Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #2

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Stripehaven said:
O/T but Mountlake Terrace has had at least one other high-profile murder:
https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2015/02/25/psycho-for-love-indle-king-jr-killed-his-russian-mail-order-bride-anastasia-solovieva/

I first heard of this a few years ago on Investigation Discovery. Probably on "Fatal Vows." I was riveted to realize they were talking about MLT and then even more so when I realized I recognized where the house was - not far from me. I saw it being refurbished not long ago and wondered if the owners had any idea. HORRIBLE.

ETA: On topic: I can't make the suicide theory fit with where she ended up in a culvert, a fair distance from her car. Maybe she did walk somewhere to do the deed but the culvert seems crazy. There are probably 50 secluded/wooded/brushy spots between her car and the culvert, and many more south and west of the transit center/I-5. Maybe she wandered around for awhile before taking action and ended up NEAR the culvert/creek/grassy area/ whatever. But IN the culvert? I dunno. Not sure the creek was high enough to wash her in, if she had entered upstream. Maybe.
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The only reason I can see for positioning herself to be found in a culvert would be to try to make it look like she was left there by an abductor/murderer so as not to give away that she had committed suicide (perhaps so her husband would be able to collect insurance).

I have no idea what to think about this. It does "seem" like they might be leaning to suicide (or why bring up the self-inflicted cuts?)

But my mind is open to any scenario!


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steelman said:
During one of the press conferences given by Cheryl's mother, sister, and niece, it was stated that her husband was too grief stricken to speak to the media. This was before she had been found.

Her husband didn't make any media appearances at all that I am aware of.

Her husband didn't help search for her.

Her husband located her car that day, and has been out of sight ever since.

If you take that information coupled with my comment up there, it appears to me that maybe he knew very early on that Cheryl had done something drastic. Only he would know what had gone on between them and what was said between them.
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Somewhere I saw reference to her husband being out in the community passing out fliers. Will see if I can find where and provide a link.

Edit: Can't find a link....so consider it rumor....sorry.
 
I think in order to believe the suicide, you have to believe:

She got dressed for work and purposely left her badge so she has an excuse? She must bring the means to commit suicide, too.

Drove to where she would typically meet her carpool. (She could have texted from anywhere, she didn't need to go to the transit center)

Text her carpooler that she forgot her badge, that it would take her 10 minutes to get it, and that she may want a ride home with them after work. (she could have just texted that she was sick and wouldn't be at work that day)

Walked in the rain for a few miles and end up in a culvert under the road without anyone seeing her. To get to the side of the road she was found on, she would have had to cross traffic at 8:30 in the morning?

If she was going to commit suicide, why would she make it a point to leave her car at the transit center? Why would she text that she will likely want to carpool home? Why didn't anyone see her walking?

I don't think its a suicide.
 
Seatowner said:
It appears CD's husband is active on SM. He posted a comment on a FB page where the link was shared about her Celebration of Life.


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Is it in FB page Celebrating Cheryl DeBoer?
 
darring21 said:
I think in order to believe the suicide, you have to believe:

She got dressed for work and purposely left her badge so she has an excuse? She must bring the means to commit suicide, too.

Drove to where she would typically meet her carpool. (She could have texted from anywhere, she didn't need to go to the transit center)

Text her carpooler that she forgot her badge, that it would take her 10 minutes to get it, and that she may want a ride home with them after work. (she could have just texted that she was sick and wouldn't be at work that day)

Walked in the rain for a few miles and end up in a culvert under the road without anyone seeing her. To get to the side of the road she was found on, she would have had to cross traffic at 8:30 in the morning?

If she was going to commit suicide, why would she make it a point to leave her car at the transit center? Why would she text that she will likely want to carpool home? Why didn't anyone see her walking?

I don't think its a suicide.
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I don't think the points you make are necessarily showing that suicide is unlikely. I have read cases here where people in the middle of work, in the middle of planning something, in the middle of a seemingly busy and happy life and normal day, broke away and went to a nearby wood or similar and killed themselves. Suicide often has no outward signs, on the contrary, they act completely normal. It all happens on the inside.

That said I don't believe she committed suicide either, mainly because I don't think she would have gone to a culvert to leave this world. It's not private enough. Someone could have seen her and come over to help. People who want to die will avoid others, not go to a busy street and lie down next to it.
 
No. Unfortunately it was a group that he is a member of that shared their sons announcement regarding the Celebration of Life.




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Why be so tight lipped about a suicide?


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1&2&3 said:
I am totally confused on this point. Would someone clear it up for me please, TIA.

Is the location where Cheryl's car was located, the usual everyday parking spot she used? She always parked in the remote area rather than the main lot?
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I've asked this a couple of times and there is never an answer. As far as I know, neither the police, the family, or members of her carpool have said if she would normally park by the library or not.
 
I don't think it's a suicide either.

If you believe she killed herself because she's horribly distraught or depressed due to a conflict or revelation about her husband (betrayal/divorce/whatever), yet you also think she goes to great lengths to leave herself in a culvert so it doesn't look like suicide and he can collect her insurance... how can those 2 things both be true? She appeared to be a very nice, sweet, kind person - but that's asking a lot of her.

(And even if you think she might have been distraught over something else - I still can't see suicide.)

I don't know if we ever learned where she normally parked. I assumed she normally went to the transit center parking lot to meet her carpool friends, but she didn't make it there that day because she realized she had to head home and get her badge. That is my assumption only though.

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Personally, I'd like to rule out the suicide theory all together. My intent on posting the earlier comment about this being a suicide was simply an effort to try and explain how and why she may have been driven to do something like that. If her and her husband were getting along fine, and there weren't any problems at home, then the entire theory is probably moot.

Only her husband would know if they had argued or fought recently. Only her husband would know if there was something more sinister in their relationship. Only her husband would know her state-of-mind the morning she left home. Only her husband would know what their weekend was like prior to this. The rest of us are completely in the dark in regards to that......and trying to play catch-up.

Unfortunately for all of us, he isn't talking, and he hasn't talked since the day she vanished. That includes an on-camera plea for the person that took his wife to bring her back, or don't hurt her, or whatever. God knows the news media would be more than happy to let him say anything he wanted to say on camera. What he knows or doesn't know about Cheryl's state of mind that morning appears to be a complete secret. The cops themselves may not know if there were any problems between them. There might not have been any problems between them. The only people that did get on camera and talk about her weren't around her the morning she left home.

The entire problem with the suicide theory has now been confirmed by the locals. The most likely way she could have worked her way from the Park-and-Ride to that culvert would have been to walk it. Nobody reported seeing her walking that day. I scaled it a few minutes ago on the map, and it measured 1.6 miles from the overflow parking to the culvert. That's a long way to walk on a Monday morning while commuters are zipping by......and yet no one reports seeing you do it. She wasn't seen on video on a bus, and she didn't call a taxi. No one to my knowledge has reported picking her up or dropping her off that day.

I find it almost impossible to believe that someone as kind, sweet, caring and thoughtful as she has been described would do something like that to her surviving son, grandchild, and co-workers. It doesn't fit.

map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zAAmDUXJe_aE.knlZzA2tpxDE&usp=sharing
 
rotary_dial said:
Exploring a suicide angle (which I really don't believe is the case here), do we know if her work role at Fred Hutch was always as a Systems Analyst? Would that position enable her any access to financial information, or the ability to manipulate it?
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Her job involved managing and processing laboratory data. She didn't have access to any financial data.
 
steelman said:
Personally, I'd like to rule out the suicide theory all together. My intent on posting the earlier comment about this being a suicide was simply an effort to try and explain how and why she may have been driven to do something like that. If her and her husband were getting along fine, and there weren't any problems at home, then the entire theory is probably moot.

Only her husband would know if they had argued or fought recently. Only her husband would know if there was something more sinister in their relationship. Only her husband would know her state-of-mind the morning she left home. Only her husband would know what their weekend was like prior to this. The rest of us are completely in the dark in regards to that......and trying to play catch-up.

Unfortunately for all of us, he isn't talking, and he hasn't talked since the day she vanished. That includes an on-camera plea for the person that took his wife to bring her back, or don't hurt her, or whatever. God knows the news media would be more than happy to let him say anything he wanted to say on camera. What he knows or doesn't know about Cheryl's state of mind that morning appears to be a complete secret. The cops themselves may not know if there were any problems between them. There might not have been any problems between them. The only people that did get on camera and talk about her weren't around her the morning she left home.

The entire problem with the suicide theory has now been confirmed by the locals. The most likely way she could have worked her way from the Park-and-Ride to that culvert would have been to walk it. Nobody reported seeing her walking that day. I scaled it a few minutes ago on the map, and it measured 1.6 miles from the overflow parking to the culvert. That's a long way to walk on a Monday morning while commuters are zipping by......and yet no one reports seeing you do it. She wasn't seen on video on a bus, and she didn't call a taxi. No one to my knowledge has reported picking her up or dropping her off that day.

I find it almost impossible to believe that someone as kind, sweet, caring and thoughtful as she has been described would do something like that to her surviving son, grandchild, and co-workers. It doesn't fit.

map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zAAmDUXJe_aE.knlZzA2tpxDE&usp=sharing
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To her surviving son, grandchild, co-workers... and husband(oh dear)...
 
So after all these days of going around with this we come down to the only plausible explanation is: some kind of attack happened while Cheryl was still parked at the library or possibly on the path. Does that sound about right?

ETA: no, it wouldn't be the path. She wouldn't have left her car. She was heading back home.
 
Han said:
So after all these days of going around with this we come down to the only plausible explanation is: some kind of attack happened while Cheryl was still parked at the library or possibly on the path. Does that sound about right?
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Nope. Whatever it was doesn't sound right. I think the BADGE is the key word that will answer all the questions.
 
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