Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #16

[10ofRods]

I’ve stru

I was having trouble with the timeline as well but from what I can gather from the ones that actually saw the van and reported it to the FBI the van was not parked in a designated spot at the campsite. Which is what actually drew attention to it. That was on the 26th. No one saw Gabby but they did see her flip-flops and have pictures of her flip-flops behind the van on the 26th but never physically saw her only him. Her body was found in a remote area at that camp ground. Spread Creek, which is not far from Coulter Bay. IMO he panicked left the van hiked/hitchhiked to Colter Bay I don’t think any of this was premeditated this is a DV situation with a kid who I’m sure is very mentally unstable. So in his panic he went to Colter Bay then hitchhiked to Jackson Dam & realized they were going the wrong route, he wanted the other route that would take him to Spread Creek, so he got out at the dam & went to where the van was and drove home to FL from there. I question whether he left her body in the van or whether he killed her on their hike. I honestly don’t know or that it even matters. He got back to the van on the 29th & was home in FL on 9/1. What’s crazy is that the van kids/young adults on Tiktok really are the reason the FBI found her. They sent pictures of exactly where that van was parked with her hat on the dash and her sandals behind it. And not far from there is exactly where they found her body hats off to those kids for doing the right thing.

Are you sure about that? From my perspective and from what the couple who took the video said...it was the FL license plates they noticed (I believe they had some connection to FL and wanted to say "hi"). That's what she said, anyway.

Everyone was reporting everything they could find to local LE and to park LE and to FBI - do you know for sure the first report was made to FBI?

Her body was found just yards from an access road within that campground - hardly remote within that campground (remote in terms of US geography, for sure).

I too think he panicked and hitchhiked to Colter Bay (seeking an alibi).

I don't think it was premeditated, except that he knew he was capable of and would continue to use violence - a jury would have to decide.

I don't think there was a hike.

We think he was home on 9/1. He could have just let his parents he was coming home and they covered for him - but otherwise, he went without sleep (which Gabby told a friend that he had "episodes" of sleeplessness (and hearing voices, hallucinations).

The TikTok kids did indeed help find her - it narrowed the search area, as we were all hoping and praying and posting everywhere we could think of...to trigger just the response that those "kids" gave (not sure they were TikTok people - I think they were YouTubers). Hats off.

 

[GussiedCanoodler]

Omg. This "burial"/"digging" mess is driving me nuts. Maybe it's the speed of the threads. WHERE is this information coming from. I think we've cleared up the burying, but now people were digging??

I think people thought they saw someone digging in the video of the van. However, when looking at the enhanced video posted on twitter, the individual who enhanced the video also addressed that. Here is the link: https://twitter.com/brent_shavnore/status/1439745672811515909

I apologize if there is another digging topic I am missing!

 

[Jurisprudence]

On West Yellowstone (and witness stating BL in Bullwinkle's bar alone):
And, the merchant in Victor Idaho stated she told them to take the West Entrance (through West Yellowstone, Montana).
"The owner of the Rustic Row in Victor claimed the couple popped into the shop for about 15 to 20 minutes on either Aug. 25 or Aug. 26, East Idaho News reported.

“They told me they were traveling from Florida. They had just been to Teton Park and they said they were interested in going to Yellowstone and I told them they could go to the west entrance,” the owner, who was not identified, told the outlet."Gabby Petito, Brian Laundrie 'seemed happy': store owner
Business owner says Gabby Petito and boyfriend made stop in Victor after visiting Wyoming - East Idaho News

 

[Harvath]

A lot of clever theories in these threads. Sometimes I wonder if BL is sitting at home reading this and getting ideas for a story.

Hope the jail/ prison commissary has paper and pen to write that story down.

 

[oviedo]

@oviedo I finally found it!

Body matching description of Gabby Petito found in Grand Teton

Steven Bertolino, the Laundrie family attorney told ABC News on Sunday that the family picked up the car, Brian Laundrie was using, on Thursday morning from the reserve after going out on Wednesday to look for their son.

Laundrie left the family home on Tuesday morning with a backpack. Bertolino said that the family went out to the reserve on Wednesday to look for him and spotted a note from the North Port Police Department on the car saying it needed to be removed.

The family left the car overnight "so he could drive back," the attorney said. When Laundrie didn't come home Thursday morning, the family went back to retrieve the car.

The family then called police on Friday to file a missing person report

Well done @mlhenn !

 

[Herat]

Since Gabby was pretty quickly identified, is it possible that if she is buried, she was put into a bag of some sort? I honestly don't know how much of a difference it would make in the elements with wildlife etc. Sorry for the morbid question; it's just something I wondered about before they even found her.

Too soon Lavender, too soon.

Ask again in a couple of days.

 

[bambibones]

Yeah. I was listening too.

One question he took was about the Mustang. He said that it wasn't there Tuesday (he has a post on his twitter feed about it: https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1439593712271646721?s=20 ) and it was there Wednesday morning when they were back. He said they asked neighbors for Ring camera footage but there is none that they found of BL driving the Mustang.

Re: someone's question here about why the reporter is there in the neighbor's yard. Earlier this evening, LE cleared the street, told everyone they couldn't be parked there (even media), cleared people out. Brian Entin, as well as a few other reporters were able to get permission from various neighbors to stay in their yards. So, those few reporters are in private yards, waiting to see what, if anything might transpire tonight.

This doesn't make complete sense. If the car was not there Tuesday and was there Wednesday, somebody put it there. If the Ring cameras were actually working for this at all, they would have seen the car arrive - and hopefully know who was driving. I don't think there's any actual footage of the car arriving.

 

[Stormy415]

If he left on Tuesday, as his parents say, and they do not notify the LE until Friday, Brian had 3 days to get out of the area. I think he is definitely somewhere in the US or Mexico.
Who knows, was he even at his parents house after Sept. 1? I have doubts. JMO

 

[ellel]

Should be very easy for LE to find out. Anything dealing with the airlines and airports domestically post 9/11 is documented to a hyper extent. Cameras all over airports, flight manifests, TSA checking tickets, credit card air travel purchase. It’s impossible to hide commercial air travel in today’s world.

I don’t believe any neighbors reported actually seeing BL back in FL. Someone could have gone and met him on the route and driven van back, leaving him anywhere.

They wouldn’t have had to fly…. Drive, bus, etc

 

[cantstop]

Witnesses in Moab say they are fighting over a phone. Later, Gabby says (IIRC) to police that she was trying to get her phone back from him. Do you think Gabby was trying to take his phone away from him (the one he isn't even sure he has?). Whose phone could it be? She says she tries to get her phone back from him.

It's her phone.

"Keeping her phone"? Why. does that matter? Someone taking a phone away in an emergency isn't good, whether they intend to "keep" it or not.

They were also fighting over the van. Witnesses said she went through the driver's side window (where they were arguing) and crawled over him to the passenger side. She later tells LE that she's afraid he was going to leave her there, without van or phone.



How is it not a typical crime scene tent? It's the standard canopy I see used all over Southern California. And I've seen the same in Utah and in cases I've followed throughout the SW. Are you being thrown off by the distance between the camera and the tent?

Because it is a typical crime scene tent.

It's not Gabby's tent - at all. Go look at her insta.

I think the tent they’re confused about is the one at around 1:47 of the video. Not the easy up canopy one. The figure 8 of tape is super weird. Anyone know what that’s about?

 

[Balthazar]

Witnesses in Moab say they are fighting over a phone. Later, Gabby says (IIRC) to police that she was trying to get her phone back from him. Do you think Gabby was trying to take his phone away from him (the one he isn't even sure he has?). Whose phone could it be? She says she tries to get her phone back from him.

It's her phone.

"Keeping her phone"? Why. does that matter? Someone taking a phone away in an emergency isn't good, whether they intend to "keep" it or not.

They were also fighting over the van. Witnesses said she went through the driver's side window (where they were arguing) and crawled over him to the passenger side. She later tells LE that she's afraid he was going to leave her there, without van or phone.



How is it not a typical crime scene tent? It's the standard canopy I see used all over Southern California. And I've seen the same in Utah and in cases I've followed throughout the SW. Are you being thrown off by the distance between the camera and the tent?

Because it is a typical crime scene tent.

It's not Gabby's tent - at all. Go look at her insta.

The tent I linked is NOT the typical crime scene canopy but a oval dome tent with walls. I've never seen one of those used on a crime scene, only canopy tents. This is the usual crime scene tent often without the walls: Arrowhead Forensics Crime Scene Tools and Forensic Analysis - Privacy Barriers - Pop-up Crime Scene Canopy - A-C1010CT - A-WBPR402BK Crime Scene - Lab Supplies

I checked Gabby's instagram and the photos of her tent are now gone. In fact, I have not been able to find a good photo of her tent at all. Not sure why not as they were easy to find yesterday.

 

[Alethea]

Sorry honey, I can't come to bed, I'm watching a live feed of these people's front door to see if the FBI executes a search warrant or their fugitive son returns tonight

 

[MyBelle]

what is everyones best guess as to why LE has closed off the road in front of the Laundries home?
crowd control? Search warran about to be issued? arrest made?

I think it is to avoid the circus the Casey Anthony case became.

 

[omgtain]

I’ve stru

I was having trouble with the timeline as well but from what I can gather from the ones that actually saw the van and reported it to the FBI the van was not parked in a designated spot at the campsite. Which is what actually drew attention to it. That was on the 26th. No one saw Gabby but they did see her flip-flops and have pictures of her flip-flops behind the van on the 26th but never physically saw her only him. Her body was found in a remote area at that camp ground. Spread Creek, which is not far from Coulter Bay. IMO he panicked left the van hiked/hitchhiked to Colter Bay I don’t think any of this was premeditated this is a DV situation with a kid who I’m sure is very mentally unstable. So in his panic he went to Colter Bay then hitchhiked to Jackson Dam & realized they were going the wrong route, he wanted the other route that would take him to Spread Creek, so he got out at the dam & went to where the van was and drove home to FL from there. I question whether he left her body in the van or whether he killed her on their hike. I honestly don’t know or that it even matters. He got back to the van on the 29th & was home in FL on 9/1. What’s crazy is that the van kids/young adults on Tiktok really are the reason the FBI found her. They sent pictures of exactly where that van was parked with her hat on the dash and her sandals behind it. And not far from there is exactly where they found her body hats off to those kids for doing the right thing.

spread creek and colter bay are 20 miles apart. GP's body was found only 900 ft away from their van which was parked along the road.

 

[KinderedSpirits]

Although, we all had a feeling it would turn out this way…I’m totally gutted by actually knowing outcome. My heart breaks for the family.

 

[MadMcGoo]

This outcome is definitely not what we hoped for. RIP Gabby. I dont think either were equipped for the reality of living in a confined space without common daily luxuries for so long and both having potential MH disorders. The Instagram "lifestyle" is brutal. It can be consuming with very little rewards. Most people don't get sponsored or even a large following. Being on public display, trying to show perfection, negative comments in DMs, and the need to manage your profile 24/7 is not conducive to balance or healthy relationships. Add a pandemic, wildfires, and it obviously was a recipe for disaster. It is tragic.

As more information comes out, I am sure some of our burning questions will be answered. And some questions will never be answered. It was a senseless crime. Sadly, neither could take a step back, escape, have a macroview, or stop this train leading to this horrible situation. A "Why" in the lens hindsight is always the hardest.

As we travel this Websleuths journey, with ups and downs, remember to be kind to each-other. We all want answers, all want to figure out what happened, all want to make sense of a senseless crime. The worse thing we can do is get a thread shutdown because we are emotionally charged. Remember, we are all shocked and saddened. We all wanted the best case scenario for Gabby. We all process differently. Our differences are what makes us the Websleulths team. Our goal has always been to be a voice for those who can't help themselves. And our different view points have brought light to the darkest situation, solved cases, and gave people their names and dignity back.

Off my soapbox.

I appreciate your post.

 

[JayWill]

Witnesses in Moab say they are fighting over a phone. Later, Gabby says (IIRC) to police that she was trying to get her phone back from him. Do you think Gabby was trying to take his phone away from him (the one he isn't even sure he has?). Whose phone could it be? She says she tries to get her phone back from him.

It's her phone.

"Keeping her phone"? Why. does that matter? Someone taking a phone away in an emergency isn't good, whether they intend to "keep" it or not.

They were also fighting over the van. Witnesses said she went through the driver's side window (where they were arguing) and crawled over him to the passenger side. She later tells LE that she's afraid he was going to leave her there, without van or phone.



How is it not a typical crime scene tent? It's the standard canopy I see used all over Southern California. And I've seen the same in Utah and in cases I've followed throughout the SW. Are you being thrown off by the distance between the camera and the tent?

Because it is a typical crime scene tent.

It's not Gabby's tent - at all. Go look at her insta.

BBM. I wonder if, like when he took her ID to prevent her from going out with her friend, this was to stop her making the date with the friend for meeting up in Yellowstone?

 

[squareandrabbet]

Brian Entin at News Nation just said he checked several neighbors Ring videos and did not see Brian leave in the Mustang. He also said that the neighbors have not stated that they have actually seen Brian.

Interesting.

He left Tuesday and his parents picked it up later that day and brought it home. How did they know he didn't need the car? IMO, they gave him a ride there and came back home.

Yup, agreed. Maybe they chucked him into the trunk and drove off, thus him not being spotted.

 

[Moonstruck705]

That was a legal, dispersed campsite. They don't look like regular campsites - only like pullouts.

I don’t believe they were parked at a campsite. Even dispersed campsites have officially designated areas. From studying her IG, I understand they often tent camped near the RV.

I wonder if perhaps they weren’t camped somewhere closer to where her body was discovered, in a tent, away from RV.

 

[zucchinibread]

My new theory is that Brian has not been in Florida since the murder. I bet one of the parents flew out and drove it back and he went to New York to hide with relatives or something. No one has seen him. I don’t think he’s there.