BlueCrab
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Sprocket said:Tricia already posted it. You chose to ignore it.
Sprocket,
Posted what? I'm not an encyclopedia.
Sprocket said:Tricia already posted it. You chose to ignore it.
TLynn said:Where would the stun gun have gone - IF the Ramseys were involved?
Oh, are you refering to Doberson, the same "certified forensic pathologist" who is on record telling the press that you CANNOT tell by a photograph if a stun gun was used? Or Meyer, who actually said "anything's possible", (as in "yeah, it could be vampire bites too").BlueCrab said:The three injuries on JonBenet, identified as consistent with stun gun injuries by almost every certified forensic pathologist who studied the autopsy report and the photos, are not imaginary.
BlueCrab,BlueCrab said:The missing stun gun,
the roll of duct tape,
the rest of the white nylon cord,
the nine pages from the notepad,
the wipedown cloth that left fibers on JonBenet.
aRnd2it said:BlueCrab,
*The tape left a line of green paint on her chin so it may have been a single piece of tape peeled off Patsy's paint tote.
aRnd2it said:BlueCrab,
You are assuming a whole lot that isn't even in evidence.
*Stun gun use was never and WILL NEVER be proven.
*The tape left a line of green paint on her chin so it may have been a single piece of tape peeled off Patsy's paint tote.
*There is no evidence additional or excess cord even existed.
*The writing pad was not new, and the missing pages could have been pulled from it weeks before the crime.
*The police never searched the house for a "wipe down" cloth, nor did take any cloths, towels, washrags, etc., into evidence.
You can't claim it's missing when there is no proof it ever existed in the first place. Why don't you also claim the horse that the perp rode off on is missing?
aRnd2it said:BlueCrab,
You are assuming a whole lot that isn't even in evidence.
*Stun gun use was never and WILL NEVER be proven.
How can you be sure, when nothing about this case seems a sure thing?
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*The tape left a line of green paint on her chin so it may have been a single piece of tape peeled off Patsy's paint tote.
BC used the word 'MAY', so comment could go either way. As an artist, tape 'sometimes' is used to secure some portion of the painting into the frame, could certainly become 'entangled' with the whole paint/art process. Where do you keep your roll of duck tape? If thrown into the paint tote, tape could easily pick and stick to a tube of paint with a drizzle of wet paint on the side of a tube, depending on the type and brand of paint in the tube. imop
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*There is no evidence additional or excess cord even existed.
Hmmm, cord now comes in the EXACT amount needed for a given job ? ?, I have never found that to be true, there will always be leftovers. How much left over ?, depends on the length and size of the packaged rope. The garrote was found IN THE HOME, the question is WHERE DID IT COME FROM? the perp ??, did not bring his own paper pad to write the note on.
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*The writing pad was not new, and the missing pages could have been pulled from it weeks before the crime.
How many of you all pull out pages under an empty page of a pad. As I recall the PD matched the tear patterns, and determined the missing pages were torn in the midst of the final DRAFT of the phony ransom note, or am I remembering in error?
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*The police never searched the house for a "wipe down" cloth, nor did take any cloths, towels, washrags, etc., into evidence.
Well, keep in mind that the clothes dryer had freshly washed items in it.
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You can't claim it's missing when there is no proof it ever existed in the first place. Why don't you also claim the horse that the perp rode off on is missing?
BlueCrab,BlueCrab said:o NOTHING "is in evidence". There was no trial.
o If you can't accept the opinions of experts (the forensic pathologists) then you are right -- the existence of a stun gun will never be proven, to YOU.
o What, did the single piece of Shurtape brand of black duct tape (actually manufactured in Hickory, N.C. just a month before the murder) magically grow all by itself on Patsy's paint tote, and was harvested from the tote by the perp? Come on now. There STILL had to be a ROLL of duct tape some where from which the tape on JonBenet was cut from. There was no evidence of the tape being used elsewhere in the house. The roll of tape
wasn't in the house, nor anywhere else that was searched.
o The 1/4" wide white nylon cord, distributed by Stansport in California, is sold in 50' and 100' rolls. There was no evidence of the cord being used elsewhere in the house. There had to be leftover cord, but the balance of the cord wasn't in the house.
o The nine missing pages were directly in front of the three pages on which the ransom note was written. It's reasonable to assume the nine pages were used for practice, and then taken by the perp as he cleaned up any evidence.
o The house (and all of the clothing, fabrics, etc. in it) was totally searched by the cops for the wipedown cloth that left dark fibers on JonBenet's labia and on her inner thighs. It was never found.
JMO
It's a very old case fact that I have long forgotten where I first heard about it. Reference to it wasn't hard to find on Google though. Here's Smit talking about it:sissi said:Was there really a green paint stripe on her chin? Is this some kind of inside information you have aRnd? If not can you share your source?
BlueCrab said:TLynn,
The missing stun gun, and the other evidence that is missing (the roll of duct tape, the rest of the white nylon cord, the nine pages from the notepad, the wipedown cloth that left fibers on JonBenet, etc.) is evidence that a fifth person had been in the house that night, and he carried out the missing items of crime scene evidence when he exited the house.
However, that fifth person had to have been let in or invited in by a Ramsey. The Ramseys wouldn't be lying and covering up to protect an unknown intruder. They would do this only if a family member was involved in the crime along with that fifth person.
JMO
It's certainly possible Burke was involved in the crime. If Burke was, there may be some connection to Doug Stine which would explain the strange and bizarre behavour after the crime by Doug's parents.BlueCrab said:The perp, who in my opinion was likely Doug Stine A/O Nathan Inouye, took ONLY those crime scene items of evidence he had brought into the house.
twizzler333 said:OK....IF the Ramsey's plan was foiled because of the snowfall that night and thus, were "trapped" and could not complete their cover up, then how did the fifth person get out without leaving a trace? Because an intruder could very well have gone out a door, just as easily as the fifth person you claim did.
aRnd2it said:It's certainly possible Burke was involved in the crime. If Burke was, there may be some connection to Doug Stine which would explain the strange and bizarre behavour after the crime by Doug's parents.
I think as a young adult, Nathan Inouye was probably investigated by LE and had a good alibi. I think I remember someone investigating Inouye and finding out he was out of state with relatives for the holidays.