Found Deceased WA - Jenise Wright, 6, Bremerton, 2 Aug 2014 - #6 *Arrest*

[gitana1]

You do not have to hire an attorney for your child whether you have the money or not. I know this from experience.

That's not the case in California:
[SUP]11[/SUP] California Welfare & Institutions Code Section 903.1 provides: "(a) The father, mother, spouse, or other person liable for the support of a minor, the estate of that person, and the estate of the minor, shall be liable for the cost to the county or the court, whichever entity incurred the expenses, of legal services rendered to the minor by an attorney pursuant to an order of the juvenile court. The father, mother, spouse, or other person liable for the support of a minor and the estate of that person shall also be liable for any cost to the county or the court of legal services rendered directly to the father, mother, or spouse, of the minor or any other person liable for the support of the minor, in a dependency proceeding by an attorney appointed pursuant to an order of the juvenile court. The liability of those persons (in this article called relatives) and estates shall be a joint and several liability. (b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), the father, mother, spouse, or other person liable for the support of the minor, the estate of that person, or the estate of the minor, shall not be liable for the costs of any of the legal services provided to any person described in this section if a petition to declare the minor a dependent child of the court pursuant to Section 300 is dismissed at or before the jurisdictional hearing. (c) Fees received pursuant to this section shall be transmitted to the Administrative Office of the Courts in the same manner as prescribed in Section 68085.1 of the Government Code. The Administrative Office of the Courts shall deposit the fees received pursuant to this section into the Trial Court Trust Fund." http://www.shouselaw.com/rights-parents-minors.html

In many states, if the parents have the ability to pay, they are responsible for their child's legal expenses.

 

[Sassygerl]

totally O/T but a great break is to check out the Super Moon tonight!!!!!

 

[1&2&3]

If it is discovered JW was murdered on Saturday night, is it possible her parents will be charged with child neglect being they reported she was home in bed?

 

[human]

I cannot understand the discussion of "legitimate" rape re adult women. It is so absurd it defies logic.

But to discuss it re a 6 year old girl? I am beyond flabbergasted

 

[CluelessWonder]

I suspect that the perp was not prone to showing a lot of emotion.

 

[Sassygerl]

I was just speaking from experience in the state I live This little sweetie pie wasn't murdered in Cali anyway, but I understand what you're saying. Sometimes parents have to use tough love and NOT hire an atty for their child.

ETA: I forgot to reply with quote. Sorry. I was replying to Gitana

 

[gitana1]

Since the family lives in a trailer park, it seems unlikely they have a mass of wealth stashed somewhere - enough to pay for a murder trial lawyer. He'll be 18 before any legal bills mount up - surely the parents aren't required to pay for a lawyer for their adult son?

I don't know the answer to that. They are responsible, if they have the ability to pay, for legal fees associated with the crime they committed as juveniles, but I don;t know if that includes fees incurred once they turn 18. I will ask my law partner. Good question.

And yeah, I agree. These folks likely don't have oodles of cash laying about.

 

[matou]

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"I don't even know how to feel." Hearing from family who says they know suspect in #JeniseWright murder #LiveOnKOMO 5 pic.twitter.com/0lnry7DOij

 

[SCHMAE]

They also sleuthed and posted his criminal activity which is absolutely against TOS. He was never named as a suspect or person of interest by LE.

Not sure if it's against TOS since many mods saw those posts and they were not removed. But I cannot be sure.

 

[necco]

A teen imo easily believes they are smarter than everyone else and will never get caught.
There is no way around DNA, but to a teen, I am sure he had some wild idea in his head to explain it away... :dunno: Maybe he thought the mud would make his dna disappear in a day or two?

All posts are MOO

There is also the fact that the prefrontal cortex does not fully develop until a person is about 25. That's the decision making and part of the brain and the part that moderates social behavior. Basically, teenagers do dumb things because their brains aren't finished yet. This is why so many terrorist and gang recruits are so young and why things like mailbox baseball and skitching seem like awesome ideas to teens.

 

[human]

Long but good article on psychopaths.

Has he shown signs of it, I wonder?

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm

 

[Snoop Sister]

I cannot understand the discussion of "legitimate" rape re adult women. It is so absurd it defies logic.

But to discuss it re a 6 year old girl? I am beyond flabbergasted

Me too. I promised myself not to post in this forum again, but with the appalling statements related to a six year old baby, set me off again.

 

[Clockwatcher84]

I know! It reminds me of recent political discussions by politicians that claim there are "degrees" of rape! GRRRR!!!

I think the OP was trying to say that maybe the suspect is not a serial rapist, i.e. has not done this before. I did not get the idea that he/she was trying to downplay the crime or its brutal nature. IMOO

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Then why couldnt they identify her body and they still do not have cause of death? I feel this was violent in every sense of the word.

In which news item or press release was it commented that LE could not identify the body?

And note: Body ID typically is not 'official' until verified by visual id by someone qualified to ID (family member, etc.) or by other necessary means (photo, dental, tats, DNA, etc.)

 

[Snoop Sister]

There is also the fact that the prefrontal cortex does not fully develop until a person is about 25. That's the decision making and part of the brain and the part that moderates social behavior. Basically, teenagers do dumb things because their brains aren't finished yet. This is why so many terrorist and gang recruits are so young and why things like mailbox baseball and skitching seem like awesome ideas to teens.

Frontal cortex and when it finishes developing has grey areas and is controversial in my opinion. Links please to back your statements. And, I would prefer peer reviewed studies/articles. Thanks

 

[katydid23]

They also sleuthed and posted his criminal activity which is absolutely against TOS. He was never named as a suspect or person of interest by LE.

But it was reported in MSM. So it was not against TOS

 

[hambirg]

Im wondering if there is going to be a plea deal. It sounds like LE has DNA...open and shut. Anyone think they will let him plead guilty to 2d degree murder as a juvenile?

With DNA evidence, and it sounds like a possible confession. . .they aren't going to offer him a plea. MOO

 

[Snoop Sister]

I saw it differently. The perp may not be a serial rapist yet, this may be his first time-but I got the impression that therefore the OP was trying to say that because he was an opportunist, maybe didn't kidnap her, that this wasn't rape. A boys will be boys defense- he was just being a hormonal teenager acting on his urges.

That was my read on it too.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Not Guilty was OJ's criminal verdict. The civil verdict was Guilty of violating their civil rights. The burden of proof is much lower in civil court, plus they had the pictures of the Bruno Magli shoes, which I don't think made it into the criminal trial.

LinasK, I noticed in the last thread you said Westfield murdered little Daniele Van Dam because her mother had rebuked his advances at a bar. I kept up with that case or I thought I did and I have never heard that was the motive. Do you have a link where that was brought into the trial as the motive?

I really don't think revenge makes someone a pedophile who is capable of raping a young child. They have to have those tendencies to begin with and wasn't it known that he had gone into the room of his underage niece and sexually touched her inappropriately when she was in bed before he kidnapped DVD? And didn't he have child *advertiser censored* on his computer? Imo, Westerfield was a closet pedophile until he ventured out of his comfort zone and targeted Daniele.

I read that he targeted DVD because she had come to his door selling girl scout cookies right before he kidnapped, raped, and murdered her.

TIA

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Not sure if it's against TOS since many mods saw those posts and they were not removed. But I cannot be sure.

It was reported in MSM. Once there it is public and good info.

THe point is up until yesterday was a quote from the investigators saying.. Paraphrasing- we have nothing, so we have to go back to the family, friends and neighbors... -

So that led us all to believe the family was still being considered in the pool of suspects.

I think the Mods here do a great job of keeping us inline. As they clarified what we could and could not talk about, we adapted.