verdict watch 5/7/2013 #2

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My question to that member was if she would be okay if her partner suggested a sexual fantasy wherein she raped little boys. She replied that if it were fantasy, then it was just fine, and sure.

I am shocked that ANYONE onWS would be cool with that. I know that I will keep an even closer watch on my baby, seeing how many people here think it's no big deal. I now know how many sick people are out there waiting to hurt my child. :(

Like I said, you're really twisting things. Nobody here on WS is cool with it.
 
May I have a healthy glug of your Johnny?

My mind is reeling with what people will defend just to be "right".

I need alcho-ma-hol.

I decided on a nice wine instead, which I'm happy to share.

Scroll, roll & drink, gf.

*cheers*

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I don't think JA had anything to do with TA/Deanna not getting married. Linda Ballard Boss was on Nancy Grace and she said Travis bought a ring for her and she broke up with him before he could give it to her because she did not like his PPL job. Gossip??

Correct. He long-distance broke up with Deanna for Linda and got back with Deanna once Linda "shined him on" ;)
 
I just took a valium, and walked out side to have a smoke. My nerves are shot! All because of your lying, stalking, and murdering self Jodi....we sit here and wait for justice. Of course that's something you would know NOTHING about :stormingmad:

Here's hoping it's tomorrow!

Tomorrow (annie) Lyrics - YouTube

Hey girl,

How's your day?

I think of you and your son every day. I am not a praying person, but I am sending you every ounce of healing thoughts I can send.

Sorry for OT. But Rosemary, you are loved.
 
For those with time and worry, I'd recommend listening to Tricia's show from Sunday where Chris Hughes talks for nearly 3 hours about his relationship with Travis and many unspoken aspects of this case. Or just ff to the end where he gives a "What Would Travis Say" speech of sorts which is very inspiring. If you're worried, it will make you feel better I feel sure.

Just a suggestion:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websle...as-true-crime-radio-sunday-night-8-pm-eastern

It was amazing .. Katiecoo .. the number of times I am asked to link someone to the Elephants for Travis thread inside and outside this forum has increased so much I've had to create a permanent bookmark! That story was so amazing .. I just got asked not 10 minutes ago again .. just letting you know it's gone way past just us here at WS :)
 
Jodi Arias threatened to expose the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints if her case went to trial.

She was exploiting a cultural element present in Mormon society which says that church members should never do anything to put the church in bad light. She is suggesting that the Alexander family should "save" the church by taking her plea.

It has nothing to do with Travis being important in the church (which he was not). It has to do with her threatening to expose some of the sexual excuses that single young people use as rationalizations to have sex. All these anal/oral rationalizations have been thoroughly discussed in the church in the seventies. It was parsed to death and specific instructions were given that ALL sexual conduct is prohibited, not just vaginal intercourse.

So what is she exposing? That young men rationalize premarital sex to young women who are new members? Maybe, so what? It is nothing that hundreds of thousands of other young people have done, been forgiven and gone on with their faithful Mormon lives. Not exactly a revelation.

It is not Travis Alexander who is thought to be so important, it is her, Jodi Arias, the one with secrets. I believe that this beeyotch has kept every old boyfriend she ever had tied to her leather dominatrix belt by the secrets she knew about them. She is very comfortable with blackmail. This is how she has manipulated all these men (notice the lack of women?) She gets them to go along with her "creative" sex ideas and then threatens to tell their wives and their girlfriends that they made her take it up the a$$ or whatever (and ruin their present relationship).

So its nothing for her to threaten the whole male-dominated Mormon church with the idea that she has secrets they might not want revealed.

There is nothing that bishop didn't already know. The members all rat on each other and especially if a blonde bombshell showed up sucking ears and licking necks--are you kidding? There would be tire marks on the pavement those ladies would be reporting that so fast!

I am so glad the Alexander family didn't shake like chihuahuas when the three hold wonder did her fear dance.

Poor Travis missed the fourth hole, doncha know? The one in her head that makes her think she's going to get away with this.
 
100% through with this case and all future cases. We need professional jurors, not rag tag morons!

Professional as in, paid for their expertise? What qualifications would they need?

I know our system isn't perfect, but I'm not ready to trade my right to "jury of my peers" for potential "hired guns".

If I lived in Arizona I would get behind drafting a bill to limit unsubstantiated evidence that was created for sole purpose of discrediting the victim. It seems entirely possible to do in this case, given what we know.
 
This post to rebut JC, as usual. :notgood:

From the lovely Katie Wick in case you didn't see it:

Katie Wick ‏@KatieWickUSA

Jurors just got on elevator. Gone for the day. Couple of them laughing a lot. Seemed relaxed #justicefortravis


I dont like that. Why is there any reason to laugh? really? yes I know they have lives.
 
Has this been discussed? Deanna said when she went to Travis' house she was surprised to see Jodi there. She smelled the cookies baking.....but there was no car in the driveway So, where was she parking her car when was sneaking around Travis' house? This is exactly what she did the day she killed Travis. Seems like she had a lot of practice at this!
 
FrayedKnot you are way off base here. Kinky ADULT fantasies involving adult role play has nothing to do with any children. If you can't draw that distinction then you should maybe reevaluate some things.
Yes, I totally agree.

And I say that as someone who is pretty vanilla (no kink at our house, just plain good old fashioned romance ;) ) AND as someone who found what Travis said pretty distasteful.
 
k, i want to try this again. i had been on earlier, and i wanted to comment on the convo...

i know someone posted earlier about his "pediphilia turn-ons," and felt it was an unfair assessment.

as i'm sure someone has already said, he never said anything to her about boys spiderman underpants...she CLAIMS he sent her a pair as a gift. she is supreme manipulator. she also posed with a another "gift." a t-shirt with the words "Travis Alexander's," which of course she loved b/c he was claiming her, announcing that she was his. funny thing though. if you look at his blog, he had those very t-shirts made up, and on the back was the name of his blog. in other words, the t-shirt states, "travis alexander's....blog"

this is what she does. this is how she twists things into her own reality.

i wanted to comment on this ...



i get it...i'm a mom with a 12 year old son and a 15 year old daughter...i get it..

but what i'm unsure of is why would you believe that a friend or acquaintance would make a comment about a 12 year old girl having an orgasm, and mean it in a sexual way? there would be no reason for someone to make any sort of comment like that, and if they did, you would be right to side-eye the hell out of them and want to exit stage left ASAP.

however, if you and your spouse were to record a sexual encounter, one or both of you would likely exclaim something that your friends just might find distasteful. but that's the thing about private sexual moments being made public.

moreover, if you recall, in an earlier text, JA was the one to insert the "school girl fantasy talk," and as chris hughs said in one of his interviews, "KY wasn't the only thing she introduced travis to."

the phone sex, which was clearly taped w/o travis's knowledge, was presented in court completely out of context. if you listen to the whole thing, the first 20 minutes or so are mundane chatter, and then she starts turning the convo into sex talk. and isn't it funny how anytime he says anything "incriminating," jodi asks him to repeat himself. interesting don't you think?

all i'm trying to say, is that all the deviancy that was discussed during this trial has been for the most part unsubstantiated. believe me, some of what was revealed, that we know actually happened b/c it took place in the form of texts, made me cringe. but again, those were private moments, twisted to fit the DTs agenda. what was even more outrageous was the DTs ability to hire experts that took the stand and repeated JAs allegations as if they were proven facts. and they weren't.

all i'm trying to say is i think that given the circumstances, i think its safe to cut travis some slack. he wasn't perfect, and some of his private moments can be viewed negatively...but god knows i think thats pretty much true of everyone.

MOO :)

(and i swear to god if this doesn't go through!!!!)

You're coming through, loud and clear and I completely agree.
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I for one, am not going to let JA manipulate and control or influence one more minute of my day.

Imagine what she's doing to those jurors. I think that hex thing she puts on people sucked in at least one of the jurors and the others are trying to do a Jodi Intervention. :floorlaugh:
 
For what it's worth, here is my take on Travis' 12-year-old-girl comment:

It was his way of letting Jodi know her voice didn't sound like her normal voice. IMO, initially it was not so much to say he liked how she sounded, but more of a why-do-you-sound-like-that? or, are-you-aware-that-you-sound-like-that? And then it just sort of blended in with the rest of the role-playing. Role-playing that they both did from time to time, most likely. Only this time she taped it, without him knowing, and she got him to say things and/or repeat things because of what she hoped to do with that recording.

All JMO.

Well said. I agree and I also think JA started her plan to kill Travis even much earlier than stealing the gun, gas cans and so forth. Who tapes their boyfriend's telephone conversations...who in their right mind would do that?? And why would they want to do that? Imho JA had some form of 'plan' ...I think even back then she had this idea that she will have Travis forever no matter what and some day she might need these tapes if things didn't work out...then she would fix him.
 
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