LINative13
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Manorville is a stone cold serial killer. Fact.
Manorville is a stone cold serial killer. Fact.
I'm just going to make a little list and ask you to consider the forest as opposed to the trees:
LLCs
Motels (used for escorts, prostitution, etc.) owned by people connected to the LLCs
Connected to businesses
Connected to Real estate investments
Connected to the construction of said projects
Straw deals using the bottom of the ladder folks for names to put on the the deeds or to live at the properties and to use those addresses to associate with other businesses that are...
Connected to:
Florida (specifically Central Florida)
LI
NYC
The Wilmington area of NC (The East Coast Hollywood)
Connected to:
Dance Clubs, DJs, Club Girls, Strip Clubs, Escort Services
Connected to:
The Pimps, the Victims, the drivers, the body guards, the residents in the properties owned by someone connected to the managers within these LLC and their clients.
AND FINALLY to lots of people (not the business owners or partners) who get arrested and or wind up dead either by obvious murder or suggested suicides.
Of course right on the fringes of all of this are the crooked public officials and the well known sophisticates and their celebrity friends.
ITA with Hawk....there is no serial killer per se. There are simply common dumping grounds for those who have somehow fallen out of favor with the organizations they managed to get entangled with.
The big wigs that wind up dead "seem to" commit suicides and the people that are used at the bottom of the ladder either end up in jail or murdered. JMHO, of course.
Not even one organization, necessarily, but simply "business as usual," perhaps.
I agree, Manorville is different. I'm generally referring to GB4 and their associates, AC4, Daytona Beach, Wilmington, NC, Philadelphia and possibly West Mesa.
I can't help thinking that West Mesa has something to do with Epstein, the Investment mogul (who never went to business school) who avoided serious repercussions re: underage girls that he stocked his mansion with and the older females who have recounted some very creepy stories about the once golden boy of Wall Street. I have wondered if any of those women found buried inWest Mesa may have worked at the Epstein Mansion.some "experts" believe AC4/Wilmington are linked(possibly daytona)--philly has multiples active, but one has been picked up ( RODRIGUEZ)
West Mesa is still up in the air--Many believe Montoya was the main sk, possibly working with Reynolds--very likely on a team effort, but questions remain (at least for me)--the dump site only had bodies from 2003 through 2005, nothing prior to 2003 or from 2006--has to be another dump site--Montoya lived to close to that dump site for it to be his alone, possibly he shared it--then there is that Joplin photographer--yikes--but he was verified to be in joplin during 2004 when some of the girls went missing
One of the most compelling threads at this time to me due to fred&edna's post - and others'- in the SG Possible victim thread. Check out especially page 4 ff .
The question arises, is there a possibility, that LISK is not a serial killer, but just a "dumper" for another entity interested in silencing the victims? Did SG get away unplanned and eventually succumbed to her surroundings? What do you think? And why do you think so?
-Nin
YES, and a lot depends on how you define a serial killer. I pretty much always leaned to what you seem to be suggesting.One of the most compelling threads at this time to me due to fred&edna's post - and others'- in the SG Possible victim thread. Check out especially page 4 ff .
The question arises, is there a possibility, that LISK is not a serial killer, but just a "dumper" for another entity interested in silencing the victims? Did SG get away unplanned and eventually succumbed to her surroundings? What do you think? And why do you think so?
-Nin
Who benefited from the killings?
the killer who got off on watching others suffer. What a sadist act of pure evil.
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With two of the dead girls having been told to leave their phones at home and they did it, I had thought of the possibility that they thought they were meeting a cop, someone in a trust position. I had figured he didn't have to BE a cop, just say he was one to get them to leave their phones behind and trust them.
It is my opinion the gb4 were not meant to be found and placed by a local or former lOcal due to the knowledge that they were less likely to be found being placed between hemlock cove and the old coast guard station. Jmho
In Nevada when it was intended for a body to never be found they would simply dig a hole in the desert. Knowing how deserted that stretch of Ocean Parkway can be and how loose the sand is on the South side of the road, why not dig a hole in the sand at the base of the dunes?
Or better yet, why not use a small boat or skiff to take the bodies over to any of the dozens of deserted islands along the State Channel and around the bay?
The only person likely to have benefited from killing was a serial killer who enjoyed torturing and killing prostitutes for whatever reasons he had in his sick twisted mind. How much money would they have had on them and why not just rob them? Who would they complain to? However if he was supplying girls for snuff films or parties where the girls were tortured or killed and then disposed of, he probably could have made quite a bit of money. Am I making sense?
The making of snuff films for money has been one of my strongest hunches. I feel you on this theory redbird.
Great work, guys. You're really covering all your bases. However, I'm not sure this Ruiz guy quite fits into this whole thing. I think somewhere on or near Long Island there's a killer. He may be on hiatus, but he's not done yet. He used technology to meet girls that most people wouldn't care about should they go missing. He didn't recreate the wheel by choosing prostitutes as his targets. He's feeling the heat that the media has created, but I think he knows that LE doesn't have any serious leads pointing in his direction. I just think the calls to the sister of Melissa Barthelemy are definitive "proof" (if you can use such a word here) that it's one sick individual who is responsible for the GB4 and possibly others. As always, just my opinion.