What questions are still unanswered?

[Controversialist]

Casey, why would you sit in jail for 3 years if your father, who you say molested you - was responsible for the cover up and Caylee's disposal?

Did the jury not think about that? If her father is so despicable, why would she cover for him for 3 years?

Just another thing the jury didn't bother to think about during their express "deliberation"...

Well said. I like it when genius comes to this message board.

I guess George cared less about giving Caylee a proper burial that day than he had previously cared about burying his dogs with dignity.

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[Controversialist]

ICA so adamantly hid this because she is she is guilty of some serious neglect and knew she would be in trouble for that neglect given the state of the body after floating in the pool undiscovered for a few hours.

I don't understand the jury at all - they seemed to accept that there was some sort of accident but didn't seem to think that Casey had any culpability during said accident. So I can't help ya there. But the Sunfire is as everyone else believes, Caylee's dead body was in that trunk....Casey is the one who dumped her in the woods after staging a kidnapping scenario with the duct tape placement.

Quite interesting. What nags me is why would ICA go to all this trouble and risk, just to hide an accident?

The Florida GJ indicted ICA for premeditated murder in October of 2008. That would have been a swell time for ICA to confess to the "true" pool accident.

I October 2008 ICA saw the risk of continuing to hide the pool story, which, if told, would probably guarantee her safety from a murder conviction. As long as she hid the truth about the pool, she kept the possible murder conviction in play.

Granted, she finally "saw the light" and aligned with the "true" pool story before the trial. But why the sudden, miraculous conversion to the "truth" of the pool after 30 months of concealing it?

Why did she lie about the pool for two years, after the GJ murder indictment in Oct. 2008, only to revel it at trial?

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[Granna6]

I know I'm late to the game, having watched only the final week of the trial. However, I've been generally aware of this case since it began and I early formed an opinion that she murdered that poor baby. Something has really been bugging me. I'm sure my concern has been discussed at length, but I'm a relative newcomer to this particular evidence--the Gatorade bottle contents and syringe. I would think it would be practically a "smoking gun." It and its contents could be meticulously examined and would reveal even which store it was sold at, when it was made, etc., etc. I realize that the chloroform in it has been dismissed as almost infinitesimal. But why on earth would testosterone be involved? Is it some sort of byproduct of some chemical process? I have no chemistry background, so I don't know. I never heard this evidence mentioned during the trial. What is the general thinking about this evidence?

 

[Quester]

Prior to Caylee’s death, were there other criminal behaviors by ICA which were covered up by CA & GA that were made public (apart from the check/credit card/money stealing from CA and CA’s parents)?

Reason I ask is that CA & GA showed signs of being suspicious of what ICA was capable of when GA didn’t call 911 immediately when he found ICA’s towed car with the smell of death. And, CA chose to wait to call 911 until she could talk to ICA (oh and do a little clean-up in the interim) despite CA being a nurse and knowing it was the smell of death.

CA & GA must have known that their daughter was volatile and capable of major mayhem. What had they seen her do before?

 

[Ambiance]

You know, I used to wonder if Caylee was killed by mistake. Perhaps drugged and od'd by mistake. But just tonite I was thinking about this and that no longer makes sense to me. I now believe whole heartedly that Caylee was killed on purpose.

Think about it. GA saw KC leave around 1 something pm with Caylee. I believe GA. By evening Caylee was no longer seen with KC and she went off with her boyfriend. That means she had to be killed the afternoon of the 16th after GA went to work. KC would have no need to drug Caylee that time of day. The boyfriend wasn't around at that time. The parents were gone to work. There was no reason to accidently od Caylee on anything at that time of day.

So it had to be on purpose. She had to have been thinking about this and did it on purpose while she had the chance and the parents were away. Either she was PO'd at the mom from this so called fight that I haven't heard proof of or she wanted to be free of Caylee so she could be with the boyfriend that night. But there is no way it was an accident that time of day since there was no partying or carousing going on at that time of day. 1st degree murder.

But, couldn't it have happened later that day? in preparation for the night of movie watching with Tony? Maybe that afternoon was when she brewed the chloroform?

 

[Ambiance]

Quite interesting. What nags me is why would ICA go to all this trouble and risk, just to hide an accident?

The Florida GJ indicted ICA for premeditated murder in October of 2008. That would have been a swell time for ICA to confess to the "true" pool accident.

I October 2008 ICA saw the risk of continuing to hide the pool story, which, if told, would probably guarantee her safety from a murder conviction. As long as she hid the truth about the pool, she kept the possible murder conviction in play.

Granted, she finally "saw the light" and aligned with the "true" pool story before the trial. But why the sudden, miraculous conversion to the "truth" of the pool after 30 months of concealing it?

Why did she lie about the pool for two years, after the GJ murder indictment in Oct. 2008, only to revel it at trial?

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I follow you, for sure...but what if it was chloroform? an overdose would surely be manslaughter, no? You know, an accident so bad, it would put her in jail anyway?

 

[Clock's Tickin]

My big question: Who is the daddy? It might seem unimportant at this time, but I just feel like he would want to know and maybe it would be one blood connection in this world that might actually advocate for this poor baby. So even if it seems crazy to wonder, I wish they would just fess up and spill the information!!!

 

[Clock's Tickin]

...not to go on and on about it, but at least with OJ there was a family stepping up behind with a wrongful death suit--Caylee has NOBODY to stand up and say "She counted and her death lies on the hands of KC"

 

[Ambiance]

It does to me - she isn't an innocent grieving mother in my theory...she is negligent and she chooses to not ruin her night by dumping the body (and staging the kidnapping)

excellent point. she IS guilty of something. she IS NOT innocent.

 

[Saffron]

...not to go on and on about it, but at least with OJ there was a family stepping up behind with a wrongful death suit--Caylee has NOBODY to stand up and say "She counted and her death lies on the hands of KC"

Yes. It's too bad there's no one to file a wrongful death suit. At least then Casey would have to take the stand and could no longer hide behind her like-minded counsel. And, even though I thought there was overwhelming evidence in the criminal trial, there is less burden of proof in a civil trial so she would surely be found guilty of something.

 

[fifteen89]

What was the Home Depot video.

 

[legalmania]

I still wanna know if Casey is having a relationship with one of the attorneys at Baez's office. What a perfect Casey man trap. He goes with Baez and then little by little Casey lures him in. Another fish on the hook. I know T.M.Z. is watching closely I'm sure the stories will start to fly after she is released.

 

[legalmania]

...not to go on and on about it, but at least with OJ there was a family stepping up behind with a wrongful death suit--Caylee has NOBODY to stand up and say "She counted and her death lies on the hands of KC"

I am personally giving them time. It's a little more complicated than O.J. for one O.J. had money and also O.J.s and Rons next of Kin, were suing. Will the law permit the grandparents to have standing in a civil suit? I know grandparents were given certain rights but to sue someone who is indigent. Casey will have to pay IRS first and then the state, then whoever else has judgements. So I'm going to wait and see.

 

[Eric's_Iguana]

Is there anybody who could file a wrongful death suit? Great-grandmother? Uncle Rick?

Poor baby Caylee.

 

[legalmania]

Is there anybody who could file a wrongful death suit? Great-grandmother? Uncle Rick?

Poor baby Caylee.

In some states the grandparents or a relative can sue for wrongful death, but since there is no cause of death this could be a problem. The Anthonys are broke, it costs money to bring a lawsuit. You have to find an attorney who is willing to take on cost.

 

[SaltyTexan]

...not to go on and on about it, but at least with OJ there was a family stepping up behind with a wrongful death suit--Caylee has NOBODY to stand up and say "She counted and her death lies on the hands of KC"

I think that is why we all "adopted" her, we aren't "blood" family, but we love her.


and we stand for her when others won't.

 

[Controversialist]

I follow you, for sure...but what if it was chloroform? an overdose would surely be manslaughter, no? You know, an accident so bad, it would put her in jail anyway?

If memory serves, you're correct. If ICA killed Caylee with chloroform under any circumstances, she would fall under a high-level felony charge, either Charge One or Charge Two for homicide.

And this chloroform event would fit the facts much better, IMO, than an accident. Unless I'm missing something, a pool accident requires the following:

[]--- GA decided to frame his own daughter ICA for murder, for three years, just to hide an accidental death.

[]--- GA was so determined to frame ICA, he was willing to desecrate Caylee's remains to do it.

[]--- ICA knew all this for 30 months in jail, but assisted her own framing by complimenting GA on the phone, and not reporting GA's diabolical actions.

[]--- After the pool accident, ICA was willing to let GA stop her from giving Caylee a proper burial, without reporting him.

:nono: :sumo: cguru:

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I follow you, for sure...but what if it was chloroform? an overdose would surely be manslaughter, no? You know, an accident so bad, it would put her in jail anyway?

EXACTLY and that is the answer to the whole question of "why wait 3 years". Good God, I just answered that question in my head after racking my brain.

They (the defense) had to wait to see exactly what evidence the state had BEFORE they could admit and "accident". I think Casey's definition of an accident, and the legal definition of an accident is two different things. If she had admitted in the beginning it was an accident, and it was discovered that there was choloroform detected in Caylee's bones, the she would have admitted to murder.
BINGO! It was an accident alright, an accidental overdose of choloroform. Her own actions of rotting in jail for 3 years proves that.

 

[cluciano63]

I am personally giving them time. It's a little more complicated than O.J. for one O.J. had money and also O.J.s and Rons next of Kin, were suing. Will the law permit the grandparents to have standing in a civil suit? I know grandparents were given certain rights but to sue someone who is indigent. Casey will have to pay IRS first and then the state, then whoever else has judgements. So I'm going to wait and see.

From what I read on the legal thread, only parents or spouse can file...not grandparents, not aunts or uncles...at least in Florida.

 

[Controversialist]

I wonder exactly what items were found at the discovery site that link directly back to the Anthony home.

"Link directly back" means LE believes that these items were at the Anthony home before they ended up with Caylee at the discovery site.

IIRC, knowing this would limit the possible candidates for putting Caylee in the swamp to ICA, GA, and LA.

I recall:

[]--- Caylee's clothes
[]--- The garbage bags
[]--- The matching laundry bag
[]--- The Henkel duct tape
[]--- The fourth duct tape item

Was it ever shown that the discovery site garbage bags, or the fourth piece of duct tape, for example, were definitely from the Anthony's home?

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