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I have a two year old. He is such a good boy, but he is a toddler with his own mind and his own ideas and when it strikes him he can move fast. If I could trust the rest of the world not to hurt him then maybe, just maybe I wouldn't feel sick every single time I let him take the lead.

I personally cannot keep track of the other children we pass, I am too busy making sure the monsters of the world don't touch mine.
 
I have a two year old. He is such a good boy, but he is a toddler with his own mind and his own ideas and when it strikes him he can move fast. If I could trust the rest of the world not to hurt him then maybe, just maybe I wouldn't feel sick every single time I let him take the lead.

I personally cannot keep track of the other children we pass, I am too busy making sure the monsters of the world don't touch mine.

That's quite all right Info! Keep both eyes on yours - Yours will grow up and move on someday -- THEN you will be free to watch others, like I am now...Maybe you will feel just a tad better knowing that some WSers out there are watching too! You must have an incredible love for that child that has only increased throughout this case! Bless you for your good parenting!
 
Bless your heart, how tragic for those children.

I had an incident too, with a small child yanking on a pole stuck in the grass to tie off a yard with new grass. I bent to eye level and was nice/calm in asking the child to stop. Apparently this scared the older 7 yr old sibling who was out watching this baby...and when mama came out she was screaming and cussing at me. Her sister actually had to hold her arm back when she went to punch me in the face. My godsons family heard the commotion and I asked them to call the police. Mama accused me of using racial epitaths... and LE threatened to arrest me. I had a bad taste in my mouth for a long long time after that....

Yikes! Don't let it stop you though. Just a quiet smile and apology to LE, parents or whomever should work but there are those that well, it just doesn't work with! :bang: "Oh I'm so sorry! I didn't mean to scare him/her, I was just sooooo scared he/she was going to get hurt on that pole!! I'll go away now - sorry!" (waves and keeps walking no matter what they say)....
 
That's quite all right Info! Keep both eyes on yours - Yours will grow up and move on someday -- THEN you will be free to watch others, like I am now...Maybe you will feel just a tad better knowing that some WSers out there are watching too! You must have an incredible love for that child that has only increased throughout this case! Bless you for your good parenting!

That makes me feel so good, but I cannot rely on it. But it would be so nice to know some Canuck WSers had an eye on my boy. It makes my heart feel good, but makes my eyes no less watchful.

ETA: I have learned from being here to look more carefully, I really have. I have learned to look past the normal toddler tantrum and made the decision that it was what it seemed. If I hadn't read here I would've just looked past it, and some day maybe it will matter. To some parent somewhere it might matter that NOW I look a little harder. I shouldn't have given the impression that I don't care about others, I look now, more carefully. Thankfully my gut hasn't told me to worry about anything yet.
 
Caylee has changed how I also watch out for other children. It has made me more aware of details- the laughter- the smiles- the tears- a child's eyes- I see children everyday in my line of work- and I also smile and talk to them- even if one child in danger can see a friend they can trust in me- then I am satisfied. Caylee has had a huge impact on my life.
 
A few years ago I was leaving the mall on a January night. It was probably about -40 out and I saw a little boy, about 5, outside standing in the parking lot with no coat on, crying. I drove by and then backed up and got out and asked him where his mom was. he said he didn't know. I left my own kids and my boyfriend in the car and took him into the Sears and went up to a cash desk.

The lady started to call security when his Mom came up. I started to tell her what happened. She gave me a dirty look and asked him "Did that lady try to take you?" over and over. Then she yelled at him about not staying with her and left. The cashier said thanks to me but I was freaking LIVID. It took all my strength not to go after her (I'm a confronter lol). I did call out after her "You're welcome" ...there were a few choice expletives that could have followed, but didn't.

See what happens when you look out for other kids.

Then two weeks ago I went into my bank to use the ATM. There were two kids maybe 4 and 2 playing at the ATM. I went and told the teller "Do you know there are kids there?" She told me yes,their mom was in a meeting with a bank manager. The doors are automatic and they could have run out into the parking lot. No one seemed to care. I got my money and left. Of course, I could have left with those babies and no one would have noticed. grrr.

I can't always watch out for other people's kids. I have my own - a 13 year old who wants to be independent and a 3 year old who is a runner. I lost her for about 10 seconds in a Walmart once because I put her down while I got a cart. I just about had a heart attack. People tell me I'm babying her because I carry her everywhere - no, its because she takes off if I don't!!

I'm not trying to disparage the OP's intent in posting, because it is a good one! I just wanted to share my frustration of what I've seen and how I've been treated when I did try to help.
 
A few years ago I was leaving the mall on a January night. It was probably about -40 out and I saw a little boy, about 5, outside standing in the parking lot with no coat on, crying. I drove by and then backed up and got out and asked him where his mom was. he said he didn't know. I left my own kids and my boyfriend in the car and took him into the Sears and went up to a cash desk.

The lady started to call security when his Mom came up. I started to tell her what happened. She gave me a dirty look and asked him "Did that lady try to take you?" over and over. Then she yelled at him about not staying with her and left. The cashier said thanks to me but I was freaking LIVID. It took all my strength not to go after her (I'm a confronter lol). I did call out after her "You're welcome" ...there were a few choice expletives that could have followed, but didn't.

See what happens when you look out for other kids.

Then two weeks ago I went into my bank to use the ATM. There were two kids maybe 4 and 2 playing at the ATM. I went and told the teller "Do you know there are kids there?" She told me yes,their mom was in a meeting with a bank manager. The doors are automatic and they could have run out into the parking lot. No one seemed to care. I got my money and left. Of course, I could have left with those babies and no one would have noticed. grrr.

I can't always watch out for other people's kids. I have my own - a 13 year old who wants to be independent and a 3 year old who is a runner. I lost her for about 10 seconds in a Walmart once because I put her down while I got a cart. I just about had a heart attack. People tell me I'm babying her because I carry her everywhere - no, its because she takes off if I don't!!

I'm not trying to disparage the OP's intent in posting, because it is a good one! I just wanted to share my frustration of what I've seen and how I've been treated when I did try to help.

But what if...what IF it was my baby? Never, ever, ever doubt you did the right thing. What if because you said something that mom watched closer and prevented somethingÉz And if she didn`t maybe another WSer says something...and another and another...all starting from you. The snowflake method. Or she tells her friend what happened and holds her kids closer...you just can`t tell how far your actions may have goneé<.
 
I appreciate everyones frustration!!!!! Has anyone ever called CPS on anyone? I have a couple times and it's frustrating really to have your call closed over and over. It's truly amazing what it takes to get someone to listen!!! Trust me on that!
 
But what if...what IF it was my baby? Never, ever, ever doubt you did the right thing. What if because you said something that mom watched closer and prevented somethingÉz And if she didn`t maybe another WSer says something...and another and another...all starting from you. The snowflake method. Or she tells her friend what happened and holds her kids closer...you just can`t tell how far your actions may have goneé<.

:blowkiss:

True. :)
I live in Canada too. lol
 
Also, if you have little ones of your own, have them fingerprinted. Nowadays, most schools have some type of child safety program that you can sign up for.

My 13 year-old got fingerprinted in kindergarten and his prints are matched with his school picture. They update the files every year.
 
A few years ago I was leaving the mall on a January night. It was probably about -40 out and I saw a little boy, about 5, outside standing in the parking lot with no coat on, crying. I drove by and then backed up and got out and asked him where his mom was. he said he didn't know. I left my own kids and my boyfriend in the car and took him into the Sears and went up to a cash desk.

The lady started to call security when his Mom came up. I started to tell her what happened. She gave me a dirty look and asked him &quot;Did that lady try to take you?&quot; over and over. Then she yelled at him about not staying with her and left. The cashier said thanks to me but I was freaking LIVID. It took all my strength not to go after her (I'm a confronter lol). I did call out after her &quot;You're welcome&quot; ...there were a few choice expletives that could have followed, but didn't.

See what happens when you look out for other kids.

Then two weeks ago I went into my bank to use the ATM. There were two kids maybe 4 and 2 playing at the ATM. I went and told the teller &quot;Do you know there are kids there?&quot; She told me yes,their mom was in a meeting with a bank manager. The doors are automatic and they could have run out into the parking lot. No one seemed to care. I got my money and left. Of course, I could have left with those babies and no one would have noticed. grrr.

I can't always watch out for other people's kids. I have my own - a 13 year old who wants to be independent and a 3 year old who is a runner. I lost her for about 10 seconds in a Walmart once because I put her down while I got a cart. I just about had a heart attack. People tell me I'm babying her because I carry her everywhere - no, its because she takes off if I don't!!

I'm not trying to disparage the OP's intent in posting, because it is a good one! I just wanted to share my frustration of what I've seen and how I've been treated when I did try to help.

Geeze, I found a kid in Wal-Mart, standing in the aisle with no adults anywhere around. He was crying his eyes out. I took his hand and we walked to the sports desk. I left him there, because I didn't want to be accused of anything. The clerk said "They do that all the time," shaking her head. I can't believe this happens, but she implied it happened all the time. There were no parents anywhere around. Just a cute little guy, about 3. I thought about Adam Walsh and how he was snatched up so quickly. What is the matter with people?
 
A few years ago I was leaving the mall on a January night. It was probably about -40 out and I saw a little boy, about 5, outside standing in the parking lot with no coat on, crying. I drove by and then backed up and got out and asked him where his mom was. he said he didn't know. I left my own kids and my boyfriend in the car and took him into the Sears and went up to a cash desk.

The lady started to call security when his Mom came up. I started to tell her what happened. She gave me a dirty look and asked him "Did that lady try to take you?" over and over. Then she yelled at him about not staying with her and left. The cashier said thanks to me but I was freaking LIVID. It took all my strength not to go after her (I'm a confronter lol). I did call out after her "You're welcome" ...there were a few choice expletives that could have followed, but didn't.

See what happens when you look out for other kids.

Then two weeks ago I went into my bank to use the ATM. There were two kids maybe 4 and 2 playing at the ATM. I went and told the teller "Do you know there are kids there?" She told me yes,their mom was in a meeting with a bank manager. The doors are automatic and they could have run out into the parking lot. No one seemed to care. I got my money and left. Of course, I could have left with those babies and no one would have noticed. grrr.

I can't always watch out for other people's kids. I have my own - a 13 year old who wants to be independent and a 3 year old who is a runner. I lost her for about 10 seconds in a Walmart once because I put her down while I got a cart. I just about had a heart attack. People tell me I'm babying her because I carry her everywhere - no, its because she takes off if I don't!!

I'm not trying to disparage the OP's intent in posting, because it is a good one! I just wanted to share my frustration of what I've seen and how I've been treated when I did try to help.

Don't feel bad I got those same looks the other day at Wal-mart . My daughters 13 & 11 & I went to the restroom , they were ahead of me . So I didn't see right away , I could hear 2 little girls that were no more then 2 to 4 yrs old in the next stall . Didn't think anything of it until I opened the door to come out . They had their door wide open no adult other then me in the restroom . I waited until they finished , helped them wash their hands while asking where mom was . They said we're with daddy , he's standing outside waiting . I escorted them out to dad and said they are way to little to be in there all alone . If looks could kill lol

What if it was some sick perv ??? Geez these people have no brains.
 
Yes, will most certainly do that. I too have gotten involved when I thought a child was in trouble. Once was at a bank dirive thru, and two older men had three toddlers jumping around in the back seat, not buckled as they should have been. The driver of the car reached back and hit a little boy about 2 1/2 in the mouth causing his lip to bleed. By then I was punching him thru his car window and the bank lady called the police.

The second time was just this fall, I live in the middle of a block and was sitting on my front steps when a middle aged man and a boy about 8 rode by on bikes. The older man was telling the boy about what happens during child molestation. I could hear them well and my hinky meter went off loud and clear. I shouted "hey" real loud and got their attention, looked right at the man, pointed at my eye, pulled my ear lobe and pointed directly at him with a stern look in my eye. As they reached the end of the block I heard the boy tell him "bye" and they went in different directions. I am certain they did not know one another at that point. The little boy then rode his bike into a nearby yard and began playing with other children.

I try to always watch out for children.

Thanks for the Reminder
 
Although my two sons are adults now in thier mid- twenties, when my first-born son was two I awoke one morning at 5:30 as always without the use of an alarm clock but upon awakening, I can't explain it but something just felt wrong. I jumped up and literally ran to bedroom which was right next to mine and he was not in his crib. I ran down the stairs - no bathrobe, no slippers, didn't even think to grab one, just in a nightie - and found the front door wide open. I ran out of my front door and into the street all the while calling (yelling) out his name. No thought of waking up sleeping neighbor's - didn't even enter my mind - just sheer panic! As I'm running down the street calling out his name, I could see one of my neighbor's walking towards me with my baby in her arms. As I got to him he held out his little arms to me crying "mama, mama". I took him in my arms, of course I was sobbing and so was my neighbor. She told me that she had been sound asleep when she awoke to the sound of a child crying out for their mama, she jumped up and looked out into her backyard and there sitting on the ground beside her children's swingset was my son. She ran out to him, picked him up into her arms while reasurring him that it was ok and she would take him to his mama. We stood in the middle of that street, all three of us holding eachother and crying until another neighbor came out (nightclothes on too!) with a blanket in tow, wrapped it all around us and said, "well if your all gonna stand out here crying, at least have a blanket and get warm" Of course she was crying too but we all couldn't help but start laughing at the way that she said it! Even my son's little sobs stopped and he looked from one of us to the other and starting laughing to, he was (still is even at 27!) so precious. I couldn't have been more thankful to that neighbor. My son had woken up and for some reason - never happened before - he pushed a chair up to the door and unlocked the deadbolt. He had already figured out how to unlock the lock on the doorknob itself as I happened to be right there the day that he learnt to do it and that was why I had installed a deadbolt on the door - just not high enough for him not to reach it with a chair!
No parent is perfect BUT when we honestly make mistakes and someone comes to the rescue, we should be grateful. IMO if a parent(s) act hostile or offended - too bad. For all those who have experienced that type of reaction from parent's when looking out for the wellbeing of a child, I've encountered it myself and I've said this on at least 3 occasions over the past 6-7 years to parents who have left their child/children unattended and have had such a reaction toward me, "better that your embarrassed or mad then a grieving parent" and their mouths hang open as I walk away.
 
Ive been doing this for the Groene children and will continue for Caylee.
My Word on it.
 
Don't feel bad I got those same looks the other day at Wal-mart . My daughters 13 & 11 & I went to the restroom , they were ahead of me . So I didn't see right away , I could hear 2 little girls that were no more then 2 to 4 yrs old in the next stall . Didn't think anything of it until I opened the door to come out . They had their door wide open no adult other then me in the restroom . I waited until they finished , helped them wash their hands while asking where mom was . They said we're with daddy , he's standing outside waiting . I escorted them out to dad and said they are way to little to be in there all alone . If looks could kill lol

What if it was some sick perv ??? Geez these people have no brains.

Someone mentioned Adam Walsh. Be assured my 6 yr old already knows his story because mine likes to play hide and seek hiding within the aisles. I was lucky enough to have a mom- who was working the dressing room at Walmart back me up.

Bathrooms are always a problem. I've just started letting my 6 yr old go in by himself if wherever we are is not too crowded and I wait outside the door. When it comes to going to the ballgame at Wrigley Field I will still take him in the ladies room. (else I'm going into the mens room with him) I've only had one bad encounter thus far at a laundry mat, yes, sometimes 5 yr olds still need assistance wiping or buttoning/zipping pants.

With the number of single parents these days and divorce rates over 50% I just don't get why more places do not offer family bathrooms.... that irritates me to no end.
 
We no longer live in a "village" or small town like the ones we grew up in where everyone knew everyone else and looked after them. As a child I remember being admonished by neighbors for my behavior and they never once worried that my family would take offense. Sadly, that's no longer the case. We need new ways of watching over our young and I believe Cocomom's idea is a good start. We live in a different world - we need different ways of coping.
 
cocoamom, I think it is a wonderful idea and am happy that you posted this. Often we are busy and don't think of such things. This was a perfect reminder and a wonderful way to remember Caylee, and for us all to heal from the sadness we too are feeling right now. Thank you!
 
Afew months ago as I was driving home fromt he grocery store, I took a different route for some reason thru the resisedtial area instead of the highway, in the distant I thought I saw a fire hydrant, but as I got closer this was a 18mo? old little boy crying. There was a car with an older man behind me and he stopped as well. I picked up the child and he was crying so hard it took a few minutes to settle him down. As I was holding him I was looking at the houses around me to see if he belonged to anyone and I could not see anyone visable looking for him. Just as I was beginning to dial 911..... a teenager with 2 other 4 and 6 ? little boys came running over and claimed the child. I questioned all three of them to make sure this was their child....

Apparently, this teenager was watching this kid and when he was down the street getting the other children from the bus stop this toddler wandered away. All were well dressed and looked like this baby was well taken care of so after all said his name and the baby went to this teenager man I handled over the child. The first thing this teenager did was make the baby stop crying and made him feel safe.... then the next words out of his mouth was why did you wonder away DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TROUBLE YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN ME INTO..................... that really ticked me off. The older gentleman who stopped behind me stood there and dressed down this teenager with some harsh words and he asked the 2 little boys where they lived and they told us............. We were satisfied this little boy had wandered away because this teenager was not paying attention. We decided not to call 911 because this appeared to truly be an accident. I know I was directed to take this route for a reason to assist this little toddler.... I do not have childen, however, I always pay attention to children.
 
Although my two sons are adults now in thier mid- twenties, when my first-born son was two I awoke one morning at 5:30 as always without the use of an alarm clock but upon awakening, I can't explain it but something just felt wrong. I jumped up and literally ran to bedroom which was right next to mine and he was not in his crib. I ran down the stairs - no bathrobe, no slippers, didn't even think to grab one, just in a nightie - and found the front door wide open. I ran out of my front door and into the street all the while calling (yelling) out his name. No thought of waking up sleeping neighbor's - didn't even enter my mind - just sheer panic! As I'm running down the street calling out his name, I could see one of my neighbor's walking towards me with my baby in her arms. As I got to him he held out his little arms to me crying "mama, mama". I took him in my arms, of course I was sobbing and so was my neighbor. She told me that she had been sound asleep when she awoke to the sound of a child crying out for their mama, she jumped up and looked out into her backyard and there sitting on the ground beside her children's swingset was my son. She ran out to him, picked him up into her arms while reasurring him that it was ok and she would take him to his mama. We stood in the middle of that street, all three of us holding eachother and crying until another neighbor came out (nightclothes on too!) with a blanket in tow, wrapped it all around us and said, "well if your all gonna stand out here crying, at least have a blanket and get warm" Of course she was crying too but we all couldn't help but start laughing at the way that she said it! Even my son's little sobs stopped and he looked from one of us to the other and starting laughing to, he was (still is even at 27!) so precious. I couldn't have been more thankful to that neighbor. My son had woken up and for some reason - never happened before - he pushed a chair up to the door and unlocked the deadbolt. He had already figured out how to unlock the lock on the doorknob itself as I happened to be right there the day that he learnt to do it and that was why I had installed a deadbolt on the door - just not high enough for him not to reach it with a chair!
No parent is perfect BUT when we honestly make mistakes and someone comes to the rescue, we should be grateful. IMO if a parent(s) act hostile or offended - too bad. For all those who have experienced that type of reaction from parent's when looking out for the wellbeing of a child, I've encountered it myself and I've said this on at least 3 occasions over the past 6-7 years to parents who have left their child/children unattended and have had such a reaction toward me, "better that your embarrassed or mad then a grieving parent" and their mouths hang open as I walk away.


What is it with boys? My brother did the same thing. This was back in the 60's. At two years old he undid the deadbolt on the front door. When we woke up later we found him at the playground a block away in only his diaper. Thank goodness it was summer!
 

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