Verdict is in! GUILTY of MURDER ONE - Hung Jury On Penalty Phase #2

[Observer in AZ]

I did a bit of research, and it looks like judges in AZ (in most counties) are appointed and then face a retention vote during elections. So, while not as prone to political considerations as judges who are directly elected every 4 years, I think JSS is very mindful that sentencing the Defendant to life with the possibility of parole might be a political disaster for the Judge. (Only 2 judges have been ousted by retention elections since 1974, but this case is huge).

I don't think JSS was biased as much as she was bending over backwards to limit appellate issues (nothing wrong with that). What I do criticize her for is inconsistency in evidentiary rulings, and an absurd number of sidebars. Most of the sidebars were due to Wilmott and Nurmi's lack of knowledge on how to make a proper objection. She allowed this trial to go on twice as long as it should have. She is lucky she only lost 3 jurors.

Funny this is brought up because I actually review the Judges 'ratings' by collegues, attorneys & defendents before I go vote! It's always bothered me because there's not very much information available to educate yourself!!

 

[FLmom777]

Can you share a link to the picture you saw.. TIA

I can't link (posting from my phone) but it was in the last thread before this one opened.

 

[Maryann123]

Last night I said I thought Ponytail was one of the hold outs for the DP. Today, I think he was so pizzed off at the other jurors, that he couldn't bring himself to get on the bus with them. Just wanted to put that out there, and correct my thinking from last night.

 

[Jenivere]

This lawyer on HLN (I know, I know) said there was no such thing as parole in AZ, anymore. Is that true?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

He denied that he or his production company had paid the family any money. Jodi is funneling the artwork proceeds to her family though.

Dr P's "word" is about as good as JA's "word" :liar: ... Dr P also denied paying the A's over half a million $$$$$ for their "interviews" and that was proven wrong ...

But it was proven that his producer visited Jodi at the :jail: because it was in the jail logs ...

And we know that Sheriff Joe was allowing the media to visit her in the :jail:

:moo:

 

[kscornfed]

The other part of the interview with the foreman that I hadn't seen before. I'm madder than I've ever been! She is a human. She did something horrible but why did she do it?'

http://www.azcentral.com/video/2407451853001

wow. he almost quoted jennifer's opening statement: 'the question is, what would FORCE her to do it?'

how about she's a psychopathic, manipulative, lying little beeyotch? did y'all miss that part?

 

[rose222]

OMG ... "She's a human" ...

No, dude, you got it wrong again ... she's a convicted murderer !

:seeya: And THANKS Rose for posting this -- I had not seen it !

I'm completely disgusted! He talks about her having done a horrible thing?? What an understatement! Having an affair (for example) would be a 'horrible' thing. Butchering someone is just a 'horrible' thing? What? And he talked about the 'hate' she's getting? He really does sympathize with her and the family.

Why did he not talk about Travis? Mentioning his family (along side JA's family!) is ok but what about TRAVIS? Why not take the opportunity to say something good about him? About how sorry it is that his life was cut short? Is it normal to pity the criminal and not the victim??

My heart aches and my stomach burns!

 

[Nhic]

Does anyone know how many jurors voted for the DP? TIA

 

[Pink Panther]

:rocker: I totally agree with both of you about the foreman ...

He did come off "smug" and so sure of himself ...

I can't wait to read a statement analysis of this know-it-all's remarks ...

:moo:

Remember at the very beginning of the trial when the juror's first asked about TA's room-mates and where they were? And we were floored because it didn't sound like they understood that she was pleading guilty?

ehem.

 

[suzyq211]

Interesting point at which to cut him off. Tune in, folks, for the answer. Shameless ratingsmongers.

Why did she do it? I dunno, maybe because she has a character defect, among other things, and can never be cured or treated? She is a monster who will kill again, if allowed, at the very least will manipulate and emotionally torture her victims till the end of her days? OMG give me patience...

 

[Amster]

The other part of the interview with the foreman that I hadn't seen before. I'm madder than I've ever been! She is a human. She did something horrible but why did she do it?'

http://www.azcentral.com/video/2407451853001

Condescending....I best not say more....:stormingmad:

 

[DAWN TREADER]

The other part of the interview with the foreman that I hadn't seen before. I'm madder than I've ever been! She is a human. She did something horrible but why did she do it?'

http://www.azcentral.com/video/2407451853001

I feel so bad for the Alexander family. Hopefully they will remember there are 8 jurors who aren't hung up on why Jodi Arias premeditated the vicious slaughter of their brother. The facts in evidence answered that question.

 

[rose222]

Wow....finding a motive is not the job of a juror.

Now I am disgusted. He seemed like a pompous twit. He never even considered many people outside the courtroom have way more information than they did.

Did you see the other interview? He says they did not try to sway the others? What the he$$ is the point of deliberations and a foreman? He seems to think influencing one another = coercing. Not true! I'm so mad!

 

[suzyq211]

Does anyone know how many jurors voted for the DP? TIA

I believe eight??

 

[Lilly12]

HLN is reporting that Its mother thought it was just another question and her and her family were off sightseeing at the time the verdict came down. It looks like some miscommunication. In fairness to Jodi's mother, she has been there every day since January and although I think it was foolish to plan sightseeing trips right at a time when a verdict was expected, she was told that it was a question so I guess she did not think it was imperative to be in court.

So was Travis' family there every day, and they didn't go on a sightseeing tour. And how in the world could you enjoy yourself knowing that your daughter is facing a death penalty. moo

 

[gauntlet]

Interesting point at which to cut him off. Tune in, folks, for the answer. Shameless ratingsmongers.

Very frank comments on the exhaustion - I don't think any of us could imagine how that must feel and I'm sure they were capable of seeing this through when they began. The DT dragging this out 'worked' and perahps the jury were just past the point of being able to give anymore. Everyone has a breaking point. God bless them for their commitment.


I am hoping this is just hugely edited.
I am hoping this is just hugely edited.
I am hoping this is just hugely edited.

Because hearing this almost makes me surprised he agreed with a M1 verdict. "And that's why, one of the reasons I'm taking time to do this is because we are dealing with a human being here. We had to sit in judgement of another human. " It sounds like he is speaking out for the CM.

The comment about the public yelling and screaming despite not knowing what's going on was weird. Does he not not think we know more than them or has the interview been edited so badly? Did the CM not deserve all the vitriol? Perhaps he also believed the stress on ALV and Patti. And does he think Travis did something to cause this. "And she did something terrible but why did she do it?"

With a new fresh jury, JM can take it forward and get that final verdict.

I'll be very very glad to hear from the rest of the jury.

Btw if this is not edited, I'd be prepared to guess he was on the LWOP count.

I am hoping this is just hugely edited.
I am hoping this is just hugely edited.
I am hoping this is just hugely edited.

 

[rose222]

Does anyone know how many jurors voted for the DP? TIA

8 jurors.

 

[RadarLuv]

19 miles down river from Hoover? I doubt the items would be bloody.

I don't remember which direction, but said that several items were found in one place. I am a bit skeptical, but with this case.....anything is possible.

 

[hindsight2020]

Another clip I hadn't seen. So is he saying they all expressed their individual opinions but did not try to influence one another? Isn't that the point of deliberations? Isn't there a difference between influence and coerce? What's the point of a foreman if they just express their feelings and sign the verdict form?


http://www.azcentral.com/video/2407461515001

I sense some hipocrisy from this foreman, they came back deadlocked after only deliberating for only 1.5 hours, hence, they had made up their mind long ago that they would not vote for the DP and did not take the time to follow jury instructions and/or discuss the mitigating factors or lack thereof.

 

[rachael123]

Can you imagine not begging for your child's life.Can you imagine going sight seeing while a jury is deciding whether your child gets life or death.I can't.

I was curious about this as well. I looked up wild About Trial's twitter feed and Wild pretty much concurred that everyone thought it was, in fact, another juror question...

Be that as it may, it is still odd, IMO, that her family would even consider leaving the courthouse, on a Thursday afternoon, with a Holiday weekend, knowing that their "loved" might be sentenced to death. That's so bizarre to me.