VA VA - Richmond, WhtFem 25-45, UP59935 in abandon home, belt "Carol", "keep on truckg" buckle, Feb'77

[cheemsg]

I'd be up for making a recon for her.

Do you have a website where you post recons? I wanted to add some to the unidentified wiki but they won’t let me without a site to link back to (if you approve of me sharing ofc)

 

[Moonwalker9]

Could she be. She went missing just a few weeks before in Virginia. Looks close?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Do you have a website where you post recons? I wanted to add some to the unidentified wiki but they won’t let me without a site to link back to (if you approve of me sharing ofc)

I would love it if you did - I don't have a website but I do have an imgur collection. I suppose it's high time I made one.

 

[CarlK90245]

@CarlK90245 in case you are interested.


Side note, her teeth look to be in great condition based off the PM

Working on it. Coming along nicely.

 

[cenazoic]

Peggy Reed still the only exclusion.

My (limited) understanding about NamUs, and Virginia’s use of it in particular, is that VA fairly aggressively pursues ruleouts. Does the fact this this woman only has one imply anything?

 

[MadMcGoo]

In case NamUs removes them…

Spoiler: ** POST MORTEM IMAGES **

 

[MadMcGoo]

I can't speak to this lady. There were 2 reported deaths in Richmond on February 8, 1977, due to freezing temperatures. The article does reference the body of a female being found, except the article states the woman's body was recovered behind an abandoned building, so I don't believe this to be the Doe in question.

Feb 08, 1977, page 1 - The News-Virginian at Newspapers.com - Newspapers.com

View the digital scanned newspaper from The News-Virginian dated Feb 08, 1977, page 1.

www.newspapers.com

I think you did find our Doe.

UP59935 1977 VA

Clipping found in Richmond Times-Dispatch published in Richmond, Virginia on 2/9/1977. UP59935 1977 VA

www.newspapers.com

 

[CarlK90245]

 

[Senora_Smith]

Her arm scar might be from a surgery. I know 2 people with elbow scars similar to hers. One was my little brother who fell off his bike and shattered his elbow. He went to the hospital the next day and had surgery that left him with a scar that looks like that. The other is my husband. He had a hang gliding accident while not too far off the ground. He broke his arm right above the elbow and had surgery that left him with a scar that looks like that. https://www.namus.gov/api/CaseSets/NamUs/UnidentifiedPersons/Cases/59935/Images/82353/Original

 

[bednarluck1]

Carol is my mother you have any questions about this I can give you all the information that I know I'm still wondering about a lot of it myself

Carol has not been identified. What do you mean?

 

[bednarluck1]

I wish we had a COD for her. It would help us figure out where she came from

My thinking is hypothermia

 

[bednarluck1]

@CarlK90245 in case you are interested.


Side note, her teeth look to be in great condition based off the PM

Kind of looks like the two bottom front teeth turn in slightly

 

[bednarluck1]

The woman wearing the “Carol” belt has not been identified, therefore this cannot be her child…

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Please let me know if I can help.The woman wearing the Carol belt has not been identified, therefore this cannot be their child…

 

[bednarluck1]

Something about this Carol reminds me of the UID. Maybe the hair description? A picture sure would help…maybe browse through yearbooks.

Carol Louise Rodriguez – The Charley Project

She is one of my choices also

 

[bednarluck1]

Peggy Reed still the only exclusion.

My (limited) understanding about NamUs, and Virginia’s use of it in particular, is that VA fairly aggressively pursues ruleouts. Does the fact this this woman only has one imply anything?

I just complained about this. There are so many that meet the requirement that she has not been excluded from.

 

[bednarluck1]

In her postmortem it looks like she may have a chin dimple. More noticeable in the side shot. She also has some fairly deep forehead lines leading me to believe she’s closer to 30-40.

 

[Susikatze]

Carol has not been identified. What do you mean?

He was referring to Carol Rodriguez who was suggested as possible match.

 

[Senora_Smith]

These two 14 year olds went missing on the same day this Doe was found. They were last seen in Roanoke, VA.
Tammy Lynn Akers is listed as having red/auburn hair. I know it's not the age range. Is it possible the age range is wrong? Especially in the 70s?

1563DFVA - Angela Mae Rader

36DFVA - Tammy Lynn Akers

 

[DS2021]

These two 14 year olds went missing on the same day this Doe was found. They were last seen in Roanoke, VA.
Tammy Lynn Akers is listed as having red/auburn hair. I know it's not the age range. Is it possible the age range is wrong? Especially in the 70s?

1563DFVA - Angela Mae Rader

36DFVA - Tammy Lynn Akers

personally i think she looks much older than 14 in her post mortem

 

[subaw0067]

She is one of my choices also

Shes definitely the closest match in NAMUS, but I don't think she's Jane Doe, IMO. In the photo of Carol Rodriguez it looks like she has quite a bit of space between all 4 of her upper incisors, while in the PM photos of JD the upper incisors appear close together. This could just be the angles and poor quality photographs. I wish there was a picture where we could see Carol Rodriguezs' ears.