AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

[thx4_medic_Babby]

How reliable is the radaronline website? I've always been curious why law enforcement refused to let the Closs' family hear the 911 call, but this website mentions that via the call you can hear Jayme screaming for help -- which could be a shock for the family.

However, IMO, this also means the call is a little more clear than is being claimed.

 

[The Dude]

How reliable is the radaronline website? I've always been curious why law enforcement refused to let the Closs' family hear the 911 call, but this website mentions that via the call you can hear Jayme screaming for help -- which could be a shock for the family.

However, IMO, this also means the call is a little more clear than is being claimed.

Radar makes DailyMail look like Reuters...

 

[ilovechili]

I wonder what became of this strange call? Or the report from the woman who had the strange encounter at diner?


On day 11 of search for Jayme Closs, Barron residents remain vigilant

I believe this was asked of the sheriff and I think it was in the Dryden interview. I believe he said they followed up on it and acted as if they had dismissed it. I can't swear to it however.

 

[The Dude]

https://wilenet.org/html/cib/manuals-forms/forms/2018 Basic and Mobile Handout Final WILENET.pdf

This looks like a fine, cozy read on a Saturday night.

 

[The Dude]

I believe this was asked of the sheriff and I think it was in the Dryden interview. I believe he said they followed up on it and acted as if they had dismissed it. I can't swear to it however.

Yeah, I don’t remember exactly either, but I think it was that they weren’t “keen” on it right now.

 

[chili367]

Before anyone even decides that is what I meant, it is not in any way what I meant. I am talking about the news orgs, not LE messing with it. And there was an unredacted one released and I always wondered if it was meant to be and after that, some news sites did redact certain things off of that one. Then there was a redacted one released. And some news orgs simply retyped entries themselves in their reporting or so it looked.

It's a pdf file of scanned images. No one is going to easily change those. There is no typing here.

(A fan, ilovechili, but I don't think this dog will hunt...)

 

[Wrenny]

A screen grab showing the front doorway. I don't think I've seen this view before now.

UPDATE: Sheriff: Missing girl was in home at the time of the murders

I haven't seen that view either! That's not the door it's a piece of wafer board. At 59 seconds you can see the door itself is still leaned inside the doorway. This must be when they were in the process of removing the doors, putting up the waferboard and the blue whatever-it-is.

 

[chili367]

i brought up this possibility early on. i was wondering if it was supposed to be 7 minutes AHEAD and not behind. 12:45 would make more sense of course. i don't think there was further discussion of it because people were telling me no, it would've been 12:31 and no one else was questioning it so i accepted that i missed the source for it somewhere and just moved on.

How early? I discussed this a couple of times many threads ago -- I believe I also referenced this earlier in this very thread.

As I've said, I'm not sold on the timeline and believe the "7 minutes off" could be +7 instead of -7. It's been discussed.

 

[ilovechili]

https://wilenet.org/html/cib/manuals-forms/forms/2018 Basic and Mobile Handout Final WILENET.pdf

Thank you. You did not give a hint which one out of 140 pages lol but I found NWAR pretty quickly considering. Page 19 if anyone else wants to look (in numbered pages), I think it was page 23 overall. I appreciate you providing this.

 

[The Dude]

It's a pdf file of scanned images. No one is going to easily change those. There is no typing here.

(A fan, ilovechili, but I don't think this dog will hunt...)

Huh? - nevermind... in before your edit.

 

[chili367]

Huh? - nevermind... in before your edit.

Hey, I like you, too, Dude!

 

[Wrenny]

i brought up this possibility early on. i was wondering if it was supposed to be 7 minutes AHEAD and not behind. 12:45 would make more sense of course. i don't think there was further discussion of it because people were telling me no, it would've been 12:31 and no one else was questioning it so i accepted that i missed the source for it somewhere and just moved on.

Ok well... 2 of us agree..

 

[ilovechili]

How early? I discussed this a couple of times many threads ago -- I believe I also referenced this earlier in this very thread.

As I've said, I'm not sold on the timeline and believe the "7 minutes off" could be +7 instead of -7. It's been discussed.

Most people set their bedroom clocks ahead not behind. If set ahead as most do, (to be early rather than late) then it would be -7. We may never know but it is pretty hard to believe the neighbors don't know if they have checked the clock even once since, whether it is ahead or behind It makes far more sense to me that it was set ahead. Which leaves the same old issues with these gunshots and when they were heard, if they were heard and how it fits in.

 

[MesquiteO21]

How early? I discussed this a couple of times many threads ago -- I believe I also referenced this earlier in this very thread.

As I've said, I'm not sold on the timeline and believe the "7 minutes off" could be +7 instead of -7. It's been discussed.

i think pretty much right when it came out...and totally possible i missed subsequent discussions and theories about it. hard to keep up with all the threads! and i've also signed off for a few days here and there since it can get frustrating and just continuously heartbreaking with nothing new coming out.

 

[chili367]

i think pretty much right when it came out...and totally possible i missed subsequent discussions and theories about it. hard to keep up with all the threads! and i've also signed off for a few days here and there since it can get frustrating and just continuously heartbreaking with nothing new coming out.

Same here and understood. Impossible to follow all these threads!

 

[The Dude]

Most people set their bedroom clocks ahead not behind. If set ahead as most do, (to be early rather than late) then it would be -7. We may never know but it is pretty hard to believe the neighbors don't know if they have checked the clock even once since, whether it is ahead or behind It makes far more sense to me that it was set ahead. Which leaves the same old issues with these gunshots and when they were heard, if they were heard and how it fits in.

I gave up trying to make sense of this timeline. What still bothers me is that this is the only thing (that we know of) that resembles any form of having witnesses, yet it seems to have just been discarded. If it’s because they just gave up trying to figure it out, I’m not sure how excited we should be about the rest of the investigation. *shrug*

 

[ilovechili]

I gave up trying to make sense of this timeline. What still bothers me is that this is the only thing (that we know of) that resembles any form of having witnesses, yet it seems to have just been discarded. If it’s because they just gave up trying to figure it out, I’m not sure how excited we should be about the rest of the investigation. *shrug*

Pretty much sums it up. There really isn't anything. One neighbor's account (which seems not to fit). We had the cars for awhile, they seem discarded as well. Frustrating and heartbreaking as a few others just said.

 

[Wrenny]

Thank you. You did not give a hint which one out of 140 pages lol but I found NWAR pretty quickly considering. Page 19 if anyone else wants to look (in numbered pages), I think it was page 23 overall. I appreciate you providing this.

Well the whole thing is fun reading, right?

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Yeah - brown jacket interview, right? That’s because we slipped you shrooms instead of LSD.

Brown jacket, or tan pullover hoodie?

 

[ilovechili]

Well the whole thing is fun reading, right?

lol, actually I skimmed a bit of it and i think it is a worthwhile manual to save for future use and reference. i mean that seriously, thank you.