based on?
She was a cancer survivor?
based on?
based on?
My grandma had lung cancer, got chemo, beat it, kept smoking anyway.She was a cancer survivor?
based on?
My grandma had lung cancer, got chemo, beat it, kept smoking anyway.
So I dont think thats a definitive link
What if she pulled off the road to sneak a smoke?
I doubt she was a smoker for several reasons. One, she was a cancer survivor. Two, she came from a family of athletic coaches, who are generally into healthy living & likely would frown upon their mother/wife smoking & want her to quit, for her health. Three, she was a FT teacher &, as another poster mentioned above, smoking isn’t allowed on or in view of many school campuses, so FT teaching makes smoking a hard habit to keep up. Four, in all of the social media & many photos I’ve perused, including photos from social functions, there is not a single photo of her smoking. Obviously, these things don’t offer proof, but they make me lean toward the non-smoker end of the spectrum.
Why would she pull off her usual route, drive to a stranger’s driveway, all of this 8-9 hours after she’d left home & was expected somewhere, to sneak a smoke? I’ve never smoked, but don’t most smokers just light up & smoke while driving?
I just came upon this thread today and quickly read through all the pages. A couple questions I have (I am leaning toward not a suicide at this point)...
Is the driveway where the car was found obviously a driveway from the road, or because it's so wooded, could it look like a desolate side road for someone not from there?
If it is obviously a driveway, I wonder why the perp(s) would choose to dump the car there and set it on fire, as it is more likely the homeowners would see/hear something (unless they were possibly trying to "frame" or point fingers at the homeowners randomly).
Who called in the fire?
MOO I think it may have been a random crime of opportunity. I agree that leaving so early before the game, she probably planned to stop and run some errands. So if she was abducted/carjacked in the middle of the afternoon, what would happen for the hours until the car was found aflame? She could have been taken somewhere and been sexually assaulted repeatedly (I hate typing this out, but it is a possibility). She could have been killed somewhere almost immediately but the perp(s) were deciding what to do about having her body and car and decided to wait until awhile after nightfall to dump them.
I think there could have been a second perp/vehicle that followed to the dump scene, or if there was a gas station so close by, the perp could have ran there after lighting the car on fire and then either called a friend to come pick him up or a cab, etc. All MOO of course.
There was a gas station nearby and a monthly stay, run down hotel. Yes, off her normal path, but as I mentioned in a previous post, would be quite possible for the perp to be staying there and walk back to hotel or have had his rig/truck parked at the truck stop nearby.
It's possible I'm missing something but haven't seen the family or others in general (not including here) demanding answers or justice like I do in others cases where foul play is likely. Also I see absolutely no update from LE (not even addressing that the public isn't in danger) so that makes me lean towards self harm.2 states, 2 counties, 2 cities, 2 jurisdictions, 1 Mom. This has to be complex to pull together with many different policies, procedures & laws. The radio silence from LE tells me they are carefully dotting all their i’s and crossing all their t’s. Once everything is in place, it’s going to stick. Prayers to the family for patience and justice for Kathleen.
And that same reasoning makes me lean towards known perp. Either way this family’s loss is heartbreaking.It's possible I'm missing something but haven't seen the family or others in general (not including here) demanding answers or justice like I do in others cases where foul play is likely. Also I see absolutely no update from LE (not even addressing that the public isn't in danger) so that makes me lean towards self harm.
You really thinks so. I can't see that. She had 3 sons in their late 20's possibly a 30 year old. They are probably busy with their lives and don't want to go in front of a tv camera, husband is not there (separated?)They are probably leaving it up to the authorities. I could be wrong.And that same reasoning makes me lean towards known perp. Either way this family’s loss is heartbreaking.
You really thinks so. I can't see that. She had 3 sons in their late 20's possibly a 30 year old. They are probably busy with their lives and don't want to go in front of a tv camera, husband is not there (separated?)They are probably leaving it up to the authorities. I could be wrong.![]()
I think you misinterpreted Kay's comment...no one is questioning that the family absolutely adored her...Everyone knows that. IMHO some of us think the family and LE might not be demanding answers/justice because there is perhaps reason to think it may have been self harm. If not usually you see the family being more vocal in the media. This is in no way meant to be negative towards the family...we are just theorizing based on many other cases/outcomes in the past. As was mentioned, regardless of the reason... It is absolutely heartbreaking. May Ms. Ryan rest in peace.Her sons adored her. One of her grandkids is even her namesake. I can’t begin to imagine their total heartbreak & devastation. If anyone wants answers & justice, I am 1,000% percent sure it is them, most of all.
It must be agony just to wake up & put one foot in front of the other for all of them. It breaks my heart.
I can tell from the media reports about her she was very loved, highly respected and genuinely a kind lady. While I believe the perp was known to her, that’s doesn’t mean I necessarily think it was her family. This was a violent crime by someone angry. She likely had no known enemies, at least not outwardly known. Jealousy, resentment and rage can explode after simmering for years. People keep up appearances for a long time, until they just can’t anymore. Then they formulate they’re revenge for whatever perceived wrong they think was the truth.Her sons adored her. One of her grandkids is even her namesake. I can’t begin to imagine their total heartbreak & devastation. If anyone wants answers & justice, I am 1,000% percent sure it is them, most of all.
It must be agony just to wake up & put one foot in front of the other for all of them. It breaks my heart.