WI WI - Kelly Nolan, 22, Madison, 23 Jun 2007 #2

[scorpionsting]

The various agencies who were at the Kelly Nolan crime scene:

University of Wisconsin Police Department/The Fitchburg Police Department/The Dane County 911 Center/The Madison Fire Department/The Dane County Sheriff's Department/The MATC Recruit Academy/The Mental Health Resource Team/The Green County Sheriff's Office/The Columbia County Sheriff's Office/The Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources/The Maple Bluff Police Department/Special Agents of the FBI/Retired Officer Advisory Resource (ROAR)/The Mount Horeb Police Department/The Town of Madison Police Department/The Wisconsin State Patrol/Dane County Emergency Management/The Wisconsin Department of Criminal Investigation/The Oregon Fire Department/The Verona Fire Department/The Dane County Coroner's Office/The Emergency Clinic for Animals/The Portage County Sheriff's Office/The State Crime Lab.

The above is what I posted as Tangledweb in WS post #168. Portage County does have an open homicide, (Janet Marie Raasch) but also has a person of interest who is a suspect in 5 homicides; three of them being Bonnie Marie Repinski, Tanna Marie Togstad and Timothy Mumbrue.

The latter three were not known by the general public (including me) to be associated with the POI until 2013 when his B Bar 10 property was searched in Portage County. Togstad and Mumbrue were stabbed to death in Waupaca County, WI in 1992 and Bonnie Marie Repinski disappeared in Winnebago County, WI. The suspect in the Janet Marie Raasch murder is from Waupaca County but did live in Hancock, Waushara County, WI at one time, just up the road from the Town of Dunn.

 

[Kell1]

The above is what I posted as Tangledweb in WS post #168. Portage County does have an open homicide, (Janet Marie Raasch) but also has a person of interest who is a suspect in 5 homicides; three of them being Bonnie Marie Repinski, Tanna Marie Togstad and Timothy Mumbrue.

The latter three were not known by the general public (including me) to be associated with the POI until 2013 when his B Bar 10 property was searched in Portage County. Togstad and Mumbrue were stabbed to death in Waupaca County, WI in 1992 and Bonnie Marie Repinski disappeared in Winnebago County, WI. The suspect in the Janet Marie Raasch murder is from Waupaca County but did live in Hancock, Waushara County, WI at one time, just up the road from the Town of Dunn.

Its possible they have links, and that's why theyre keeping it under wraps

 

[scorpionsting]

The area is well-known to people who ride horses in the area, DeSpain said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288727,00.html

Wray said cell-phone technology led police to mount a massive search Monday morning in the area where the body was found. The search focused on a 3-square-mile area around Fitchburg that included part of the neighboring village of Oregon, just off U.S. Highway 14.

Investigators were taking their time with the search for evidence because the area was so large and the death scene was described as complex. Stanley said investigators haven't even touched the body yet.

What's a complex death scene?

 

[Kell1]

What's a complex death scene?

Not sure, probably alluding to the fact it seems like an oddball murder , weird circumstances etc..

 

[scorpionsting]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10527197#post10527197


Post #58 on the above thread Togstad & Mumbrue...

 

[scorpionsting]

She would of known someone from class good enough for them to say they knew her and lure her away without her fighting it

Didn't the suspect say that he would take her home? The suspect would have to have known Kelly and to have known where Kelly lived in order to take her home. I'll add that to the other points about this suspect. That will be point number 12. Considering Kelly had just moved to Madison only a few people outside her family probably knew where she lived and could claim to know where she lived.

1) He may or may not have been interviewed by police
2) He definitely knew Kelly Nolan
3) His mother studied at UW-Whitewater
4) His grandfather was a professor at UW-Whitewater. (It would be interesting to know whether Kelly was in any of his classes)
5) He sports a goatee and has/had very long hair
6) He was about 21 at time of murder
7) He was a UW-Madison student at time of murder
8) He left Madison in 2008 to work in another city in Wisconsin
9) His name was briefly mentioned early on in news items related to the murder
10) He has family ties to relatives in Whitewater
11) His mother has ties to Yahara Hills Golf Course, which is 8.3 miles/15 minutes from the Town of Dunn where Kelly was found off Schneider Road
12) He had to know where Kelly lived in order to take her home

Did Kelly know how to ski and did she go skiing? Anybody know?

 

[kittycat3]

As a former drunk Madison student, I must say, if the perpetrator knew what He was doing, he could've maintained control even if he didn't know where she lived, if she was drunk enough. Just saying.

 

[scorpionsting]

As a former drunk Madison student, I must say, if the perpetrator knew what He was doing, he could've maintained control even if he didn't know where she lived, if she was drunk enough. Just saying.

I agree it can be fairly easy to manipulate someone who's very drunk, whether he was "guiding" her home or to his vehicle. The person I have in mind would have known where she lived and at least made her think he was taking her home. She was alive "somewhere" for 5 days and where she was found is on the way to where he lived.

What's awful to think about is that he/they had "control" of her for about five days before she died.

The death scene sounds pretty gruesome...

And if they could determine from a distance that the victim obviously was slain and she died from “homicidal violence,” “including blunt force trauma of torso with fractures,” and "yet another crime occurred there", there being where she was found, then it must have been something way out of the ordinary and possibly staged.

We can be sure of one thing; there's a monster still on the loose out there.

 

[kittycat3]

So the 5 day thing. What do we know about that? My understanding is that her death certificate shows date as 5 days after her disappearance. Have the police or media said more about this?

 

[scorpionsting]

So the 5 day thing. What do we know about that? My understanding is that her death certificate shows date as 5 days after her disappearance. Have the police or media said more about this?

All the articles I've read never specifically addressed the fact she was alive for five days nor speculated on what may have occurred in that time period.

 

[kittycat3]

Thanks sleuther. I hope that date is approximate and that Kelly did not suffer. As someone who has experienced living in Madison and it's debauchery, I have always disliked how the media focused on Kelly's drinking and past legal troubles with it. I consider myself lucky that myself or any number of my friends did not suffer the same fate, many nights it would not have been too difficult to take advantage of one of us. Still holding at hope that her killer will be found!

 

[giagreen]

This makes me sad. Did the 8th year of Kelly Nolan's murder come and pass? [emoji20]
I want to know who killed this young woman. I don't like the idea of a killer possibly in my area just walking free. Besides that Kelly deserves justice.

Maybe someone can help me here. But did her cell phone ping days after she went missing? Her phone wouldn't of stayed charged that long on its own. And why didn't it ping before. Maybe I am misunderstanding.
It just seems like it should be so obvious who killed her but apparently it isn't.

 

[pleasestandby]

This makes me sad. Did the 8th year of Kelly Nolan's murder come and pass? [emoji20]
I want to know who killed this young woman. I don't like the idea of a killer possibly in my area just walking free. Besides that Kelly deserves justice.

Maybe someone can help me here. But did her cell phone ping days after she went missing? Her phone wouldn't of stayed charged that long on its own. And why didn't it ping before. Maybe I am misunderstanding.
It just seems like it should be so obvious who killed her but apparently it isn't.

http://legalpublication.blogspot.com/2009/06/kelly-nolans-june-of-2007-murder.html

I don't buy the below statement about the cell phone ping. A nearby resident from the Triple K Stables said he had smelled a bad odor and mentioned it to a warden who called it in. It wasn't until then that they started the search in that area which was outside the actual stated search area. Why didn't they first search for her when she went missing using the cellphone pings? Why wait for two weeks? Did the killer(s) have her phone turned off, staged the body in the location where she was found and then turned the phone back on because they wanted her body to be found in a new location?

The location where her body was found wasn't within the 3 square mile area mentioned below

The area is well-known to people who ride horses in the area, DeSpain said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288727,00.html

Wray said cell-phone technology led police to mount a massive search Monday morning in the area where the body was found. The search focused on a 3-square-mile area around Fitchburg that included part of the neighboring village of Oregon, just off U.S. Highway 14.

I still suspect the person I mentioned in post #286. He knew Kelly and knew where she lived. (Only a handful of people could have known where she lived as she had just sublet the apartment)

He had ties to Whitewater. I also think it was significant she was found near a riding stable.

Nolan's last contact with anyone was a cell phone call to her sister in the early morning. Cell phone pings led police to search the area where they found her body on July 9, 2007.

Sounds staged to me...

And if they could determine from a distance that the victim obviously was slain and she died from “homicidal violence,” “including blunt force trauma of torso with fractures,” and "yet another crime occurred there" (there) being where she was found, then it must have been something way out of the ordinary and possibly staged.

 

[giagreen]

http://legalpublication.blogspot.com/2009/06/kelly-nolans-june-of-2007-murder.html

I don't buy the below statement about the cell phone ping. A nearby resident from the Triple K Stables said he had smelled a bad odor and mentioned it to a warden who called it in. It wasn't until then that they started the search in that area which was outside the actual stated search area. Why didn't they first search for her when she went missing using the cellphone pings? Why wait for two weeks? Did the killer(s) have her phone turned off, staged the body in the location where she was found and then turned the phone back on because they wanted her body to be found in a new location?

The location where her body was found wasn't within the 3 square mile area mentioned below



I still suspect the person I mentioned in post #286. He knew Kelly and knew where she lived. (Only a handful of people could have known where she lived as she had just sublet the apartment)

He had ties to Whitewater. I also think it was significant she was found near a riding stable.



Sounds staged to me...

It makes it sound like she was held for a few days then taken to that spot and killed there. Makes no sense to me.
Maybe the cell phone talk was to try and make the perp nerves cause that phone call to her sister?

 

[pleasestandby]

It makes it sound like she was held for a few days then taken to that spot and killed there. Makes no sense to me.
Maybe the cell phone talk was to try and make the perp nerves cause that phone call to her sister?

She disappeared on June 23, 2007, and her body was found July 9, 2007. Her death certificate shows the date of death as June 28. Based on that, I'd assume she was held alive for five days, somewhere, probably within that three mile radius around Fitchburg.

News reports state she was dragged 25 feet into the woods. If she was already dead when dragged into the woods, what would the "yet another crime occurred there" be?

she died from “homicidal violence,” “including blunt force trauma of torso with fractures,” and "yet another crime occurred there"

I believe the phone call was made to her sister while still at a bar or outside one of the bars around closing time before she left the downtown bar area with the unknown male. I'd assume it was a friend or acquaintance of Kelly who knew where she lived. She had just sublet an apartment so I'd think that wouldn't be a whole lot of people who fit that category.

When her friends decided to go home around 11:30 p.m., Kelly declined to go with them. She was, as they say, feeling no pain, and she wanted to continue partying.
Kelly left the Lava Lounge at bar time, around 2:00 a.m. on June 23rd. A male acquaintance began walking Kelly to her apartment, but they ran into another man on State Street who said he knew Kelly, so her escort left her. Around this time, Kelly called her sister, April, and told her where she was.

http://whokilledsarah.com/kellynolan.htm#.VapQbPlViko

Dane County Coroner John Stanley said the body's appearance and the evidence surrounding it led him to conclude that it was "probably the missing person we've been looking for, Kelly Nolan," and that she had been murdered.

 

[giagreen]

She disappeared on June 23, 2007, and her body was found July 9, 2007. Her death certificate shows the date of death as June 28. Based on that, I'd assume she was held alive for five days, somewhere, probably within that three mile radius around Fitchburg.

News reports state she was dragged 25 feet into the woods. If she was already dead when dragged into the woods, what would the "yet another crime occurred there" be?



I believe the phone call was made to her sister while still at a bar or outside one of the bars around closing time before she left the downtown bar area with the unknown male. I'd assume it was a friend or acquaintance of Kelly who knew where she lived. She had just sublet an apartment so I'd think that wouldn't be a whole lot of people who fit that category.



http://whokilledsarah.com/kellynolan.htm#.VapQbPlViko

How horrible. Thanks for the clarification. I wasnt sure If I was understanding that right.
And it sounds like she would of had to of been alive those five days. That's the crazy part to me. This all around just sounds out of the norm.

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

Bumping

I was reading a blog post about some of the unsolved cases in Madison. The author has a suspect in mind (may have been mentioned here previously) although the person's name is not revealed.

https://concernedcitizen912.wordpress.com/

 

[pleasestandby]

Bumping

I was reading a blog post about some of the unsolved cases in Madison. The author has a suspect in mind (may have been mentioned here previously) although the person's name is not revealed.

https://concernedcitizen912.wordpress.com/

Very interesting story. Side by side below are police sketches of the Jovin murderer and the Marino murderer. It would be interesting to know the age of that graduate student in the article

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

Very interesting story. Side by side below are police sketches of the Jovin murderer and the Marino murderer. It would be interesting to know the age of that graduate student in the article

I was trying to figure that out. If he was accepted into the the graduate program in 2002, then he may have been in his early to mid twenties. This would mean he was in his mid to late twenties at the time of Kelly's homicide.

Is the Marino homicide still open? The author was suggesting that the guy arrested and charged was framed, correct?

The suspect was the head of a charity organization at one point. If that's public information, maybe that would be a way to figure out who he might be.

 

[pleasestandby]

https://concernedcitizen912.wordpress.com/

There are other correlations; Kelly Nolan’s remains were found on private land owned by a woman who I believe was acquainted with the killer. This woman and my suspect both worked in the same department at the university. Tutoring. Specifically, English as a second language. Here too, I struggle to dismiss another coincidence.

JWBS, the above blog you posted states the killer worked with the owner of the property at the university and the blogger's theory conflicts with the facts in the news article below. Eleanor Killerlain, the owner of the property, was 84 when the body was found on her property. Quite old to be working at a university, IMO.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1863556/posts

Wray would not say exactly where the body was discovered, but Patricia Wardell, who lives at 4724 Schneider Road, said it was on the property of her neighbor, whom she identified as Eleanor Killerlain.

Wardell said Killerlain, who did not respond to a call for comment, is in her 80's and has owned the more than 20 acres of property for decades.