Who molested/abused Jonbenet?

[DeeDee249]

Just my :twocents: but I'm a nurse in Ortho and in my line of work we see a lot of chronic elements and normally in the medical field chronic is more than 3 months.

That may be different when it comes to forensics. In the case of the autopsy findings, chronic meant more than once. Acute meant that it happened at or near the time of death.

 

[Landonsmom02]

That may be different when it comes to forensics. In the case of the autopsy findings, chronic meant more than once. Acute meant that it happened at or near the time of death.

Yes I understand what Chronic and acute mean. My point was I dislike when people try to say that JBR wasn't abused prior to her death (meaning before the night of the attack) and that the paintbrush assault was the only injury to her private area.

 

[DeeDee249]

Yes I understand what Chronic and acute mean. My point was I dislike when people try to say that JBR wasn't abused prior to her death (meaning before the night of the attack) and that the paintbrush assault was the only injury to her private area.

I agree. I dislike it too.

 

[allysasaurus]

Is there any meat to the mention of JB riding her new bike all morning the day of her death?
I know from personal exp. that sometimes you can get bruising and pinch marks after riding when you havent in a while, or in JBs case, have only rode a few times.
I also would like to hear any recent thoughts on burke touching her in the year leading up to her death. I feel like i remember reading about kids being curious about what eachother have down there....

 

[UKGuy]

Is there any meat to the mention of JB riding her new bike all morning the day of her death?
I know from personal exp. that sometimes you can get bruising and pinch marks after riding when you havent in a while, or in JBs case, have only rode a few times.
I also would like to hear any recent thoughts on burke touching her in the year leading up to her death. I feel like i remember reading about kids being curious about what eachother have down there....

allysasaurus,
LHP the housekeeper walked in on JonBenet and Burke on more than one occassion where they were engaged in whatever beneath the bedcovers.

IMO JonBenet and Burke had something going on in the year leading up to her death. James Kolar has a more analytic view on this subject, where he offers psychological insights, etc.

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[DeeDee249]

Is there any meat to the mention of JB riding her new bike all morning the day of her death?
I know from personal exp. that sometimes you can get bruising and pinch marks after riding when you havent in a while, or in JBs case, have only rode a few times.
I also would like to hear any recent thoughts on burke touching her in the year leading up to her death. I feel like i remember reading about kids being curious about what eachother have down there....

JB did NOT get the injuries found in the autopsy from riding her bike.

 

[allysasaurus]

I personally think her mother was douching her. But just fleshing out thoughts either way.

 

[UKGuy]

allysasaurus,
LHP the housekeeper walked in on JonBenet and Burke on more than one occassion where they were engaged in whatever beneath the bedcovers.

IMO JonBenet and Burke had something going on in the year leading up to her death. James Kolar has a more analytic view on this subject, where he offers psychological insights, etc.

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allysasaurus,
Thought I would add to this that JonBenet and Burke would scream at LHP to get out of the room and leave them alone, like whatever was going on was normal!

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[allysasaurus]

How gross!

 

[OliviaG1996]

allysasaurus,
Thought I would add to this that JonBenet and Burke would scream at LHP to get out of the room and leave them alone, like whatever was going on was normal!

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Did LHP ever tell PR or JR about that unusual activity? Maybe that was the reason for the paintbrush part of the staging process.

 

[DeeDee249]

I personally think her mother was douching her. But just fleshing out thoughts either way.

Supposedly it was one of Patsy's friends that said that Patsy used to douche JB because she felt that wetting and soiling in her pants were causing her infections. As far as the infections- I don't think it was ever stated definitively whether they were yeast or some other type of bacterial infection. Yeast infections are not something healthy children get, as the hormones and secretions in the vagina are not yet in place for that kind of environment. But any kid can get a bacterial infection from wearing undies or pull-ups that are always wet or have fecal matter next to the vaginal area for any amount of time can cause one.

 

[southernmimi]

Using a douche on a six year old child? Combined with other information, it makes me wonder what all went on in that strange household.

 

[allysasaurus]

It was common in the 90s for women to think using store bought douches was safe. Now most women know that the chemicals and perfumes that are in them are doing more harm than good. Vaginas are like self cleaning ovens. All you need is warm water. However, she could have been using a reusable douche bag with just water, which is safe. But the standard nozzle is made for adult women, longer than the length of a 6 yr olds vagina, hence the partial tearing of her Hymen

 

[allysasaurus]

I dont believe the insertion of the paintbrush was to cover previous sexual abuse, i simply think the parents/stagers were definately going for a intruder cover.... what better way to make it look like a crazy pedo hurt her.... shove something up there.

 

[andreww]

I dont believe the insertion of the paintbrush was to cover previous sexual abuse, i simply think the parents/stagers were definately going for a intruder cover.... what better way to make it look like a crazy pedo hurt her.... shove something up there.

I can go along with that theory. But it makes me wonder why the wiping would have been necessary? Somebody wanted to make sure that area was clean. Why?

 

[allysasaurus]

I think her parents wiped her body because they needed to make sure nothing to get traced back to them. Spit(from talking over her body) sweat (from carrying her).... there could havr been lots of stuff on her. So the parents wiped her off redressed her and left her down there. They werent expecting patsys fiber evidence....

 

[allysasaurus]

It was common in the 90s for women to think using store bought douches was safe. Now most women know that the chemicals and perfumes that are in them are doing more harm than good. Vaginas are like self cleaning ovens. All you need is warm water. However, she could have been using a reusable douche bag with just water, which is safe. But the standard nozzle is made for adult women, longer than the length of a 6 yr olds vagina, hence the partial tearing of her Hymen

I should have used, and hence. Ha.

 

[UKGuy]

I should have used, and hence. Ha.

allysasaurusk,
I reckon not using the conjunction and is much more elegant, you could also just have said so the partial ... etc.

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[UKGuy]

Did LHP ever tell PR or JR about that unusual activity? Maybe that was the reason for the paintbrush part of the staging process.

OliviaG1996,
Not that I'm aware of. There was something going on between JonBenet and Burke, and some friends were going to talk to Patsy about the mega-jonBenet thing. From memory sleepovers were held at the ramsey house regularly, where Burke would host his friends, I also assume this happened iin reverse, say Burke stayed over at say the Stine's?

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[allysasaurus]

allysasaurusk,
I reckon not using the conjunction and is much more elegant, you could also just have said so the partial ... etc.

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Im not sure if you followed my joke..haha
I wouldnt normally use ,and hence unlike the Ramsey family.