Woman Gives Birth To Octuplets In California

[yanknrebel]

This woman is certifiable !! Her father left me speechless when he did the interview on Opera. Her poor mom looks like she is ready for a nervous breakdown. I still don't believe that this nut isn't going to try and get pregnant again. These children need to be taken away and this woman needs to be locked up..
I thought Octogramps already had a bigger house for them all to go to. He' was on Opera looking for donations. Sad very,very sad

That is what I want the answer too. WHERE and what about that HUGE house that her father stated they had? The one he said that no one would ever find. If they are in foreclosure, then why don;t they move to that otehr house or sell it? I find it very ironic, that the grandmother has not made a payment on said house since May. This would have been a month or so before Octomom got the notion to have more kids. Great timing huh?

 

[Elphaba]

If she is concerned that the hospital won't release them, maybe DCS has finally stepped in?

 

[Mr. E]

Is Nadya concerned at all about the foreclosure? She's going to lose the home she's living in rent-free...she needs to find another place to live and she has 14 kids (who would rent to her??)...she couldn't get a loan to buy a house, could she, because who would give her a loan when she has no steady income? Yet when her mother says, "How will you provide for your children," all she says is "Let go and accept the help I've been offered." That's her master plan?

 

[Kat]

I know this is off topic and will get deleted but I just had to post this because it made me :floorlaugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wujlieYG47s

 

[PattyCake]

I know this is off topic and will get deleted but I just had to post this because it made me :floorlaugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wujlieYG47s

Not off topic at all imo. funny OMG :floorlaugh: And I think it should stay on here. The creative energy put into that video, that must have taken a long time to complete.

 

[twinkiesmom]

There is such a thing as embryo adoption, which is whole, fertilized embryos. Usually the people who choose to adopt these are right-to-lifers who don't want them destroyed. Fine, the future potential children probably be better off with those loonies than with Octomom!

Usually the Loonies as you call them are decent couples who want to have children but have egg or sperm quality issues. Sheesh!

 

[yanknrebel]

Where will a bed and dresser for each of 14 children in a 3 BR house go? Plus someplace for all the adults to sleep (multiple adults will be required full time to care for that many children at a time).

IMO the kids don't have a "right" or "need" to all grow up together. A child is not programmed to "need" a certain number of siblings or however many siblings that child's family happen to have. I think it is more important for them to be raised by sane, loving caregivers who can actually provide at least the basic needs rather than jammed together with a nutcase mother and her equally (IMO) nutcase parents who don't have any money, will have to rely on state/federal gov't, etc. Especially since under that scenario there will never be enough time or space for each individual child to get attention and love.

While I agree it will be very hard or impossible to find a home to take all 14 children, I do beleive that if they are adopted, or placed elsewhere, I believe that ach and everyone of them (esp the octuplets) should be placed in families where they are allowed to have ongoing contact with each sibling. I think this is a must. My husband and I adopted a set of twins, whose birth mother had another child, a girl, 10 months later. We are fortunate enough to have an ongoing relationship with this adoptive family so that the twins and this little girl, (who is a full sibling to our twins) can grow up together. If these children are removed and placed elsewhere, that is traumatic enough. They at least need the stability of having contact with each sibling. Yes, the octuplets don;t realize just yet how unique they are. However WHEN they find out, and they will, if they are placed seperate and not allowed to see their siblings, they WILL be resentful. Just my opino, but being a foster/adoptive mom I have seen this more than once.

 

[yanknrebel]

OMG heaven help those children, she'd probably do it for that price. Now I have to 'retire' my breakfast.:sick:

Oh those poor sweet babes lying there in the hospital. I wonder if anyone actually goes to hold them and feed them other than the nurses? If she has no friends and I haven't seen any pics of grandma even going to the hospital, are those babies bonding with ANYONE?

I wonder that too about anyone holding the babies. We saw our adopted twins at the hospital when they were 3 weeks old. They were born at 29 weeks. NO ONE had ever come to visit them until WE came in, except for the nurses caring for them. I could NOT beleive that. There were 2 AA babies that were there when we were visiting the twins, and I was allowed to go sit and hold them after I held the twins, before visitation was over. One had been there for 6 weeks, and no one was there for this baby. They were ready to reliease this child but could not becuase no one had came back to claim this baby. WOW. There needs to be (there used to be) a program where retired or women with no children at home, come to the hospital and hold and rock these babies. It takes the burden of so many babies to care for fromt he nurses, and also gives the child a sense of belonging, hopefully preventing attachment disorders. Then one has to worry about the person that comes in every day to hold that baby and their attachment to that baby .

 

[Mr. E]

This is off topic, but none of my kids has a dresser. I have three kids. The baby uses baskets to keep her clothes folded and organized; the 13 year old has shelves in her closet; the 17 year old has an old cabinet. No dressers. Does it have to be a dresser?

 

[believe09]

Why is Nadya concerned that KP Hospital won't release the babies until she proves she can care for them? She certainly wasn't concerned when she planned these pregnancies? She certainly wasn't buying any extra cribs when she knew she was expecting 7 babies (the 8th was a suprise)? She had a few months to prepare for what she knew was a multiple pregnancy. She wasn't kicking in to make any house payments for the place she was living in with her 6 kids- to me that proves she isn't capable of caring for the first 6, let alone 8 new ones. But her lips look well glossed and her nails are great... I guess that's all she thinks about?

Two-words...shake-down...."Dr Phil, they won't let me have my kids...can you give me a house? I will give you (fill in the blank) in return..."

JMO.

 

[Jholi]

While I agree it will be very hard or impossible to find a home to take all 14 children, I do beleive that if they are adopted, or placed elsewhere, I believe that ach and everyone of them (esp the octuplets) should be placed in families where they are allowed to have ongoing contact with each sibling. I think this is a must. My husband and I adopted a set of twins, whose birth mother had another child, a girl, 10 months later. We are fortunate enough to have an ongoing relationship with this adoptive family so that the twins and this little girl, (who is a full sibling to our twins) can grow up together. If these children are removed and placed elsewhere, that is traumatic enough. They at least need the stability of having contact with each sibling. Yes, the octuplets don;t realize just yet how unique they are. However WHEN they find out, and they will, if they are placed seperate and not allowed to see their siblings, they WILL be resentful. Just my opino, but being a foster/adoptive mom I have seen this more than once.

Wholeheartedly agree with this. Even if the six are kept together, telling them that mommy had to give their 8 little brothers and sisters to other parents can easily have very negative and long-lasting consequences, e.g., will I be next?

The two older ones might understand (and I think even be relieved! lol) but the toddlers won't. I also think the octuplets deserve to know their siblings.

It's all going to have to be handled very carefully. I won't rehash my favorite options since they're the same as I already posted here. ( http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3310826#post3310826 )

It's just sad and aggravating that Nadya doesn't appear to be willing to take the offer of the Angels group. I can think of several reasons why, all fitting with our impression of her, and none respectable or conducive to the best interests of the children.

 

[Jholi]

Two-words...shake-down...."Dr Phil, they won't let me have my kids...can you give me a house? I will give you (fill in the blank) in return..."

JMO.

Absolutely. At the very least, "Dr Phil, I need you to use your show tomorrow to help me get people to send money! Not spend time exposing my selfishness or holding me accountable for my behavior!"

 

[azwriter]

Why is Nadya concerned that KP Hospital won't release the babies until she proves she can care for them? She certainly wasn't concerned when she planned these pregnancies? She certainly wasn't buying any extra cribs when she knew she was expecting 7 babies (the 8th was a suprise)? She had a few months to prepare for what she knew was a multiple pregnancy. She wasn't kicking in to make any house payments for the place she was living in with her 6 kids- to me that proves she isn't capable of caring for the first 6, let alone 8 new ones. But her lips look well glossed and her nails are great... I guess that's all she thinks about?

Right On! Say it like it is, Boyz_Mum!

 

[azwriter]

I agree with the hospitals stance that a careplan must be outlined in detail before the children are to be brought home. O/T but relavent ~ when I had one premmie I was assigned several classes to ensure that he had the appropriate care within my home. My then Husband attended with me as well as my parents. The hospital would be remiss and could face future charges if these children were released to the parent without the proper careplan lined out. We have not heard that these children have been diagnosed with anything other than being premature. In my case, my son had moniters for breathing (class for that) he took medications to stimulate breathing (class for that) we had to know infant CPR in the event he stopped breathing (class for that) he recieved Physical therapy, Occupational therapy (something along the same lines as PT) and other preventative therapies that were all given on an outpatient basis. Which meant that I had to take him for those therapies. This is a no joke. She absolutely has to have a careplan in place because she is dealing with 8 premmies. The thought boggles my mind.



:floorlaugh: oh lordy dayz on that one JBean!

Oh Kat, you have been there and done that. You alone know how serious the outlook is for these 8 infants.
By the way, can you share the outcome on your son since you and your hubby worked so hard to establish a healthy life for him? I hope it all went well.
azwriter

 

[SallyLu]

Vivid Entertainment offered her 1 mil to star in her own *advertiser censored* flick.

FoxLA11 morning news.

Ha - a bit of levity!!

How is this gonna work??

:floorlaugh:


:censored::censored::censored::censored::censored::censored:

 

[fran]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

why would anyone want to watch her in a *advertiser censored* movie anyway? we don't even know if she knows how to do it for the love of pete.

Oh MyGoodness JBean!

Too, too funny,

This is such a train wreck, I can't help but keep looking. Every day is something new!

:slap:

fran

 

[SallyLu]

It's got that I can't bear to watch this family of p**ps. Like others I'll read it on here, TMZ and in the newspapers - no show featuring her and the rest of her family.

Let Octo so and so (she's the birth mum but never a mum in my eyes) appear on Dr Phil - and may it backfire on them.

I am happy that Kaiser is watching her. YEAH!!!!!!

 

[azwriter]

This is off topic, but none of my kids has a dresser. I have three kids. The baby uses baskets to keep her clothes folded and organized; the 13 year old has shelves in her closet; the 17 year old has an old cabinet. No dressers. Does it have to be a dresser?

Okay Mr. E you better darn well get a dresser of some kind in there. We all here could report you to CPS. How are those children going to grow into stable, mentally healthy adults without a dress to stuff their clothes into.
Hey, I had a dresser for both of my kids. They threw the clothes on the floor anyway.

 

[azwriter]

I wonder that too about anyone holding the babies. We saw our adopted twins at the hospital when they were 3 weeks old. They were born at 29 weeks. NO ONE had ever come to visit them until WE came in, except for the nurses caring for them. I could NOT beleive that. There were 2 AA babies that were there when we were visiting the twins, and I was allowed to go sit and hold them after I held the twins, before visitation was over. One had been there for 6 weeks, and no one was there for this baby. They were ready to reliease this child but could not becuase no one had came back to claim this baby. WOW. There needs to be (there used to be) a program where retired or women with no children at home, come to the hospital and hold and rock these babies. It takes the burden of so many babies to care for fromt he nurses, and also gives the child a sense of belonging, hopefully preventing attachment disorders. Then one has to worry about the person that comes in every day to hold that baby and their attachment to that baby .

Thanks for your informative post. You make some good points. I've had experience as a volunteer to hold and gently rock "cocaine babies." Best think I ever did with my life.

 

[BuzzieCat]

Is Nadya concerned at all about the foreclosure? She's going to lose the home she's living in rent-free...she needs to find another place to live and she has 14 kids (who would rent to her??)...she couldn't get a loan to buy a house, could she, because who would give her a loan when she has no steady income? Yet when her mother says, "How will you provide for your children," all she says is "Let go and accept the help I've been offered." That's her master plan?

She sure shouldn't be able to get a mortgage right now with the economic situation. Not unless somebody dumps a load of money in her lap.

While I agree it will be very hard or impossible to find a home to take all 14 children, I do beleive that if they are adopted, or placed elsewhere, I believe that ach and everyone of them (esp the octuplets) should be placed in families where they are allowed to have ongoing contact with each sibling. I think this is a must. My husband and I adopted a set of twins, whose birth mother had another child, a girl, 10 months later. We are fortunate enough to have an ongoing relationship with this adoptive family so that the twins and this little girl, (who is a full sibling to our twins) can grow up together. If these children are removed and placed elsewhere, that is traumatic enough. They at least need the stability of having contact with each sibling. Yes, the octuplets don;t realize just yet how unique they are. However WHEN they find out, and they will, if they are placed seperate and not allowed to see their siblings, they WILL be resentful. Just my opino, but being a foster/adoptive mom I have seen this more than once.

Yes, I think it would be great if they could be placed in homes where they could know each other. But for right now, whatever the new 8 babies need just to keep them alive trumps anything else. I'm sure the older kids from the first 6 are going to be confused if the 8 babies don't come home or at least not right away, but I just don't see how it's going to work. Unless she has some wonderful setup the public doesn't know about. I'm just glad someone is apparently looking into the situation now.