WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - #10

[Cubby]

I have given this much thought and I still am not totally against it as a possibility.. But in my great ponderance over the "accidental death" I just have become so very leery of offering that up as the theory due to it in past cases be in my opinion that so many times we tell or try to convince ourselves it just has to be a tragic accident and not just the fact that we're dealing with abnormal, ill, and even sometimes just straight up evil "mothers".. Sadly over the course of time I've found that it rarely is the case that a tragic accident occurred(just as Dr. G testified to In the CA case 99% of the time a parent calls for help or takes child to hospital if some tragic accident has occurred).. So, with Julia I'm personally having a hard time giving her the benefit of doubt of it being a tragic accident..

Another reason I'm leaning away from his dying in the apt in an accident when Julia had left he and MM alone for an extended period of time, and that is that I have to agree with ChrisTexas reply to my regarding the HRD dogs and that's they literally have had to have used the HRD/cadaver dogs by this point in this case(specifically using cadaver dogs on Apt/car).. I mean with FBI involved how could they not have used the cadaver dogs?!? It's hard to fathom such an obvious error couldn't possibly be.. Therefor going on that thought/opinion I wonder then does it mean truly there were no alerts in the apt/car?? If that does turn out to be a fact(no alerts in home/car) then that too is what has me leaning away from Sky having died in the home(accidental or intentional)..

But I'm seriously starting to wonder if this omission of the searching done with cadaver dogs may just be another tactical choice of their plan with handling Julia.. How many of you all believe this is likely?? As in tho there is zero documentation or reporting of their using cadaver dogs on home/car(only scent dogs used).. Could it be that LE truly has not only searched both these area but that The dogs actually alerted on ATLEAST one of those places??. And LE has strategically chosen to with hold this detail from Julia and then therefor from the public as well?? What do most of y'all believe to be the case here regarding the cadaver dogs and their alerting or not on the apt/car?

TIA

Keep in mind JB would perceive an accident as a means of losing custody. She was in the middle of a heated custody battle. An ill but ok, or hurt but ok Sky when she arrived would have lead to losing custody if she called 911. That's why I lean towards accident being a possibility.

Or she lost her temper and went ballistic on Sky because he resembles his daddy so much, but I can't imagine her doing so without M knowing. (Unless she strangled or smothered him.)

I still believe cadaver dogs were used in the apartment even though LE has denied that info. IMO, it would be strategy to keep that close to the vest. She's a clean freak. A cadaver dog hit might not be enough forensic evidence to ensure a conviction so they are waiting for more.... plus they really want to locate Sky, whether that be a rescue or recovery.

JMO

 

[RabidBadger]

They actually have something they can use in these pix if she did change her clothes. That is, where are the old clothes? If they get a search warrant and don't find them, this could be something that could sink her.


Personally if Sky is not alive I believe she buried him in the ground. I think her OCD would contribute to her wanting him to buried "the right way."


Poor kid.

I find the odds of her burying Sky to be unlikely. This is a high-maintenance woman who also has severe OCD about cleaning. No way she would use a shovel and play in dirt, not in this lifetime. Plus she's used to having others cater to her every need. What are the odds she's going to put physical effort into the disposal?

As opposed to slipping the child into water or a garbage bin?

 

[fraudqueen]

Just checked in before bed and saw the pics....all I can saw is wow. Hard to believe this is the same JB as in the FB pages...like wow. and poor little boy looks so different than first photos shown...this is terrible.

 

[cleo612]

Sorry if its been posted before but,

http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=129&sid=580607&pid=2

photo #3 looks like maybe a casino? Those look like they could be slot machines behind her

I am several pages behind, so I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet.

If you look at the flooring in pictures 5 and 14, they look the same to me. Picture 5 is of Julia, and picture 14 is of Sky with his daddy. You can also see a piece of furniture right behind Julia that looks quite similar to the office furniture in the picture with Sky and his daddy.

In reference to the post I quoted here, I do not think they are slot machines. I see trees clearly visible in what looks like a wall of windows.

 

[MEM2010]

I noticed some of the new pics released from the bank are up close and personal, almost like an ATM cam.

I worked at a bank for a few years and our ATM took shots just like that.

So I'm thinking she tried to make a withdrawl from the machine and was denied.

Then, she went to the teller and they denied her again, thus the panic look.




MOO

 

[Cubby]

I know I saw a "websleuth lingo" link at some point, and I spent nearly 15 minutes this evening to find it. For the Love of God -PLEASE... (I couldn't find the link again) What does ETA mean??? I see this acronym very often...

Thank you to any generous info providers. Much appreciated.

I see someone answered your question about ETA.

The websleuths lingo thread is located in the sticky area of the missing discussion forum.

Also, for the easiest searches. Go to search (use the main forum page if you don't what forum it is in) select advanced search, search by keywords and select show as threads or show as posts.

That works easiest for me and I can usually find things within a few minutes tops.

hth

 

[hambirg]

Can we just talk about the elephant in the room here?

There is NO way that a severely OCD person accidentally OD'd their kid. They control everything. There is no room for accidents.

Her past behavior has proven that she needs to be in control and she has been vindictive of Dad. This was absolutely planned and premeditated. If for no other reason than her own need to control every situation. We have to take into account the timing as well. She was going to lose control.

This was no momentary rage. She wouldn't have allowed for this to happen in her home.

My guess is that she did what she has always done. It was a comfortable, safe pattern for her. She bribed Sky into going with her. She bribed him into getting out of the car. And then. . .I hate to think it. . .but she did something. . something safe, clean, and effective where she could still have control. . .where she knew the outcome.

I do still think she could have buried him. It's not messy to bury someone in the sand here and it doesn't take any special tools. She could have also dumped him in the water. But anybody from around here knows that all water leads to the Sound. I think it would have been giving up control in a sense, and I don't see her doing that. You just don't know where a body will wash up around here. BUT, if you bury someone, you know exactly where they are.

All MOO

 

[Cubby]

I noticed some of the new pics released from the bank are up close and personal, almost like an ATM cam.

I worked at a bank for a few years and our ATM got profile shots just like that.

So I'm thinking she tried to make a withdrawl from the machine and was denied.

Then, she went to the teller and they denied her again, thus the panic look.




MOO

Could very well be. That would explain her need to go to a teller.

 

[Miziree]

I am several pages behind, so I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet.

If you look at the flooring in pictures 5 and 14, they look the same to me. Picture 5 is of Julia, and picture 14 is of Sky with his daddy. You can also see a piece of furniture right behind Julia that looks quite similar to the office furniture in the picture with Sky and his daddy.

In reference to the post I quoted here, I do not think they are slot machines. I see trees clearly visible in what looks like a wall of windows.

Here are some posts that confirm that:
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - #10

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - #10

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - #10

and another photo inside:
Redmond Branch of Sterling Savings Bank | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

 

[Cubby]

Can we just talk about the elephant in the room here?

There is NO way that a severely OCD person accidentally OD'd there kid. They control everything. There is no room for accidents.

Her past behavior has proven that she needs to be in control and she has been vindictive of Dad. This was absolutely planned and premeditated. If for no other reason than her own need to control every situation. We have to take into account the timing as well. She was going to lose control.

This was no momentary rage. She wouldn't have allowed for this to happen in her home.

My guess is that she did what she has always done. It was a comfortable, safe pattern for her. She bribed Sky into going with her. She bribed him into getting out of the car. And then. . .I hate to think it. . .but she did something. . something safe, clean, and effective where she could still have control. . .where she knew the outcome.

I do still think she could have buried him. It's not messy to bury someone in the sand here and it doesn't take any special tools. She could have also dumped him in the water. But anybody from around here knows that all water leads to the Sound. I think it would have been giving up control in a sense, and I don';t see her doing that. You just don't know where a body will wash up around here. BUT, if you bury someone, you know exactly where they are.

All MOO

Your theory is plausible. Sadly, especially while she is in the midst of this rage against dad. IF the email from JB's mom is credible, we've seen an example of how Julia was raised and might hold onto that venom for decades.

It may have simply boiled down to a year, year and a half long custody battle with someone she hated and she couldn't see past Sky's strong resemblence to his daddy. Sky does look just like his daddy. (And not that it matters, but imo Sky is a better looking version of his dad. Both are good looking, I just think Sky happens to have the better looks of the two.)

It may have been too much for her to have that reminder of her ex in Sky daily.

I hope not, but it is possible imo.

 

[sunflowerchick]

I am a little behind here and this is the first time I have seen the photos but I noticed something. In the photo taken in the kitchen with Sky in the sink, did anyone notice the shine on the appliances? No way would stainless steel look like that unless it was cleaned meticulously. No kid fingerprints, no grease splatters, etc. There is just too much reflection and glare.

Also if those other photos really are of a bank, it's interesting to me that the bank would manifest so frequently. I realize that the pictures of J are likely surveillance pics, but the photo of S with Sky clearly isn't. It's like money is a serious factor here for some reason. Of course given the "sugar daddy" thing that would make sense.

 

[GingerRed]

This photo is still on her flikr account in the Family Slideshow 2011 on page 3 - it's the very last photo.

What's notable was that she reposted it yesterday. Then deleted it.

It was reposted September 5th, and it can be found deeper in the flickr when it was originally taken in July 09 when she was pregnant w/Sky.

 

[GingerRed]

It's a scenic photo with a mountain in the background iirc. She still has the photo on the site. She posted the same photo for the 3rd time (according to members who looked at all of her photo's.) on the 17th along with about 70+ other photo's. She only removed the photo uploaded on the 17th. The same picture exists somewhere else in two other places iirc.

If I am incorrect, someone please correct the details for accuracy. tia!

hth

You've got it correct!

 

[Cubby]

We can link to Flickr account as long as its a public site and related to this case. No posting of pics here at Websleuths from Flickr account.

Respectfully snipped.

I wanted to bump this to remind members we can't post flickr pictures here at WS. We can link to the flickr account, but not post the photo's.

 

[belimom]

Respectfully snipped.

I wanted to bump this to remind members we can't post flickr pictures here at WS. We can link to the flickr account, but not post the photo's.

Point taken... I fixed my post. :seeya:

 

[hambirg]

Your theory is plausible. Sadly, especially while she is in the midst of this rage against dad. IF the email from JB's mom is credible, we've seen an example of how Julia was raised and might hold onto that venom for decades.

It may have simply boiled down to a year, year and a half long custody battle with someone she hated and she couldn't see past Sky's strong resemblence to his daddy. Sky does look just like his daddy. (And not that it matters, but imo Sky is a better looking version of his dad. Both are good looking, I just think Sky happens to have the better looks of the two.)

It may have been too much for her to have that reminder of her ex in Sky daily.

I hope not, but it is possible imo.

Thank you for bringing up the article from John Hathaway.

As a local from Tacoma . .the New Takhoman is mostly a thorn in local governments side. It's basically an underground newspaper. John is a bartender at a local dive bowling alley. I know it sounds crazy, but I have never heard of him being wrong. He is the best of the best when it comes to local sleuthing.

I do absolutely believe that he would have e-mailed JB's Mom. He's pretty unrelenting about sleuthing out local contacts. He has been known to break local stories long before they have ever hit the local media chains. He did that in the Crystal Brame case.

Here's a link. . .

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/25/48hours/main575070.shtml

 

[belimom]

Your theory is plausible. Sadly, especially while she is in the midst of this rage against dad. IF the email from JB's mom is credible, we've seen an example of how Julia was raised and might hold onto that venom for decades.

It may have simply boiled down to a year, year and a half long custody battle with someone she hated and she couldn't see past Sky's strong resemblence to his daddy. Sky does look just like his daddy. (And not that it matters, but imo Sky is a better looking version of his dad. Both are good looking, I just think Sky happens to have the better looks of the two.)

It may have been too much for her to have that reminder of her ex in Sky daily.

I hope not, but it is possible imo.

bbm

I'm lost. What e-mail? TIA...

 

[suzyq211]

I am way behind and have to catch up when I get home from work. I just have to comment on those new pics of Julia...she looks like cr*p!!!! Worried, apprehensive, and a mess. Very telling...

 

[hambirg]

bbm

I'm lost. What e-mail? TIA...

http://www.thenewtakhoman.com/111411.html

 

[GingerRed]

Thank you for bringing up the article from John Hathaway.

As a local from Tacoma . .the New Takhoman is mostly a thorn in local governments side. It's basically an underground newspaper. John is a bartender at a local dive bowling alley. I know it sounds crazy, but I have never heard of him being wrong. He is the best of the best when it comes to local sleuthing.

I do absolutely believe that he would have e-mailed JB's Mom. He's pretty unrelenting about sleuthing out local contacts. He has been known to break local stories long before they have ever hit the local media chains. He did that in the Crystal Brame case.

Here's a link. . .

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/25/48hours/main575070.shtml

I'm going to second this. This guy does real underground journalism.