WI WI - LAKE GENEVA SUITCASE MURDERS, Laura Simonson & Jenny Gamez - #1

[STANDREID]

I believe she was 19 when she was killed...I'd have to find an article where I read that, though.

Was she on Charley Project? I haven't found her on there.

 

[OkieGranny]

Was she on Charley Project? I haven't found her on there.

Jenny was never reported missing.

 

[OkieGranny]

http://www.wral.com/2nd-suitcase-body-confirmed-as-oregon-woman/13776404/

An Oregon teenager identified Monday as one of two women whose bodies were found in suitcases in Wisconsin had a hard time after giving up her son to his father, but she was turning her life around and had won a college scholarship before she disappeared, her foster mother said...

Gamez had moved from her home in Cottage Grove, Oregon, to be closer to a community college about 20 miles north in Eugene. She lived with friends and visited her family, but eventually fell out of touch, said her foster mother, Lorraine Ericksen...

She said Gamez, who had been in foster care with numerous families since she was 5, "was a joy to be around." Gamez came to live with her about three years after she relinquished her parental rights of her son, and Ericksen said she helped her get through high school.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

This has made me think of the Kelly Dwyer case where LE pretty much know that something bad happened with her boyfriend that night and she never left the building out the front door, but possibly in a shower curtain and down a garbage shoot. But without a body, they can't do anything.

Wish there was a better way.

The Kelly Dwyer case is one of 'my' cases. When her case was unfolding, before it became clear she never left Zocco's building, a connection Kelly had to a man from Kenosha (she met online) came up in the media. During the same time period, a family man from Naperville (I think) was reported missing but it turns out he had been staying at a hotel in Kenosha.
Kenosha, Kenosha, Kenosha. What's going on in Kenosha?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

You'd think his lawyer would be taking them down.

Doesn't LE have possession of SZ's electronics?

 

[Cubby]

Pretty good article:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...s-ended-up-with-two-corpses-in-suitcases.html

How ‘MrHandcuffs’ Ended Up With Two Corpses in Suitcases

Former police officer Steven Zelich liked to go on S&M sites as ‘MrHandcuffs.’ Two of the women he found wound up dead. He says it was rough sex gone wrong.

Are there any other msm sources verifying LE searched SZ's West Allis apartment?

 

[prd2bokie]

Jenny was never reported missing.

I wonder why not.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

JMOO I think she was in the suitcase but very much alive. We've only heard his side of the story. Consenting sex gone bad......They said he left the motel alone. If he wanted a slave why kill her ASAP? Makes no sense to me.

LE isn't saying much probably afraid of the lawsuits. A good lawyer will destroy the LE Departments.

Cases like this one make me wonder about the perp's background. Sometimes they like killing women because they hate their mother, their father, their first love or wife. The end goal is to kill or grows into that.

Does SZ have living parents? He has a sister so maybe she can describe their upbringing to LE. Wonder if he has any hobbies other than sex related bondage stuff. Who was overbearing, mother or father or neither?

 

[carbuff]

If he went all the way to Oregon for Jenny, I wonder where else he traveled?

 

[seattlechiquita]

I wonder why not.

I believe because family knew she was moving? Might be wrong though. Still, 2 years later?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Get out of here -- he said that?!? Son of a...


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Same thing the defense is going to try to claim in the other case involving unconventional sex (Dwyer). That is if Zocco is ever charged (no body), even though dogs hit from his front door as well as the garbage chute at both ends, all the way to the parking lot and near to his car. The dogs were not confused.

 

[necco]

I believe because family knew she was moving? Might be wrong though. Still, 2 years later?

It sounds like maybe there was some communication issues in the family and some members thought she was with others who they didn't talk to. Or maybe they couldn't pinpoint where she was missing from so couldn't get PD to take a report. They IDed her pretty quick for her not being reported missing, so it sounds like there was someone looking for her.

 

[HauntsForHope]

Police say Gamez was confirmed as the second victim using dental records.
http://www.cbs58.com/news/local-new...case-identified-as-Jenny-Gamez-265257981.html

 

[seattlechiquita]

Pretty good article:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...s-ended-up-with-two-corpses-in-suitcases.html

How ‘MrHandcuffs’ Ended Up With Two Corpses in Suitcases

Former police officer Steven Zelich liked to go on S&M sites as ‘MrHandcuffs.’ Two of the women he found wound up dead. He says it was rough sex gone wrong.

Huh? How did Laura's friends knew about this keeping her caged? I am very intrigued by this.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

His regular username on B.com was MrHandcuffs. Other usernames, I'm not sure about. He was also on Alt.com as MrHandcuffs3. I had read profiles of his where he wanted to be the sub/slave but that wasn't when we were together. It was after I had left. It can be common to switch roles.

Are you sure about it is common to switch roles in S&M roles?
I've been on a few cases here where it seems like once a persona always a persona/preference. Like more commonly a guy is either a boob or an arse man or even toes! Go figure.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Police say Gamez was confirmed as the second victim using dental records.
http://www.cbs58.com/news/local-new...case-identified-as-Jenny-Gamez-265257981.html

Bob Bashara "Master Bob" (who had his wife murdered) advertised for a third party on a s&m site. He and his first slave were buying a house together and they wanted a third person, another slave as well. A woman from Oregon responded and was going to move to MI to fulfill the role. Before she could, his wife was murdered.
Their conversations were recorded on one of the sites and taken into evidence. The woman was called to testify during his pre-trial.

So here we have Oregon in the picture again.

 

[OkieGranny]

Foster mom recalls Jenny Gamez, missing Oregon woman found in suitcase

"She was an upbeat kid who wasn't afraid of trying new things, she even took a sculpture class. Other kids all loved her. We were pretty close and it was devastating what happened to her," Ericksen said.

"I'm also surprised she was involved with a man that age, it wasn't what she would do here," Ericksen added. "She never ran around with kids that were more than a year or two older than her."

 

[necco]

People have been using the "rough sex" defense for ages. Remember Robert Chambers?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

http://www.tribtown.com/view/story/fc4232e9e6054dd18a958ae87fa77fe4/US--Human-Remains-Suitcases

In real life Jenny was a cute young lady yet I can see the likeness to her in the hideous sketch. It ends up it wasn't a bad job afterall, weird. Also I noticed she sometimes wore her hair dark and sometimes she was blond. Neither color looked bad on her imo.
The blond made her look younger possibly but she was young. Maybe she wanted to look older.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

People have been using the "rough sex" defense for ages. Remember Robert Chambers?

No, can't say I do. Sounds familiar though.