I would like to see him, too, even if we never learn his name. I would like to see him smiling.
I find it interesting that the family would have fingerprints but not the police, because if law enforcement had it, wouldn't it have been in AFIS? Unless it was one of those child fingerprint kits or his family had something of his with fingerprints on it? So what we do is his age and where he was from. I'm fine with that.
I find it interesting that the family would have fingerprints but not the police, because if law enforcement had it, wouldn't it have been in AFIS? Unless it was one of those child fingerprint kits or his family had something of his with fingerprints on it? So what we do is his age and where he was from. I'm fine with that.
He was from California. I don't know how long they have been doing it but I think I have read CA requires a thumb print when you get a driver's license.
I can't believe he's been identified. This is the case that brought me to Websleuths!Press release is out!
Even if that technology was being used in 2001, wouldn’t that mean his prints were in AFIS?
Eta - maybe not:
Fingerprints, including thumbprint, are collected by DMV for added security to your driver license information and protected under Veh. Code 1808.5 and the California Supreme Court’s decision in Perkey v. DMV (1986) 42 Cal.3d 185. Your fingerprints are not shared outside of the department, unless authorized by law.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/dl/how_info_shared
I was going to say I'm not sure. I searched and found this article stating they have been required since 1982: http://articles.latimes.com/1986-07-25/news/mn-272_1_fingerprint-data
I may be misinterpreting this but it sounds like the court ruled in 1986 that the DMV could not pass the fingerprints on to other government agencies. That would mean they could have had his fingerprints on file with the DMV but not in a criminal database. It sounds like they can only be pulled by a coroner to compare if they have your body and your name as a possible ID. But I might have that wrong, I'm not sure. Hopefully our California residents on the board can clarify.
Lyle's family had a set of his fingerprints that were taken in grade school, as part of a children's identification program. The Sheriff's Department compared those prints with the post mortem prints I took in 2001, and made a positive identification.
I can't believe he's been identified. This is the case that brought me to Websleuths!
Lyle's family had a set of his fingerprints that were taken in grade school, as part of a children's identification program. The Sheriff's Department compared those prints with the post mortem prints I took in 2001, and made a positive identification.
Lyle's family had a set of his fingerprints that were taken in grade school, as part of a children's identification program. The Sheriff's Department compared those prints with the post mortem prints I took in 2001, and made a positive identification.
Thanks for all you've done for Lyle. As you know; there is no headstone on Lyle's grave. Please tell the family that we'd all be glad to fund raise to give him a proper headstone unless they're going to exhume him to bring him home.