Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #34

[cluciano63]

They aren't celibate by choice.

Gee, wonder why

 

[PommyMommy]

Jayme Closs kidnap: Man in custody named as Jake Thomas Patterson | Daily Mail Online

• Jake Thomas Patterson is in custody on two charges of first degree intentional homicide in the deaths of Jayme's parents and one count of kidnapping
• Jayme Closs, 13, was found alive in Douglas County, Wisconsin
• She was abducted from her home in October, when her parents were murdered
• Police now say she was 'targeted' but that there was no previous contact
• Barron County Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald say unemployed Patterson 'planned his actions and took many steps to hide his identity'
• Patterson's neighbor says she didn't know he was living in the house and hadn't seen Jayme around
• Jayme located in town of Gordon 70 miles from her home Barron, Wisconsin
• Teen described by couple as 'skinny, dirty and wearing shoes too big for her feet'
• Kristin and Peter Kasinskas said teen declined food but seemed 'outwardly OK'
• Jayme said 'who she believed had her' and spoke about 'being locked up'
• Her relieved family have said she 'is talking and doing very well'
• Barron County Sheriff said the killer was in the Closs home for only four minutes
• Killer went a few feet into house, shot James and Denise Closs and took Jayme
• Both Denise and James died 'instantly' of their wounds, the sheriff said

 

[BRRI]

So I need to look further, but was the house in foreclosure? Looks like Superior Choice is related to the title on 14166, as of October 23, 2018

 

[rogue ant]

Maybe they played Fortnite together? He stalked her?

Also... she wasn't found. She saved herself. Raise your girls to be strong fighters! She gets the credit for this. There were no tips leading to her.

1000x this. The presser was uncomfortable to sit through. I've no doubt LE worked tirelessly, etc, etc, but this girl saved herself.

No, this isn't "venom" aimed at LE, but they could have ratcheted the self congratulations down a notch, in this case.

 

[Becky Starkey]

It’s early but I agree, he seems like a classic incel. I wish the government would say what a threat there is from extremists in this country, but they sure like to keep it buttoned up. Same kind of guys who join Isis, just a different ideology and not considered a threat.

The Government tried back when Obama was President, but certain people in this country threw their usual hissy fit and the studies and reports were put to bed.

 

[Doghairrules]

View attachment 163694
Screengrab of first image of perp, Jake Thomas Patterson.

Now that I’ve seen that, he looks exactly how you expect him to look.

 

[Captainhenry]

Wow this thread is moving fast I dont know how you guys keep up!
Very interested to see what is to come at 4pm. Quite the story, I hope she gets all the support she needs and her family as well. They're in for alot of inquisitive invasive questions from fairweather friends.

 

[MCDRAW]

( I had no idea what this was either until @human brought this up re: a mass shooter in another thread.)

The first comment I thought someone spelled something wrong. LOL Then I saw it again.

 

[Msskeptic]

I don’t think he looks old at all. The balding throws one off but his face looks like an immature teen.

His head looks oddly small. Microphcephaly?

 

[MOTORUNNER]

Not sure if anyone here has been on the Incel thread over on reddit but it is scary and sad. There's death threats and often a lot of talk of ways to commit suicide, harm themselves. Not sure why Reddit still allows the sub. Don't care who I offend, I think men are the enemy in this day and age.

 

[Ragnarok]

No way am I able to keep up with these posts.

 

[Wells]

For those who are criticizing law enforcement's comments at the press conference, unless you have been in their shoes please don't. In this day and age, LE is criticized harshly for basically doing their job. And rarely do they receive acknowledgement for the incredible sacrifices they make. It is appropriate for them to acknowledge and support each other, and IMO that is what they were doing at the PC. Not as a "Hey, we're great, and we solved this case on our own" kind of thing, but as a demonstration of respect and acknowledgement to each other for the tremendous efforts they have all put forth for Jayme. The Thin Blue Line brotherhood understands the toll a case like this takes on an LEO, and IMO they are simply acknowledging the endless hours, sleepless nights, unbelievably high frustration, and frankly, totally unexpected glorious outcome. The fact that they did this does not take away from anyone else. It does not change or diminish the fact that Jayme was her own hero. LE sees an inordinate amount of tragedy, heartbreak, and darkness throughout their careers. No one requests LE because they are having a good day. Allow them this brief time of light. And please remember that while Jayme's case has come to the conclusion that everyone has been hoping and praying for, all of these LE professionals are likely currently working on multiple cases that will not. If they read these threads, and some of them probably do, your words serve no purpose but to hurt and discourage. They need and deserve our support and encouragement. Please.

I can't speak for anyone else but two of my very good friends are in law enforcement. Both of them were in my wedding. We can criticize law enforcement for how they handled aspects of the press conference and still be very, very supportive of their efforts and law enforcement in general. The two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[PommyMommy]

I do wonder what that "tie to Barron County" was ?

Me too, Cody. And they better not make us wait until trial. I want to know today at 4 pm, dang it!
MOO

 

[gregjrichards]

Hi a newbie here and following Jayme's case. Celebrating here from the Philippines!!!
Praise the Lord!!! Welcome home Jayme!
its 1:20 AM here now.

A warm welcome to Websleuths. Thank you for caring about Jayme and for joining us.

I've been reading this thread since the beginning, but haven't posted before or visited recently as nothing new has come about in the case. When Kare11 broke the news last night I got chills. This is unbelievably great news, and I never thought this would be the outcome.

Welcome to Websleuths shelbsmom1. Thank you for caring about Jayme and for joining us.

 

[Saribella]

Not sure if anyone here has been on the Incel thread over on reddit but it is scary and sad. There's death threats and often a lot of talk of ways to commit suicide, harm themselves. Not sure why Reddit still allows the sub. Don't care who I offend, I think men are the enemy in this day and age.

Somehow down the line, they were taught that they were entitled to anything. I think it might be a generational or parenting thing more than a gender/sex thing.

 

[gingerbeard757]

Can you link?

I cannot. Violation of TOS.

 

[lonetraveler]

And also congratulating themselves!?

I hope they reveal more of how he targeted her for us parents to learn how our own kids may be targets.

Exactly! If he targeted her and planned this out there absolutely had to have been contact in some way. He found her and chose her from somewhere.

 

[margarita25]

(I’m going to admit I’m part of this angry mob mentality. Just sayin. Of course I will respect the rules here. I can’t believe someone could do something like this, the selfishness and evil of this, just, unfathomable.

I think what hurts me most about all of this is that he killed her parents.

Again I’m too emotional to speak or post clearly.)

 

[whatsherface]

I keep thinking of that 80’s movie ‘Without a trace’......When they found the kid, there was a huge police escort to get him back home that grew each jurisdiction. Gave me chills of joy... I know Jayme wasn’t far... But I still would like to be in that escort.

 

[Becky Starkey]

For those who are criticizing law enforcement's comments at the press conference, unless you have been in their shoes please don't. In this day and age, LE is criticized harshly for basically doing their job. And rarely do they receive acknowledgement for the incredible sacrifices they make. It is appropriate for them to acknowledge and support each other, and IMO that is what they were doing at the PC. Not as a "Hey, we're great, and we solved this case on our own" kind of thing, but as a demonstration of respect and acknowledgement to each other for the tremendous efforts they have all put forth for Jayme. The Thin Blue Line brotherhood understands the toll a case like this takes on an LEO, and IMO they are simply acknowledging the endless hours, sleepless nights, unbelievably high frustration, and frankly, totally unexpected glorious outcome. The fact that they did this does not take away from anyone else. It does not change or diminish the fact that Jayme was her own hero. LE sees an inordinate amount of tragedy, heartbreak, and darkness throughout their careers. No one requests LE because they are having a good day. Allow them this brief time of light. And please remember that while Jayme's case has come to the conclusion that everyone has been hoping and praying for, all of these LE professionals are likely currently working on multiple cases that will not. If they read these threads, and some of them probably do, your words serve no purpose but to hurt and discourage. They need and deserve our support and encouragement. Please.

They aren't criticized for "doing their job", if and when they are criticized, it's because they are doing their job in a bad manner. There are lots of problems in this country because LE aren't doing their jobs in the correct manner and people just put them on a pedestal and don't take a critical eye at how they do their jobs. Certainly not all of them, and not all the time. But blind admiration just because they are LE helps nothing or no one.

 

[Angleterre]

For those who are criticizing law enforcement's comments at the press conference, unless you have been in their shoes please don't. In this day and age, LE is criticized harshly for basically doing their job. And rarely do they receive acknowledgement for the incredible sacrifices they make. It is appropriate for them to acknowledge and support each other, and IMO that is what they were doing at the PC. Not as a "Hey, we're great, and we solved this case on our own" kind of thing, but as a demonstration of respect and acknowledgement to each other for the tremendous efforts they have all put forth for Jayme. The Thin Blue Line brotherhood understands the toll a case like this takes on an LEO, and IMO they are simply acknowledging the endless hours, sleepless nights, unbelievably high frustration, and frankly, totally unexpected glorious outcome. The fact that they did this does not take away from anyone else. It does not change or diminish the fact that Jayme was her own hero. LE sees an inordinate amount of tragedy, heartbreak, and darkness throughout their careers. No one requests LE because they are having a good day. Allow them this brief time of light. And please remember that while Jayme's case has come to the conclusion that everyone has been hoping and praying for, all of these LE professionals are likely currently working on multiple cases that will not. If they read these threads, and some of them probably do, your words serve no purpose but to hurt and discourage. They need and deserve our support and encouragement. Please.

My thoughts entirely as I posted earlier ! Thankyou x