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On the receipts that were entered into evidence you can see an entry for a 'tire service' or something of that nature. I always thought she did get a flat. The Powers That Be were keeping her from the funeral.

I recall that receipt, however, it was not in or near Fresno, or anywhere else in the San Joaquin Valley.

Agree. Thankfully she did NOT go to the funeral and make further mockery of Travis and his family.

MOO
 
I recall that receipt, however, it was not in or near Fresno, or anywhere else in the San Joaquin Valley.

Agree. Thankfully she did NOT go to the funeral and make further mockery of Travis and his family.

MOO

Thank you for remembering that! The details swirl in my head till I'm dizzy. After a few hours of looking/thinking about parts of this case I can barely tell you my name and address! :)
 
I'm looking forward to IS Monday morning replaying the whole of JM's cross of ALV. It was very brief but powerful I thought.

It was my impression he had only finished for the day, not the entirety of his cross-examination?

:waitasec:
 
I believe 100% that she ordered Travis to sit down and he had to because she had a gun pointed at him. There is NO other reasonable explanation for why he is sitting down there.

Nope, she needed the element of surpise before attacking him. I have no doubt that should she have pointed a gun or knife at him and not started using it immediately he would have lunged for her to try to disarm her. The whole point to getting him in the shower was to trap him with the only way out her using a knife on him. She needed the shower as a trap and a surprise attack to disarm him... and it worked. She wouldn't have wanted to take ANY chances of his being able to over power her or cause her serious injury or even turn the weapon back on her. The element of surprise was even more important than the shower trap.

I don't think he looks surprised at all in that photo. His mouth is open, but his eyes aren't opened wide and he certainly doesn't look horrified which I'm sure he would look if he turned around and suddenly saw her there threatening him with a knife. Maybe he was saying something to her or spitting out water from the shower. Could be that's when she asked him to sit in the shower, and he thought it was a really odd request (what's sexy about a naked dude sitting in a cramped shower stall?). That last photo of his face doesn't look frightened or shocked either... he just looks tired and irritated. Frankly, it's much the same expression he had in one of his naked photos on the bed. I think after the sex he just wanted her to leave... he was expecting a conference call at 6pm and probably wanted to do some preparation for it. She probably already had brought up her wanting him to take her to Cancun the next day instead of Mimi, and he was just annoyed that this visit was once again one of her ploys to get back with him.

Besides, she only has two hands. How was she supposed to hold the camera, the gun AND the knife all at the same time and be able to use any of them with any effect?

No, she needed that element of surprise to start attacking him, and she likely dropped that camera when she first struck him with the knife (the bathroom ceiling photo).
 
I recall that receipt, however, it was not in or near Fresno, or anywhere else in the San Joaquin Valley.

Agree. Thankfully she did NOT go to the funeral and make further mockery of Travis and his family.

MOO

Am in the San Joaquin valley, Jodie stopped at McDonald's in Lodi for fries and water. Her appetite in tact! If it was me headed to do such a heinous crime, I couldn't even think I'd have an appetite. But than I'm human.
 
Two more priceless gems she expects people to believe are 1) she didn't want to pay the high gas prices in Southern California and 2) she didn't make it to Travis' funeral because she got a flat tire in the San Joaquin Valley (allegedly near Fresno).

:floorlaugh:

As to the first one, did she not stop for gas in Pasadena? Is that not in Southern California? And the second one, she expects everyone to believe after her first road trip and the gas cans (she was so utterly prepared) that a flat tire in a heavily populated area couldn't be repaired and her "spare" was also flat?

:floorlaugh:

MOO

To #1 and her not wanting to pay high gas prices.

‏@ 2m #JodiArias PAID $6.99 a gallon for GAS as Penalty for bringing Rental Car Back EMPTY GAS TANK ($7 x 18 = $126)

https://twitter.com//status/320996793146036224/photo/1
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
 
Wonder if martinez has faced off wilmott or nurmi before?

I would love to know that too! Just watching Nurmi's body language it seems to me like he is rather aquainted with him. I could be reading more into it and there is no proof of this....just a feeling I have.

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I'm right there with ya! I got a call this afternoon that my Monday client was cancelling on me. Normally I would have fumed for quite a while over the loss of dollars...but then I realized that it's a Monday thing, and therefore...I. can. watch. JM. All better now :)

Sadly , my Monday will not cancel...oh well there is always livestream
 
Oh how funny I remember those days.

I remember hearing that there was a verdict and turning on HLN where a few THs were saying they weren't surprised there was a swift verdict because they basically didn't put on a defense, and I remember thinking, "you idiot, you don't even know the verdict." Man o man was I right.
 
Question.

Did ALV ever mention things other than the "chaotic pattern" photo that Jodi used to embellish her claims of pedophilia? The braids and the, um, hairlessness that JA claimed Travis demanded?
I do not believe she did.
I had a dream last night that the trial ended and I thought to myself, "ok, I can set this aside for a while," but then remembered, "oh, yeah, this is gonna be a fast verdict! Better keep tabs on the news!"

Let's hope that proves prescient!

If Dr Demarte was allowed to use the SARA (Spousal Assault Risk Assessment)

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/122012/m5544446.pdf

I wish I could post this!!!! I don't know how!!!!
We can play for another month in ALV fairy tale continuum, but once Juanderful places this on the overhead projector and Dr Demarte goes down the short and to the point 20 question list, and JA has put MOST of it out there all by herself... (not counting what might be added from interviewing family members and x boyfriends...

well the defense table will do this...:burn::burn::burn:
It will be over pack up and go home nothing to see here folks DONE for JA of course we will still have closing srguments but that will just be a formality. IMO
http://www.housedems.ct.gov/dv/pubs/120610/OVA_Risk_Assessment_Example.pdf


http://books.google.com/books?hl=en... risk assessment violence against men&f=false

SARA:
Can help determine the degree to which an individual poses a DV threat to his/her spouse, children, another family member or any other person involved.
This tool is a quality control checklist that both determines the the extent to which the assessor has considered the risk factors of crucial predictive importance, and yields T-scores and percentiles that are used to classify individuals into High or Moderate/Low Risk categories.
 
I’m just getting back up to speed on the case, but the similarities in the defense really jumped out at me. It seems Mary’s testimony is what turned the case in her favor. The jury believed her even tho there was really no proof of the sexual abuse except that the defense showed the jury a pair of white platform-heel shoes and a wig Mary Winkler said her husband wanted her to wear during sex. And Pornographic photos she identified as coming from their home computer were entered as evidence. As for the physical abuse, her father suspected abuse but Mary denied it to him and she never received any medical treatment for injuries…….The prosecution even presented a motive for the murder. They submitted details from Mary's confession and revealed what they believe was her motive: She was caught up in a swindle that sunk the family into a financial mess. As part of what is known as a Nigerian 419-type scam, Mary received worthless checks totaling about $17,500, then moved the funds around a number of bank accounts, allowing her to make withdrawals before the checks had cleared—an illegal practice called check-kiting. Matthew and his wife argued about her reckless dealings a day before the killing, say prosecutors, and it was his anger toward her that led her to plan his murder and leave him dying on the floor.

The mere thought of that case makes me want to hurl.:banghead: I try not to think about it because it makes my BP rise. Imo it is one of the blackest marks on the justice system in TN history.:furious:

Her attorneys were big city slick lawyers. The Prosecutor a county man in a small conservative town of 4000 people. The DT picked this town because if it had been moved to Memphis or another large town Winkler would be in prison for 51 years like she deserved. They knew the mere word 'sex' would shock the jury's conservative sensibilities.

The one shoe suddenly appeared out of the blue right before the trial along with the wig both that never looked like they had been worn. Winkler was the one home where the computer was and the photos weren't even that racy. Just naked women in hooker shoes. The *advertiser censored* pics had been viewed one time and then deleted. I think it was MW looking at *advertiser censored* to see how other women looked. LOLOLOL! Mary said she never looked at the pictures but looked at the wall instead but Ms. Meek and Mousy gets up there and identifies all of them.:floorlaugh:

There was never any evidence that she was abused whatsoever. All she did is dress up in court to look downtrodden, meek and mousy like the DT told her to dress. Never mind in RL outside of the courtroom she had her a man, wore makeup, jewelry, went to bars and smoked.

Grave injustices happen in our justice system and its far from perfect but thank goodness they don't happen often. Some jurors can be hoodwinked by the shock and awe like in the Winkler and Anthony cases where the DT had no ethical boundaries.

As far as this case it may be the same caliber of lawyers as the other two teams who played the victim game and the results was favorable but beyond that ............that is it, imo.

These jurors are critical thinkers and aren't going to drink the Kool-Aid.

They are going to mete out justice for Travis. I don't have one doubt in Juan Martinez' ability to bring justice for what JA did to Travis. In fact I think she is closer to death row than ever before the more the defense case goes on. The defense case has not helped her............it has revealed just how guilty she truly is.:furious:

IMO
 
Thank you for remembering that! The details swirl in my head till I'm dizzy. After a few hours of looking/thinking about parts of this case I can barely tell you my name and address! :)

That is the beautiful thing about being here at WS. What one doesn't remember, another will. We help each other out.

:)
 
To #1 and her not wanting to pay high gas prices.

‏@ 2m #JodiArias PAID $6.99 a gallon for GAS as Penalty for bringing Rental Car Back EMPTY GAS TANK ($7 x 18 = $126)

https://twitter.com//status/320996793146036224/photo/1
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

THAT was hilarious!!!

:great:
 
On the receipts that were entered into evidence you can see an entry for a 'tire service' or something of that nature. I always thought she did get a flat. The Powers That Be were keeping her from the funeral.

The Starbucks hatin' skaters probably turned her tires inside out.
 
Juan more day ~ cannot wait until tomorrow!
 
Call block and de-friending on FB and Myspace would have worked to. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around looking for my abusers gun as opposed to running far away and fast from the evil abusive naked man who owned a gun.

I know! The entire flimsy defense crumbles when you ask yourself if it makes any kind of sense for her to travel all the way to AZ to see this horrible, mean, abusive pedophile.
 
Wilmotts is sure spending alot of time! repeating re crossing, for long torturous days. Over and over as if the jurors are dummies and need it pounded into them.

Maybe she was in part trying to keep the witness on the stand to annoy and prevent juan from getting his turn.
I'm sure the DTis dreading it. When he turn comes around. They know hes just that good.

Nurmi's supposed to be watching that jury. Same as when he was up----she should have been watching them. When it's clear you're losing them, shouldn't you tweak some things? Maybe NOT belabor a point so much that jurors are thinking "oh nooooooo.......not April 9th AGAIN!!!!"

They've heard it all to death. I don't know if they decided we're plowing through this, jury be damned or what. But unless I'm very mistaken, the jury is sick to death of what they've been sitting through for these many days, and hearing in GREAT detail, the same stories over and over again.
 
Lol same here! (Laptop) (ipad) (iPhone) all in in use. Wont answer door, (knock at your own risk) Cell phones turned off. I need to make dr appointments but not until after she's sentenced. Glad I live alone, my (boyfriends) not safe to show up until after court ends, and ive watched JVM ng dr drew and than and only than I'm approachable .

I'm right there with ya! I got a call this afternoon that my Monday client was cancelling on me. Normally I would have fumed for quite a while over the loss of dollars...but then I realized that it's a Monday thing, and therefore...I. can. watch. JM. All better now :)


It's so good to be among those who understand :rocker: Thank You Friends :blushing:
 
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