Victim: Amber Lynn Costello, 27, missing Sept 2010, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *Rex Heuermann charged*

[Theforeigner]

Charming, persuasive, someone with "stature"...and obviously someone with whom these girls felt very little fear. That they obviously didn't fear him gives us some MAJOR clues into his profile, imo. Think about it...if you were an escort, what would be some characteristics of a client that would cause YOU to let down YOUR guard? Here's my short list:

1. I'd seen him several times before, without incident.
2. He's someone prominent in the community. Some one well known or well connected.
3. He's non-threatening...either comes off as meek and mild mannered, or perhaps has a disability of some kind.

My theory is that the killer convinced all his victims that he would help/rescue them from their situation as prostitues/drug addicts, help them back to be repectable woman/mothers etc.

 

[Just K]

Commercial fishing or fishing excursion off of Captree near Robert Mosses Causeway?

Michael Taus of West Islip, the 24 yo who left for an online date with his pitbull and the dog dishes, was said, in news articles, to be a detailer of boats & cars who also built websites.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

My theory is that the killer convinced all his victims that he would help/rescue them from their situation as prostitues/drug addicts, help them back to be repectable woman/mothers etc.

You could be dead on with that theory foreigner, if the ministry/outreach angle pans out. I'd like to find out who is involved beside PL

 

[Just K]

You could be dead on with that theory foreigner, if the ministry/outreach angle pans out. I'd like to find out who is involved beside PL

Who is PL? Nevermind...you mean the woman at the Ministry Administration, correct?

http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/20-5953804/vision-ministries-open-arms.aspx
https://www.giveback.org/cause/31075/VISION-MINISTRIES-OPEN-ARMS.aspx
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vision-Ministries-Open-Arms/171087212935765 (Note to self: click on "likes")

 

[Just K]

JB, of Coastal Construction and loosely affiliated by phone number and family members to the Vision Ministry- Open Arms, seems to have/had family or lived in W Islip at one time or another. He would be very familiar with that area.

 

[giagreen]

Did Amber live in West Babylon?

 

[topratedsleuth]

JB..... seems to have/had family or lived in W Islip at one time or another.

That's pretty darned curious, right there. Gilgo and Oak Beach are stomping grounds for West Islip residents moreso than for any other town (and, of course, SG's JB was a West Islip resident).

 

[Just K]

JB, of Coastal Construction and loosely affiliated by phone number and family members to the Vision Ministry- Open Arms, seems to have/had family or lived in W Islip at one time or another. He would be very familiar with that area.

Actually, it was Central Islip and looks like he may have a paternal connection to West Babylon...not W Islip....sorry about that mistake.

 

[mcme]

That's pretty darned curious, right there. Gilgo and Oak Beach are stomping grounds for West Islip residents moreso than for any other town (and, of course, SG's JB was a West Islip resident).

This isn't exactly correct. Oak Beach has no real facilities, no one really goes there to hang out at the beach as there isn't one, it's a residential area. Gilgo is an actual beach, but is a Town of Babylon beach where only residents can get a pass. With no pass the daily fee is like $40. Not many people from West Islip go there.

 

[topratedsleuth]

This isn't exactly correct. Oak Beach has no real facilities, no one really goes there to hang out at the beach as there isn't one, it's a residential area. Gilgo is an actual beach, but is a Town of Babylon beach where only residents can get a pass. With no pass the daily fee is like $40. Not many people from West Islip go there.

I didn't mention anything about facilities or beaches, I was talking about who owns and rents the houses on Oak Beach. And there's more West Islip people there than from any other town, or at least so it seems to me. West Islip'ers definitely hang out at Gilgo for the waves (there was, as I recall, always more of a surf crowd from West Islip than there was from Babylon, but I don't remember anyone ever paying for a pass). And, of course, when it was going the Oak Beach Inn might as well have been West Islip South.

 

[mcme]

I didn't mention anything about facilities or beaches, I was talking about who owns and rents the houses on Oak Beach. And there's more West Islip people there than from any other town, or at least so it seems to me. West Islip'ers definitely hang out at Gilgo for the waves (there was, as I recall, always more of a surf crowd from West Islip than there was from Babylon, but I don't remember anyone ever paying for a pass). And, of course, when it was going the Oak Beach Inn might as well have been West Islip South.

Well, everyone is entitled to their own perception of a situation. However, I've lived out there for almost thirty years and surfed there and elsewhere longer, and while it may be stretching the truth to say I know pretty much every person who surfed, lives or lived at either community over that time, it isn't stretching it that far. I don't agree with your belief that there's more people living or surfing out there from West Islip than any other place.

 

[Really?]

how were dilts of AC4 and costello LISK friends?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

how were dilts of AC4 and costello LISK friends?

Where on earth did you ever hear that, Really?

 

[Really?]

let me see...I will link if I find it again.....I thought it strange as well.

well.....carpola....it was a philly.com article about the fake fb profiles......sorry

 

[Puggle]

In my opinion people need to lean hard on Ambers associates that attended "Parties". One of these girls who attended an organised party has a good suspicion who the LISK is. I don't think Amber attended one of these parties before and was therefore unprepared for the person who contacted her. She had heard of the parties before - so wasn't surprised by the offer...but on this occasion it was just the sickos plot to get her... There was NO party....this was the ruse he used to get her to leave her personal items at home as he most likely said he couldn't guarantee the safety of these items at the party. She was promised big $$$ for the night and told she shouldn't mention it to anyone as she wouldn't get invited again - hence no big $$$ in the future for such a gig. Also just my opinion but Cruz is the one who was in contact with this guy....the Killer contacted him to get to Megan...possibly Cruz knows this guy...and the reason why LISK is haunted (his drunken calls to her sister) is that Melissa wasn't his "Victim" type...yet you still killed her.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

In my opinion people need to lean hard on Ambers associates that attended "Parties". One of these girls who attended an organised party has a good suspicion who the LISK is. I don't think Amber attended one of these parties before and was therefore unprepared for the person who contacted her. She had heard of the parties before - so wasn't surprised by the offer...but on this occasion it was just the sickos plot to get her... There was NO party....this was the ruse he used to get her to leave her personal items at home as he most likely said he couldn't guarantee the safety of these items at the party. She was promised big $$$ for the night and told she shouldn't mention it to anyone as she wouldn't get invited again - hence no big $$$ in the future for such a gig. Also just my opinion but Cruz is the one who was in contact with this guy....the Killer contacted him to get to Megan...possibly Cruz knows this guy...and the reason why LISK is haunted (his drunken calls to her sister) is that Melissa wasn't his "Victim" type...yet you still killed her.

BBM

Where does this info come from, Puggle? Can you provide us with a link?

 

[LISleuth]

In my opinion people need to lean hard on Ambers associates that attended "Parties". One of these girls who attended an organised party has a good suspicion who the LISK is. I don't think Amber attended one of these parties before and was therefore unprepared for the person who contacted her. She had heard of the parties before - so wasn't surprised by the offer...but on this occasion it was just the sickos plot to get her... There was NO party....this was the ruse he used to get her to leave her personal items at home as he most likely said he couldn't guarantee the safety of these items at the party. She was promised big $$$ for the night and told she shouldn't mention it to anyone as she wouldn't get invited again - hence no big $$$ in the future for such a gig. Also just my opinion but Cruz is the one who was in contact with this guy....the Killer contacted him to get to Megan...possibly Cruz knows this guy...and the reason why LISK is haunted (his drunken calls to her sister) is that Melissa wasn't his "Victim" type...yet you still killed her.

The unsubstantiated stories that keep popping up about parties & these girls being told to not bring cell phones & ID's I think implies that these girls were stupid. All things point to the contrary. Working girls as a rule are always on their guard knowing they are in a risky business. If a client made a request such as this, I imagine that would have raised a red flag & none of the girls would have obliged the request. SG's ID & phone were found in the vicinity of where she went missing. She used her phone to make calls on that fateful night.

IMO the girls may have encountered this person more times than once, gained trust, felt secure with a charming guy who they may have felt was trustworthy but not enough to leave phones & ID's at home, the only thing that assured them some modicum of safety. I prefer to give the girls much more credit than thinking they were not thinking.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

In my opinion people need to lean hard on Ambers associates that attended "Parties". One of these girls who attended an organised party has a good suspicion who the LISK is. I don't think Amber attended one of these parties before and was therefore unprepared for the person who contacted her. She had heard of the parties before - so wasn't surprised by the offer...but on this occasion it was just the sickos plot to get her... There was NO party....this was the ruse he used to get her to leave her personal items at home as he most likely said he couldn't guarantee the safety of these items at the party. She was promised big $$$ for the night and told she shouldn't mention it to anyone as she wouldn't get invited again - hence no big $$$ in the future for such a gig. Also just my opinion but Cruz is the one who was in contact with this guy....the Killer contacted him to get to Megan...possibly Cruz knows this guy...and the reason why LISK is haunted (his drunken calls to her sister) is that Melissa wasn't his "Victim" type...yet you still killed her.

Let's hear more about the girl who has a good suspicion who the LISK is? Is this poi the OB resident HF? From what I remember, Amber didn't have a phone and was using Dave Schallers.....?

 

[LISleuth]

.... Is this poi the OB resident HF? From what I remember, Amber didn't have a phone and was using Dave Schallers.....?

Who is HF?

Amber was using DS phone according to him. Some are quick to say that SG was out of her mind on drugs yet DS, a known drug user is supposed to be credible? So he says she left it behind is supposed to mean she didn't have a phone that he may not have known she had? Lot of theories that don't add up in my opinion.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

I never said i believed him...only relating what he said. He also said she deleted the number the john called from before him his phone back.