Hello!
I am new here, and this is my first post.
I have not had a chance to go through the other 1500 messages on this board, but I thought I'd share.
I watched the Killing Season (a few times), and am also huge fan of Rachael and Joshua's documentaries.
The elderly gentleman they have in the Killing Season discussing the possibility of 2 separate killers fighting over territory, was also in their Killer Legends documentary. He seems to be knowledgeable and experienced enough, that I trust his opinion. The theory that one is a "torso killer" and the other prefers to keep his victims intact. Indicating 2 completely different MO/ styles of killing, so I agree 2 different people. Due to the timelines I don't feel one killer honed his skills and developed different traits.
In my opinion, I think they may know each other, personally.
The reason I feel like they know each other on a more personal level is because they found partial remains of victims in areas where the intact victims bodies were found/ vice versa.
Something like that happening as a coincidence seems almost impossible, unless they knew specifics that only that person would know. Most of the intact remains found in Long Island were discovered in clusters in 2010 and 2011, and the partial remains of a couple victims (torsos found elsewhere) were found around that same time if Wiki is correct.
"The four sets of remains discovered on March 29 and April 4 were all within two miles and to the east of those found in December. They included two women, a man, and a toddler.
[5] A skull and a partial set of remains were found on April 11 after the search expanded into Nassau County.
[47] They were found about one mile apart, approximately five miles west of those found in December.
[48]"
For example, Jessica Taylor was missing in 2003, they found her dismembered torso around July 2003.
But her skull, hands, forearm weren't found until the 2011 cluster was discovered.
From what I've read, the actual bodies on Long Island weren't discovered before 2010, so for her extremities to be found in an area where it wasn't even known to be a dump site yet is interesting. Thats 7-8 years her killer held onto those parts, or parts of her sat for 7-8 years in the same spot where they found the rest from LISK.
I am skeptical that Jessica Taylor's killer just happened to find where other bodies were and dumped hers where LISK kept his victims after hearing about it on the news, post 2010 discoveries. That seems risky and not methodical/ ceremonial, which wouldn't fit a SK typical desires. We know they usually go to extreme lengths to fulfill their needs.
I have not found what condition her skull etc. were in when found, but I can imagine after that much time it would be complete bone. Not frozen or preserved/ embalmed, or moved from another location(according to what I've read, they could test soil samples to find that out).
After reading and watching, I feel they should consider 2 separate killers, and that they may have a personal connection. I believe a father/ son or maybe brother relationship. Close enough relationship to where they would protect each other at all costs.
John Bitroff has been potentially linked:
"The trail that police said led to Bittrolff began with a DNA sample submitted by his brother Timothy Bittrolff following his misdemeanor conviction for violating an order of protection in 2013. State police investigators determined the sample was a partial match to DNA left on the two dead women."
Lawyer: 'Laughable' to say client may be tied to NY slayings
Both brothers have been charged with violent crimes. (protection order for brother Timothy, and the violation says a lot as far as his disregard for respect for others) Seems to be a common trait for both.
I have not found any recent (2019) updates on LISK or the possible connection to John Bitrolff*.
Please correct me if I am missing anything.
SMM