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Inspector, that link was highly offensive.

I sent her a pm. I'm sure she didn't realize. She'll have to simply summarize what was said there, and state why she can't post the link.

In the meantime, if everyone would avoid quoting that post, it will help create less mess to clean up. Thanks.
 
Oops, sorry about the image there. I've disabled the automatic image popup in my browser and it didn't show up for me. My bad. I'll ask the mod to remove the link, since I'm locked from editing it.
 
The point here is not that the links are offensive but that these men are offensive. They denigrate all women. They are crude, disturbing and social miscreants. They openly posts their beliefs, their illegal activities and the names addresses and phone numbers of the women they malign or supposedly admire. They are a bunch of old, nasty, sickf^*ks and they are proud of it...at least among and within their "circle" of jerks and social misfits. IMO, of course.
 
The worlds a twisted place.

I do not think it is out of the realm that one of these sick bastards takes things to the extreme edge and gets off on murder.
 
The point here is not that the links are offensive but that these men are offensive. They denigrate all women. They are crude, disturbing and social miscreants. They openly posts their beliefs, their illegal activities and the names addresses and phone numbers of the women they malign or supposedly admire. They are a bunch of old, nasty, and they are proud of it...at least among and within their "circle" of jerks and social misfits. IMO, of course.

Hi. I am in no way supportive of their lifestyle however I do think their world that looks so sick and nasty is very much misunderstood and not much different that the society in which we live. Many of the posters on that website are women (or as they call themselves "providers") who are not much different than any of the GB4 or SG were when they were alive.

If we had one of these providers here to interview we might hear an argument that defends their world. We might hear that unlike in the real world, their world is mostly about giving and receiving pleasure (not pain). We might hear that the men that are viewed as a circle of jerks, misfits and old nasty sickf^*ks are actually compasionite, gentle and respectful to the women in their world.

Just remember, the ultimate goal and common denominator of each of those men is to receive physical pleasure from their providers on a repeat basis. If they were nasty, physically abusive or down-right crude then for the most part they would never be invited into those motel rooms and they most certainly would not become "regulars" for those providers.

Naturally, there are always exceptions and there are always going to be those individuals who seek to impose pain on others.

I ask you, how does this differ from the real world?

An argument can be made that in the real world, many men pay and sacrifice for the sex they receive from their partners too. One big difference is that in the real world their is no objective or ultimate goal as there is in their world.

I know this sounds like I am defending them. Please do not take it that way (for some reason whenever I attempt to provide an open-minded view on a topic that opposes the opinon of the general public I am labeled as having made up my mind for the opposing view). All I am doing is pointing out that their world is more centered around giving/receiving pleasure than the real world is. Serial killer cases being the exception, you can find a much higher rate of violence and murder in other sectors of the population than you will find among the world of "hobbyists" who post on the internet sex forums. And when we accept the realization that rarely (if ever) a known serial killer who targeted prostitutes has ever posted on one of those forums as one of their regular hobbyists then we realize that as sick and twisted as these hobbyists sound, it is unlikely that one of them is seeking anything other than giving/receiving physical pleasure and enjoying the company of the women they seek to hire.

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Ps.

Apparently you and I have been reading different threads.
There was no love and mutual respect expressed on the threads I plowed through.
 
Ps.

Apparently you and I have been reading different threads.
There was no love and mutual respect expressed on the threads I plowed through.

If you consider this "board society" as a sub-culture in a mathematical sense, no respect or love is needed, just a symbiotic lifestyle, some basic cultural common grounds and a common language base.
 
We're talking about product, here. Someone sells it, someone buys it. Simple as that. It's a business, not a relationship or a mutual admiration society. And anyone who says that humilation, degradation, and violence occur rarely in this business is, quite frankly, full of spit.

IMHO, of course.
 
If you consider this "board society" as a sub-culture in a mathematical sense, no respect or love is needed, just a symbiotic lifestyle, some basic cultural common grounds and a common language base.

Thanks PB, but I was referring to PS's comments about those "hobbyists' sites, not this one. Though I have learned quite a lot from reading both sites. Here, I've learned a lot about serial killers. ON those "hobbyists" sites I've read how those hobbyists surruptiously video tape their "dates" in bed by using apps on their ipods and cellphones, thus I was able to obtain proof of my husband snoring incessantly and stealing the covers. Something he had adamantly denied until....

Also, on those "hobbyist" sites, I read how men can surf on their computers anonymously so if their wives ever have that gut feeling that their husband is a filthy cad, they won't find proof on their computer. This has definitely assisted me in surfing for clothes and shoes without leaving any evidence.
Learn something new every day I say.
 
OH! Also, I will not be so shocked when I walk into my local Starbucks or Barnes and Noble for a skinny latte and see a very pretty young woman sitting at a table flirting with a fat, unattractive middle-aged man who could use a bath and a shave and wonder to myself, "what the hell is She doing with HIM?"
It's just business.
 
Point is that mathematically, if you take the sum of all acts of violence, you are not going to find even 1% committed by someone who is a "career hobbyist" posting on any of those sex forum websites.

It's the silent ones who don't ever post who you have to worry about.

Serial killers don't normally like to leave such easy electronic trails that lead directly to their identity.
 
Point is that mathematically, if you take the sum of all acts of violence, you are not going to find even 1% committed by someone who is a "career hobbyist" posting on any of those sex forum websites.

It's the silent ones who don't ever post who you have to worry about.

Serial killers don't normally like to leave such easy electronic trails that lead directly to their identity.

But they do, apparently, like to use a victim's cellphone to taunt her little sister? :waitasec:
 
Even if a few of those men are givers and receivers, they are also liars and connivers who openly break the law and could care less about STDs or how these women are treated by their employers. Because most of these women that they talk about...the strippers, the escorts the MP workers...they do work for someone who treats them like product.

I'm certain that the majority of these providers would rather not be the caboose when the men "run a train" on them. Just my opinion but I would be willing to bet that the women are not really enjoying these men. They are tolerating the ones who are the cream of a rotten crop. Just read ten pages of the UG and LIE sites and there will be no denying that these particular members are not good decent guys out to give these women anything of real value. Now, I do agree that in the so-called real world, there are equally as many dysfunctional pairings and many are similar to these arrangements but that doesn't necessarily make those folks any less deviant than the men whose pages of comments we have been discussing. All my opinion.

Just to Add: I'd also be willing to bet that the majority of their wives, Gfs, sig others, and children might have similar opinions if they were given the opportunity to know what these men do with their seemingly limitless free time.
 
Point is that mathematically, if you take the sum of all acts of violence, you are not going to find even 1% committed by someone who is a "career hobbyist" posting on any of those sex forum websites.

It's the silent ones who don't ever post who you have to worry about.

Serial killers don't normally like to leave such easy electronic trails that lead directly to their identity.

And now I see Magnotta, Rader, Berkowitz and some other serial killers of the past make big eyes at you and cuss. Now you say!
 
Oops, sorry about the image there. I've disabled the automatic image popup in my browser and it didn't show up for me. My bad. I'll ask the mod to remove the link, since I'm locked from editing it.

Im sure you didnt realize that was there. That was my initial reaction.
 
The worlds a twisted place.

I do not think it is out of the realm that one of these sick bastards takes things to the extreme edge and gets off on murder.

Individuals spend time judging women who were brutally murdered instead of the serial killer.
 
I would like to see female LE officers bring this killer in. They should be 5' tall and 100 pounds. If he tries to cover his face throw a burlap bag over his head.
 

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