I believe they are a group of Hoity Toity rich guys, kids at first then just kept going into adulthood. I think they may have used a female in the beginning as a lure, then realized they just had to lie and stopped using the girls. . The vastness of the case spread out so far, they have to belong to a money family. They don't NEED money these guys are found dead with cash. I wondered about an injection and after being in water the results? Do they disappear or become obvious? They seem to know the area's well. With the bac's being that low and showing up in Victims who didn't drink, is it possible the 1st or 2nd Drink is being dosed?..
Yes, exactly. It's almost like you did the same research I did. or vice versa. Not sure how the women fit in either. But go back to the original victim, Patrick O'Neil I think. The story of his acting up was backed up by a bartender woman.
I'm gonna go here>>the bartender/waitress "witnesses".
When Lauren disappeared, one of the waitresses at Kilroy's said she was arguing with a man, a customer but her entire story made Lauren seem like it was all her fault, that she was rowdy, and also that Lauren actually told her how many drugs she had taken that night. IMO, all that was to cover their A$$.
The next week, Kilroys closed down and completely dismantled the many tons of beach sand and the entire beach theme that was wildly popular with the crowd, that Lauren had been playing in, where she supposedly left her phone and shoes.And kept the place closed for almost 6 months. By that time, all employee witnesses were scattered and gone.
IOW, these people lie. Lauren could have been arguing with DM. Who was the last person to admit to seeing Lauren hit her head, and be carried away by a man who by her description doesn't fit any of the POIs? It was the off duty bar manager from Yogi's. Who just happened to
know DM, from being a regular at Yogi's, Hannah Wilson's killer. Because this bartender witness gave a different time, and that ruined the entire timeline for the friends being guilty, here on WS most continued to view the Yogi's bar manager as somehow she was mistaken about the time she saw Lauren hit her head. She either lied, or told the truth, about what she saw and who it was.
The bartender at Kilroys was either lying, or telling the truth, about Lauren.
The bartenders are either lying, or telling the truth about some of these men who were drowned. sorry, rant over, lol.
After Hannah was killed, I think LE realized they had really
missed it when they didn't follow up on this bartender witness.
People call her a "witness" but really LE pulled her plates, she admitted to circling the building at the exact time Lauren was out there because she admitted she saw Lauren fall and hit her head and the man carried her off.
Most of these bartenders are going to say exactly what clears them of any wrong doing.
In some of these cases, the men were thrown out onto the freezing cold streets without their coats just because someone reported them as acting weird. In the Josh Strohzac (sp?) video, he seems to be looking at the jacket as if it's not his, he originally goes through a pocket and throws something away, keeps examining the jacket as he walks through the frame and you can see his body language when he decides to put on the jacket that isn't his.
So, if LE comes into the bar, and asks the bartender, bouncer, or bartender, did you throw this person out on someone else's recommendation, without giving them a chance, and without their coat? they will never say, "yes, I did." .
I see these people as patsies. They resent the clientele so unwittingly play into the killers plot but then lie and exaggerate to stay out of trouble.
This is the important factor, the keystone to the frame up.
When LE comes to investigate, the bartender, waitress or bouncer will report the victim's bad behavior. And then it's, drunk, misbehaving guy stumbles into river and drowns.
It was also on waitress and bartender testimony, that it was determined to be all Lauren's and her friends fault for their original behavior which is why everyone started focusing on
her friends and even Lauren herself instead of that man who was picking a fight with her in Kilroys. Years ago, in a Bloomington bar, DM picked a fight with a woman and her husband in a bar, punched the man out, left the bar and came back with a 2 by 4 and beat the woman over the head so savagely she lost sight in an eye.
Think about it. We've sleuthed many college student murders.
Has any of the bartenders, waiters, cab drivers, all of the people who make their living from these students EVER stood up for them after they're murdered? And yet, many of them
readily get them drunk by serving them over the limit and then throw them out in the street. The bartenders assist as men get young naive women blacked out drunk and then haul them out. That includes female bartenders as well.
Hey, lots of awesome waitresses and bartenders out there.