Wesley Hadsell Arrested 21-22 March 2015

[hey-Debbie]

RSBM

I understand the plain sight but on the Affidavit it states that they were going to look in the vents per AB testimony (he had to have told them that on March 20, to have said it during the Hearing where he was subpoena to testify) JMHO

I wonder about this too because of the missing person report that was posted where stuff was blacked out. I think some of us thought that there was ammo listed as missing on the missing person report. Wasn't that report taken on the following Tuesday evening? Which either means that someone took the ammo from the house the time she went missing or it could have been taken by WH when he initially moved out and JH and maybe others knew that WH had it already in his possession previously and could have been trying to set something up or doubt in LE's minds.

 

[Vail]

Jumping ahead to say THANK YOU AzLawyer for jumping in, your four points were exactly on point. Thank you to arkansasmimi also for diligently reporting and pasting all the info.

Happyshoes asked if we know Wes turned over his phone, and this may have been answered since, but whatever the reality is, Joe Fisher has him on video and on the record saying he turned it over voluntarily. (Jailhouse interview #1)

 

[hey-Debbie]

I still wonder a bit about the timeline with WH's work on the Monday she went missing. If he met her at a gas station on Tidewater Drive near Lindenwood Avenue, I wonder where he was supposed to be working on the day she went missing. I can't remember if it was ever stated. Also, remember the sightings of her truck by one of the witnesses? What about that? That person I think is pretty sure it was AJ driving the truck. Someone was driving that truck after the around 2 p.m. . Even if don't don't consider the witness that said they saw a white car parked behind the red truck that afternoon we could still consider someone was driving that red truck in the neighborhood. I wonder if WH stated they met at a gas station other than trying to explain away her/his phone pings. But obviously she was driving that truck in the afternoon. Maybe they met somewhere else in that area and is trying to cover up for a drug dealer location, etc. I think there is a lot more background story still to come. Also, I'm sure his boss can still testify that he was working at some point that day. There hasn't been any info of witnesses coming forward to claim otherwise. I'm sure if he was working at a location someone would be witness to that.

 

[arkansasmimi]

I still wonder a bit about the timeline with WH's work on the Monday she went missing. If he met her at a gas station on Tidewater Drive near Lindenwood Avenue, I wonder where he was supposed to be working on the day she went missing. I can't remember if it was ever stated. Also, remember the sightings of her truck by one of the witnesses? What about that? That person I think is pretty sure it was AJ driving the truck. Someone was driving that truck after the around 2 p.m. . Even if don't don't consider the witness that said they saw a white car parked behind the red truck that afternoon we could still consider someone was driving that red truck in the neighborhood. I wonder if WH stated they met at a gas station other than trying to explain away her/his phone pings. But obviously she was driving that truck in the afternoon. Maybe they met somewhere else in that area and is trying to cover up for a drug dealer location, etc. I think there is a lot more background story still to come. Also, I'm sure his boss can still testify that he was working at some point that day. There hasn't been any info of witnesses coming forward to claim otherwise. I'm sure if he was working at a location someone would be witness to that.

Was this the first time FRANKLIN was mentioned?

By Stephanie Ballesteros
Published: April 3, 2015, 9:48 am Updated: April 7, 2015, 6:49 pm Fresh tip in IOW renews search for missing Norfolk teen
Hines, along with three neighbors, told 10 On Your Side detectives told them they were in the area searching for Hadsell’s cell phone. One resident said police told him Hadsell’s cell phone sent a signal to the area March 3 at 8 a.m. (*1 month after missing?) Hines said detectives showed him a picture of a white truck belonging to Quality Plumbing. Hines said he distinctly remembers seeing the truck driving slowly down Joyners Bridge Road, but not stopping.

“She asked me if I had seen that van in the area lately, and I told her that probably within the last week and a half to two weeks, I’ve seen it come down this road and go back out,” Hines said.

Jennifer Hadsell, the missing teen’s mother, told 10 On Your Side her husband was employed by Quality Plumbing and regularly drove a white truck. She said he was periodically driving to Franklin for work when AJ disappeared. Franklin is three miles south of the area police investigated Friday. http://wavy.com/2015/04/03/police-investigating-in-iow-in-anjelica-hadsell-disappearance/

JMHO, could that bbm be one reason for WH sister response when AJ was found on April 9th?

 

[Vail]

I still wonder a bit about the timeline with WH's work on the Monday she went missing. If he met her at a gas station on Tidewater Drive near Lindenwood Avenue, I wonder where he was supposed to be working on the day she went missing. I can't remember if it was ever stated. Also, remember the sightings of her truck by one of the witnesses? What about that? That person I think is pretty sure it was AJ driving the truck. Someone was driving that truck after the around 2 p.m. . Even if don't don't consider the witness that said they saw a white car parked behind the red truck that afternoon we could still consider someone was driving that red truck in the neighborhood. I wonder if WH stated they met at a gas station other than trying to explain away her/his phone pings. But obviously she was driving that truck in the afternoon. Maybe they met somewhere else in that area and is trying to cover up for a drug dealer location, etc. I think there is a lot more background story still to come. Also, I'm sure his boss can still testify that he was working at some point that day. There hasn't been any info of witnesses coming forward to claim otherwise. I'm sure if he was working at a location someone would be witness to that.

The court documents appear to state there is no evidence to support his claim that she met him at a gas station, in fact the CCTV proves otherwise. From what I understand WH gave them the name or address of the gas station, so there isn't a question of which one it purportedly was.

I think the white car was Wes or an accomplice. I think Wes delivered the truck to AJ that morning and was either driving or in it with her when they left and the first witness saw them. I do not think AJ was in the truck when it was coming back, and that is why the witness remembers the truck going by as "with purpose"or perhaps faster than normal. The truck was left at the house, the two or more people left together, maybe after going into the house to grab stuff like AJs wallet and jacket or ammo or whatever else went missing that day. I think AJ was deceased within a couple hours of her disappearance, and may have been wearing those shorts and her knee brace (we still don't know if she was clothed when she was found - my guess is no and that is why they are still pursuing it as foul play). Wes probably was working that afternoon, but I don't think his job is the kind where he punches a time clock. He had time in the morning to drop off the truck/keys, and he had time in the afternoon. Then he had plenty of time that evening after work and the hours leading up to the MP report being filed. I am certain LE has tracked down and interviewed anyone that saw him during that initial timeframe, and we won't know who those witnesses are or what they said or confirmed until the court case or the documents are unsealed.

I agree with you that there is more backstory yet to come and also have not totally discounted the white car.

 

[hey-Debbie]

The court documents appear to state there is no evidence to support his claim that she met him at a gas station, in fact the CCTV proves otherwise. From what I understand WH gave them the name or address of the gas station, so there isn't a question of which one it purportedly was.

I think the white car was Wes or an accomplice. I think Wes delivered the truck to AJ that morning and was either driving or in it with her when they left and the first witness saw them. I do not think AJ was in the truck when it was coming back, and that is why the witness remembers the truck going by as "with purpose"or perhaps faster than normal. The truck was left at the house, the two or more people left together, maybe after going into the house to grab stuff like AJs wallet and jacket or ammo or whatever else went missing that day. I think AJ was deceased within a couple hours of her disappearance, and may have been wearing those shorts and her knee brace (we still don't know if she was clothed when she was found - my guess is no and that is why they are still pursuing it as foul play). Wes probably was working that afternoon, but I don't think his job is the kind where he punches a time clock. He had time in the morning to drop off the truck/keys, and he had time in the afternoon. Then he had plenty of time that evening after work and the hours leading up to the MP report being filed. I am certain LE has tracked down and interviewed anyone that saw him during that initial timeframe, and we won't know who those witnesses are or what they said or confirmed until the court case or the documents are unsealed.

I agree with you that there is more backstory yet to come and also have not totally discounted the white car.

I agree with this too.
This is the time that was reported on the timeline that WH got back to work - 1:15 – 1:20 PM But what if AJ actually never went to meet him at all other than his hotel room to get the money between 1 and 2 p.m. because it was reported that the kid saw her leaving and coming back. There is no witness that saw her leave to meet him at the time he said he did at the gas station. So maybe he was out getting drugs or meeting someone else he is covering for around that gas station location and to explain his pings in that area he said that. Then he goes back to work late then he leaves and says he going to job location and actually meets AJ at his hotel room with the promise of giving her money (and or drugs, etc.) and something happens there and he drives her truck back to the house and person in white car picks him up. I would imagine that this person in the white car would have to be pretty close and trusted person at the time. Maybe there is witness info that is sealed like everyone is saying. I have a lot of theories but as we know there are places we aren't allowed to go with the victim's family. I wonder if she was ever on RX pain meds for her knee. That is usually a precursor for heroine use and happens very easily from what I have been reading lately. In my opinion she knew very well why WH was kicked out of the family home. Hey I'm sure we've all watched Dr. Phil. Families have done a lot to hide and enable drug situations in the name of love for their children. Could you imagine that if parents knew very well about heroine use and even got heroine for their addicted child and they dies from it! Cover up begins and one becomes a suspect and basically says I'll g down for the both of us. Okay that is a crazy thought. But that heroine story was a setup from the beginning after revisiting ZH's words about he thought she might have OD'd.

 

[hey-Debbie]

Was this the first time FRANKLIN was mentioned?
Yes, I think that is the first time I ever remember hearing that.

JMHO, could that bbm be one reason for WH sister response when AJ was found on April 9th?

Probably so because I'm sure she heard probably was hearing it for the first time as well.

 

[sallye818]

Why couldn't the reason AJ called WH that morning simply have been to borrow the truck? She needn't have been contacting him for drugs ( you guys that have been following this from the beginning KNOW How I feel about that...I would stake my house on it that she was NOT meeting him for drugs). Heck, her mom was prob paying the insurance on the dog-gone truck anyway, and she'd been using it...she prob felt more than entitled to ask for it. My thought is that she had plans for that evening (NOT including Wes) and she needed a vehicle...that simple.

 

[katydid23]

Why couldn't the reason AJ called WH that morning simply have been to borrow the truck? She needn't have been contacting him for drugs ( you guys that have been following this from the beginning KNOW How I feel about that...I would stake my house on it that she was NOT meeting him for drugs). Heck, her mom was prob paying the insurance on the dog-gone truck anyway, and she'd been using it...she prob felt more than entitled to ask for it. My thought is that she had plans for that evening (NOT including Wes) and she needed a vehicle...that simple.

I totally agree. I think she wanted to make sure she was going to have the truck. JMO

 

[alexwood]

Something I find incredibly interesting is that, from reading the docs Arkansasmimi posted, it's clear that police believe that WH abducted AJ from the Millard St. residence. I would like to know what evidence they have that points to abduction, rather than her leaving with WH of her own volition.

ETA: Let's recall that, according to WH, AJ called him that morning, so there would be a record of that call in the phone logs (if it's true). If she did call him, I seriously doubt she called him saying, "Mom's gone, come abduct me." She must have called him for a reason (assuming Wes isn't lying about that). So I wonder...was she calling him looking for dope? Was she calling him asking for a place to stay for awhile? Also, a travel bag of her clothes was missing from the house. What abductor thinks to bring a bag of clothing and personal items for the abductee?

M_Kat, you make some very good observations. We're lucky to have you on this thread!

I don't know why, but I persist in believing that WH called AJ.

I can picture the scenario:

WH is obsessed with meeting up with AJ, so that he can assess her degree of "attraction" to him. He already knows that AJ "wants" him; he just doesn't know how badly. He figures AJ is reluctant to approach him, not wanting to betray her own mother. So, he has to make the first move, in an "innocent" way. Dropping off the truck "for AJ" presents the perfect opportunity. But first, he makes the call to her that morning, enroute to the house, just to say that he's dropping off the truck, blah, blah, blah ... uke: [excuse me!]. Then, to endear himself (he hopes) further, WH proffers some cash (not necessarily for the GoPro, but that would have been a good pretext) out of benevolence and the goodness of his own heart [(bleeeahhcch!) uke:], because he knew that she'd be needing money for her activities while home on Spring break. [Except WH says, several times, when interviewed: "AJ was home from spring break." Did anyone else notice that, or is it just me?]

As far as the travel bag with the clothes is concerned, WH could have gathered those items at any time, either before or after AJ "disappeared". He probably had access to the house -- if only because he had kept a duplicate key that JH did not know he had -- coming and going as he pleased while JH and the family were not home.

Good Night, all! Off to the :bath:

:cow:

 

[katydid23]

M_Kat, you make some very good observations. We're lucky to have you on this thread!

I don't know why, but I persist in believing that WH called AJ.

I can picture the scenario:

WH is obsessed with meeting up with AJ, so that he can assess her degree of "attraction" to him. He already knows that AJ "wants" him; he just doesn't know how badly. He figures AJ is reluctant to approach him, not wanting to betray her own mother. So, he has to make the first move, in an "innocent" way. Dropping off the truck "for AJ" presents the perfect opportunity. But first, he makes the call to her that morning, enroute to the house, just to say that he's dropping off the truck, blah, blah, blah ... uke: [excuse me!]. Then, to endear himself (he hopes) further, WH proffers some cash (not necessarily for the GoPro, but that would have been a good pretext) out of benevolence and the goodness of his own heart [(bleeeahhcch!) uke:], because he knew that she'd be needing money for her activities while home on Spring break. [Except WH says, several times, when interviewed: "AJ was home from spring break." Did anyone else notice that, or is it just me?]

As far as the travel bag with the clothes is concerned, WH could have gathered those items at any time, either before or after AJ "disappeared". He probably had access to the house -- if only because he had kept a duplicate key that JH did not know he had -- coming and going as he pleased while JH and the family were not home.

Good Night, all! Off to the :bath:

:cow:

Also, that duffel bag seems like something she would carry if she was going to go work out or go play ball. She may have brought it with her to put in the truck because she planned on running or working out that day. JMO


IF AJ and Mom had been arguing, Wes may have suggested she hang out in his place whie he was at work. That might have seemed cool with her. Not realizing his hidden motivation, of course.

 

[wunderngwhy]

BBM

I wouldn't expect anyone to see anything inappropriate in his relationship with AJ. I am sure he was quite sweet and attentive and loving. Just like my uncle was with me. Nobody had any idea what he was doing behind closed doors.

That is a terrible thing to go through....I am so sorry an adult could not recognize what was going on and intervene even if it was on an assumption that ANYTHING inappropriate was going on...

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Could the duffle bag simply have been what she brought home from school for the break? Mostly unpacked but some things still in it?

 

[Happyshoes]

Why couldn't the reason AJ called WH that morning simply have been to borrow the truck? She needn't have been contacting him for drugs ( you guys that have been following this from the beginning KNOW How I feel about that...I would stake my house on it that she was NOT meeting him for drugs). Heck, her mom was prob paying the insurance on the dog-gone truck anyway, and she'd been using it...she prob felt more than entitled to ask for it. My thought is that she had plans for that evening (NOT including Wes) and she needed a vehicle...that simple.

I may be totally off but didn't Jen say WH was supposed to bring the red truck to AJ, then take his work truck. So he was supposed to go by there Monday am and leave the keys for the truck in the mailbox. Then what? We don't know if he went to work, but we do know he was 30 minutes late from lunch and got reamed for it. Then of course, he and AJ "stared at each other for 30 minutes". I remember that phrase from him and it still gives me creeps. I wish we knew more about the little white car and also the dark green Dodge Caravan that was out at the house where AJ was found. It's hard to rely on eye witness info, I know.

 

[Happyshoes]

Also, that duffel bag seems like something she would carry if she was going to go work out or go play ball. She may have brought it with her to put in the truck because she planned on running or working out that day. JMO


IF AJ and Mom had been arguing, Wes may have suggested she hang out in his place whie he was at work. That might have seemed cool with her. Not realizing his hidden motivation, of course.

I can see this happening, too. He may have said you can hang out at my room, I'll be back around lunch time with the coke, after I go to the ATM. Then he comes back at lunch, things go badly, and he hurries back to work so he will have an alibi. Just throwing up my usual wacky ideas while watching football. I think he thought they were going to party together. Maybe he came back from work to the hotel room and she was there but she didn't wake up..??

 

[Zach]

ugh..

 

[Ontario Mom]

ugh..

Care to elaborate on that at all? I can't even imagine how maddening this all must be for you. Aside from the sick, heartbreaking fact that it happened, but all the lies and junk afterward.

 

[RosemountGAL]

With the new information coming out there is ONE BIG thing that to me, says it all... Who AJ's phone was close to/with at the time of what they are calling abduction... Which when you think about it could be considered a LOT of time... Like from the time SM stopped until the time of filing the missing person report.. I can picture DB sitting in his hotel room texting about how she had been doing heroin for weeks now... He was trying set it up from the very beginning because he knew HOW she died...! In MHO I don't think she was into drugs. That is just the vibe I get from the beginning until now. Who knows maybe WH pulled Z aside right after he got there to help search and gave him the *heads up* " I guess AJ has been doing some pretty hard drugs lately.. dude"

Just my opinion

 

[hey-Debbie]

So many possibilities really but I do find it weird that she had no SM or contact with her closest friends after Sunday night. I just don't really buy that or get that. I just don't. Okay, maybe she didn't post on Twitter or FaceBook but I just don't buy that she did not text or communicate with ANY of her friends especially if she did get into a fight with her mom or boyfriend (ex) or whatever. IMO. Maybe the police and the family and friends are keeping that as some kind of closed evidence. Also, I do think that the person that saw AJ come and go that afternoon did see her (at least her leaving the house) but could be possible someone else was driving the truck at the 2pm sighting or even someone that could pass for AJ as a cover. I don't think that if WH did it that he didn't act alone or that someone else helped him willingly or not knowing but dragged into it and has their own illegal actions they are covering for.

 

[Ontario Mom]

DB?? Pretty sure I knew everyone's initials in this case, but that one stumped me.