Victim: Amber Lynn Costello, 27, missing Sept 2010, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *Rex Heuermann charged*

[CriminalMinds]

I didn't know "CCC" was referencing a construction company as well as the stupid "college *advertiser censored* crew". I haven't spent much time reading the UG posts but I just did a quick search and sure enough... construction company references are there. And, here we are back at the construction-connection.

ALLEGEDLY, from " a few girls "(not my saying so) Carney Construction Crew

 

[inspctrgadget]

ALLEGEDLY, from " a few girls "(not my saying so) Carney Construction Crew

OK, just to be sure...

You're saying that you personally spoke with several escorts that said Joseph Brewer said that he worked for Carney Construction Crew?

 

[fred&edna]

ALLEGEDLY, from " a few girls "(not my saying so) Carney Construction Crew

That's the company name that I saw in their posts. Even though the name may be fake, I thought maybe they could still have legit ties to construction... even saw a post where the guy says he is a consultant to a construction company which I thought was interesting.

 

[inspctrgadget]

ALLEGEDLY, from " a few girls "(not my saying so) Carney Construction Crew

OK, you need to check this out.

Here's what I've got so far...

Morrie is part of the CCC. The CCC stands for Carney Construction Crew. The CCC is some kind of fictitious company / code name that members of UtopiaGuide use to meet each other offline, at strip clubs.

Is Joe Brewer a member of the CCC?

If so, this would basically crack the case wide open.

 

[fred&edna]

OK, you need to check this out.

Here's what I've got so far...

Morrie is part of the CCC. The CCC stands for Carney Construction Crew. The CCC is some kind of fictitious company / code name that members of UtopiaGuide use to meet each other offline, at strip clubs.

Is Joe Brewer a member of the CCC?

If so, this would basically crack the case wide open.

Might be helpful if we knew LE talked to the gals working at the regular CCC hang outs/where they had their "meetings"?

 

[OnTheCase27]

The word Carney is used as a term to describe a carnival worker. It's a derogatory term but not to the person being called Carney. It's derogatory to the people he/she tricks into playing the "game".

 

[ps149]

I recall reading somewhere that in addition to working as a commercial fisherman, DS worked as a bouncer at a local strip club. Not sure if that was a fact backed up by any reports or interviews.

Does anyone else recall this?

Reason why I am asking is that the drifter writes in his book about strip clubs and working in strip clubs. There was also a very heated argument on the Drifter's book's Youtube page; [video=youtube;MRu8HjdPVlQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRu8HjdPVlQ[/video]

The argument was between several people who knew the drifter and they talk about how they all worked at a particular strip club and one of them still works there now. Most of the posts were deleted before I could archive them. You can still read some of the posts that were part of the argument.

I also read in one of the discussions here how Melissa B worked as an exotic dancer and that is where she met the person who lured her into prostitution by first working special vip "parties".

IF we can verify that DS indeed worked as a strip club bouncer then this give us three different unrelated people in this case with ties to strip clubs.

 

[deedee21]

Commercial fishing or fishing excursion off of Captree near Robert Mosses Causeway?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Might be helpful if we knew LE talked to the gals working at the regular CCC hang outs/where they had their "meetings"?

I believe Shady Al's hosted a few business meetings.

ETA: And curiously enough, Lightweight ( a founding member of CCC) is referred to as "Joe" by another poster. Is this JB? Couldn't say, but it's an interesting coincidence.

 

[Seaslug44]

Commercial fishing or fishing excursion off of Captree near Robert Mosses Causeway?

I found that info over a year ago.

Google tunakiller757 as well as tunakiller777.

You will see photos at the Captree boat basin you will see him write that his occupation is a mate and sometimes a captain. You will also see how he reports how he and his friend Bob had a weekly fishing trip from Captree too.

All this took place 2007-2010.

 

[WINDSOR]

inspctrgadget,

I am impressed with your POST #250. If CCC really exists, even informally and there is linkage between, CCC, JB and some of the deceased women, this could be big news and open a new aspect to the case as you suggest.

Seaslug you speak of fishing expeditions at Captree, I am not sure but I believe CPH's son had worked as a crewman on these boats.

Do I have it correct that the Drifter worked on these boats too. The drifter knew JB quite well, as he lived with him. CPH's son worked on the boats, probably knew the drifter. Might there have been a relationship between JB, he Drifter, CPH's son, and CPH. At least there might have been some knowledge and awareness of one another.

If the CCC really existed for sexual purposes, and if JB was involved, what are the chances that the Drifter, CPH's son and CPH had no knowledge of CCC.

I hate conspiracy theories, as they almost all involve hokum. But in this case I am not talking conspiracy but relationships, personal relationships that may impact choices and decisions of individuals at times of stress.

Questions

***Did CCC actually exist as outlined in this thread?


***Did one or more of the deceased women have contact with members of CCC?


***Was JB a senior member and active in CCC?

*** Did MP know of the existence of CCC?

***Are there members of CCC willing to comment on this topic?

*** Could the LISK not necessarily be a member of CCC, but could have some awareness of its activities?

***Is LE aware of CCC and its activities? ps149 may know the answer to this with his positive relations with SCPD.



As an aside I have heard rumors that I cannot substantiate that would support the existence of a group of men, loosely related based on common interests and friendship; and JB's relationship to that group. It sounds similar to the activities described as CCC.

Remember this is a rumor and not verifiable by me. However since I heard this rumor independent of anything posted on this thread, it seems to confirm what is being implied or said on this thread. I then give the rumor more credibility.

MOO

 

[Just K]

Commack was mentioned many times amongst these men as a place that they could meet up for lunch time "desserts." I don't have the link, anymore. But I read extensively the comments of many of these guys...talking about the names of the girls, their supervisors and what services were provided. Apparently, there was a female supervisor, who sat at some sort of reception-type window, set up the available girls with the clientele and kept a running tab on the minutes. The men would look to find the girls who were willing to go out with them independently. The girls would sometimes give them their screen/working names and either a phone number where they could be reached or a website/web post with the necessary info.

Wish I had the links to these massage parlors and strip clubs where all of these business arrangement were being made...and the screen names of the men who were discussing certain girls....sadly, all that data seems to have gone the way of my fried desktop. But if anyone remembers any of the info and has the links...feel free to post them.

 

[Just K]

always wondered why no one in le ever really ran with this monthsss ago

That's the $64,000 question isn't it?

 

[ps149]

***Is LE aware of CCC and its activities? ps149 may know the answer to this with his positive relations with SCPD

Give me a few days with the holiday and such.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Commack was mentioned many times amongst these men as a place that they could meet up for lunch time "desserts." I don't have the link, anymore. But I read extensively the comments of many of these guys...talking about the names of the girls, their supervisors and what services were provided. Apparently, there was a female supervisor, who sat at some sort of reception-type window, set up the available girls with the clientele and kept a running tab on the minutes. The men would look to find the girls who were willing to go out with them independently. The girls would sometimes give them their screen/working names and either a phone number where they could be reached or a website/web post with the necessary info.

Wish I had the links to these massage parlors and strip clubs where all of these business arrangement were being made...and the screen names of the men who were discussing certain girls....sadly, all that data seems to have gone the way of my fried desktop. But if anyone remembers any of the info and has the links...feel free to post them.

Shady Al's, Tender Trap, Long Island Cafe (?)...but that's just from memory. No links. Sorry.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Also...from things inferred between UGLI posters, I gather we have a few members of LE who work for the company. Can't confirm it, obviously. I'm just throwing it out there.

 

[Just K]

Sadly, they are all probably protecting each other in order to protect themselves...a bunch of shady scum. But we have seen the comments made about ALC and to the one previous CCC member, who was ousted from membership in the group because he expressed something, about or to Morrie, that the group didn't appreciate. Then the poor sad sap had to be mindful of which clubs he turned up at and who he might run into. They threatened the ex-members and the "escorts/call girls" whatever you want to call them, too.

 

[deedee21]

D.S. said there was a realestate guy who put his foot on AC chest and then would flex his muscles. PB said he believes the killer in the contruction business. Maybe its a combo of both.

 

[SmoothOperator]

according to one of the more recent posts on UG it speaks about a dancer, Marissa missing and that LE had gotten involved??..did I read that right?

 

[LR1]

according to one of the more recent posts on UG it speaks about a dancer, Marissa missing and that LE had gotten involved??..did I read that right?

I did see where the one poster said the police went to her house looking for her but I took it as relating to some other shady activity which was mentioned by the same poster earlier. this post was back in April. Is this what you're referring to?