Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #7

[Terrace12]

I am not suggesting tape should not have been on the east side. Tape was definitely a necessity !

I am suggesting it should have *also* been on the west side.

Wasn't Cheryl found on the west side?

Perhaps I am wrong.

*If* Cheryl was found on the west, it should have been taped off longer than one night during the recovery (edited to reword).


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I found it very odd myself. Where I saw the flowers (in the photos) I just assumed it was on the other side because it was
taped off but knowing now I would have thought they would have taped both sides! IMO

 

[Mollyandme]

Planting evidence to make people think it was suicide. The actual evidence left has left a bunch of people thinking it is homicide

I agree, I'm still on the fence and the biggest thing I'm having trouble getting past is the common logical fallacy of "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" which I remember from one of my college classes for some reason. Basically, it means that one makes an error in reasoning when we assume everything found at a crime scene and in relation to the crime must be somehow related.

Between the forgotten badge, the phone powering off, Cheryl's cuts on her fingers that are allegedly self inflicted according to the ME, the animal blood in the car, the cause(s) of death, and the plastic bag over her head along with freshwater drowning, the razor found on Cheryl, her glasses found, but her phone and wallet missing, it's just Difficult for me to wrap my head around how all of those things are unrelated and that's just from what has been reported by the media.

 

[Treelights]

Instead of thinking that Cheryl would 'plant' evidence in order to make her suicide appear as it was a homicide, I really believe this was a homicide where the evidence was 'planted' to appear it was a suicide!

If this is true, then to me, it was so personal against Cheryl that they wanted to make sure that it looked like Cheryl killed herself, versus casting suspicions on anyone else.
Would a random killer go to this trouble? I am thinking this person wanted to create much confusion.
IMOO.

 

[Terrace12]

IMO her body was found right where that tent was!

Her body was found on the West side. Not the tent side from what I understand.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

What points to me that this was a murder is Cheryl parked her car about 7:02 to text her carpool buddy. At 8:00, the car that parked behind her said her car was already there.

So, at that busy time of the morning, almost one hour went by without a car parking behind her! Very unusual, also very convenient for a perp to snatch her easily. Doesn't appear the area Cheryl parked in was a sought after parking place.

Respectfully snipped by me for brevity.

I think that Cheryl parked where she did either:

1. For the sole purpose of texting her carpool buddy. She realized that she didn't have her badge with her soon after leaving home, pulled over so she could text her carpool buddy, intending to drive back home, retrieve her badge, drive back and park at the P&R itself or somewhere nearby. However, something went wrong after she sent her last text.

or

2. So that she would not be seen by her carpool buddy, yet at the same time to leave evidence of her actually having been in the same area where her car would actually be found (by way of pinging, since her phone was still powered on at this point).

I do not believe it has ever been reported exactly where Cheryl was supposed to meet her carpool buddy. But if it was going to be inside the P&R, it makes sense that she parked where she did: There would be little chance of her carpool buddy witnessing Cheryl getting out of her vehicle. She would have avoided parking inside the P&R in order evade the security cameras, too, I think.

Like seemingly every other aspect of this case, there is more than one plausible theory or explanation here, IMO.

 

[Terrace12]

I do not feel a random person did this. I think it was someone very close to her. IMO

 

[MU42M]

I'm now leaning to suicide with a goal of it not being obvious, her not being found by family, and her not implicating her husband.


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[Treelights]

I'm now leaning to suicide with a goal of it not being obvious, her not being found by family, and her not implicating her husband.


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What is odd to me is that she was found not too far away from where she lived. She lived north of where she was found. If her family was to search, it would make sense for them to travel south.
IMOO.

 

[Stripehaven]

I'm now leaning to suicide with a goal of it not being obvious, her not being found by family, and her not implicating her husband.


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But if you don't want to implicate someone, why not just leave a note?

 

[Treelights]

But if you don't want to implicate someone, why not just leave a note?

Unless leaving a note would be admitting to suicide.
With all that is presented, if it was suicide, she didn't want it to look like it.
Maybe she wanted to spare her family?
Thing is, this is big news, on MSM and a thread on WS, too. I wonder if she even knew that
people would be This Interested, (if she did commit suicide)?

IMOO.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

What is odd to me is that she was found not too far away from where she lived. She lived north of where she was found. If her family was to search, it would make sense for them to travel south.
IMOO.

In the suicide scenario, I think that of the utmost importance in planning all of it for Cheryl would have been to absolutely make sure that her family would be protected from the shame -whether real or imagined- of suicide, even more so than making sure that her family would not be the ones to find her.

 

[cluciano63]

I just do not this as a murder in any way. Nothing about the circumstances look like a murder to me. Jmo

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Respectfully snipped by me for brevity.

I think that Cheryl parked where she did either:

1. For the sole purpose of texting her carpool buddy. She realized that she didn't have her badge with her soon after leaving home, pulled over so she could text her carpool buddy, intending to drive back home, retrieve her badge, drive back and park at the P&R itself or somewhere nearby. However, something went wrong after she sent her last text.

or

2. So that she would not be seen by her carpool buddy, yet at the same time to leave evidence of her actually having been in the same area where her car would actually be found (by way of pinging, since her phone was still powered on at this point).

I do not believe it has ever been reported exactly where Cheryl was supposed to meet her carpool buddy[/B]. But if it was going to be inside the P&R, it makes sense that she parked where she did: There would be little chance of her carpool buddy witnessing Cheryl getting out of her vehicle. She would have avoided parking inside the P&R in order evade the security cameras, too, I think.

Like seemingly every other aspect of this case, there is more than one plausible theory or explanation here, IMO.

thank you! That's what I've always wondered....where were they supposed to meet up?

 

[DistantReader]

I would like to know why the cat breeder took the kitty back just days after Cheryl was found. Wasn't it a purchase? I saw she posted here (unverified) and I am hoping she can answer.

 

[azure]

I just do not this as a murder in any way. Nothing about the circumstances look like a murder to me. Jmo

I agree. Hopefully they'll find either electronic evidence of planning or something in the toxicology report so that the public can be sure. I know it will be difficult for the family to accept, if so. My thoughts are with her family and friends as this process moves slowly on.

 

[yupikgirl]

I would like to know why the cat breeder took the kitty back just days after Cheryl was found. Wasn't it a purchase? I saw she posted here (unverified) and I am hoping she can answer.

I believe she said the cat was in some distress with all the people coming and going at the house following the disappearance.

Hopefully she will correct me if I've remembered incorrectly.

 

[DistantReader]

Also, she would not need to park this far away. That P&R should have had plenty of spots left at 7AM. Maybe she always parked out of the P&R lot on purpose? I doubt it. I have assumed she usually met her carpool in the lot like most commuters do.
Not up some side street.

 

[ANZAC]

Can you tell me what you are referring to as the "actual evidence?"

Bag, razor blade, animal blood, body, text msg/phone forensics, etc.

 

[Hdk]

I would like to know why the cat breeder took the kitty back just days after Cheryl was found. Wasn't it a purchase? I saw she posted here (unverified) and I am hoping she can answer.

She explained why in a previous thread. There were a lot of people in and out of the house and the cat was struggling a bit before CD went missing. So, she took the cat back to provide a peaceful environment for it.

I am unsure if MD has the cat back or if the cat is still with her- but his life has turned upside down. I am not sure right now is the best time for him to be giving some TLC to a kitty.

 

[Native Pride]

I would like to know why the cat breeder took the kitty back just days after Cheryl was found. Wasn't it a purchase? I saw she posted here (unverified) and I am hoping she can answer.

Quote Originally Posted by Justiceforcheryl View Post
Honestly I can't remember if it was Wednesday or Thursday but yes she was still missing. I picked up the cat because he is a shyer and sensitive cat trying to acclimate to what was a very calm and quiet home. The stress of all of the people in and out was too stressful they felt.
I knew from the beginning something was very very wrong. Like I said, she waited months for this cat because she didn't want to leave him alone while they were gone.
They still have the boy they got from me about 8 years ago. He is a stunning boy that I told them was so shy that they may never touch him. They got him as a buddy for the first cat. The first night she sent me pictures of him snuggled in bed with them. That's the type of people they were.
The police were here and I showed them the raw food and how it can leak. However they picked him and the raw food up in a different car.