managed, and this is why we, humans, are here? Any culture has dozens of own stories.

JMO, if we teach girls to closely observe how their future spouses’ fathers treat own wives, that could help them more than we can imagine.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“The Manassas Park Police Department is still investigating the disappearance of Mamta Kafle Bhatt and hoping to locate her,” the statement continues. “There are additional investigative leads being actively pursued and may result in additional charges being brought.”

The couple share a daughter who recently turned 1, police said, who was placed in the care of the Department of Social Services after her father's arrest

Virginia man arrested on suspicion of 'concealment of dead body' weeks after wife vanishes

Naresh Bhatt was charged in connection to the disappearance of his wife, Mamta Kafle Bhatt, a 28-year-old pediatric nurse who went missing in July.

www.usatoday.com