Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #28

[nimaathep]

Maybe they needed to go for another grocery run.

After seeing CL leave for milk it amazed me that they don't just use instacart or something if they have no one to bring them stuff...then again, maybe they tried and no one working for any delivery service wanted to deliver it to them! MOO

 

[stx722]

Also plane circling over reserve. Caught my curiosity

N129TV - Us Helicopters Inc - FAA Registry | AeroBase Group, Inc.

It appears to be misidentified by FlightRadar, but it's another helicopter.

 

[elmomom]

I am going to ask what may amount to be two dumb questions right now, and one is a 'what if' scenario:

If the autopsy is complete and the Coroner has determined very close to approximately what date Gabby passed, then couldn't LE issue an Arrest Warrant for BL based on the fact that he, at the very minimum, misdirected the investigation by sending text messages from her phone to people after she died?

Although they cannot yet prove he is the one who sent the messages, what if their cell phones pinged together at the same time in the same place multiple times after the date she was determined to be deceased, it would, at the very least, indicate that he was likely in possession of her cell phone and that he tried to impersonate her by using her phone.

I realize that this scenario involves him not having the presence of mind to shut off his own phone during his drive back to Florida. (I don't believe he could resist not checking his own phone for several days.)

In Christina Morris's murder trial, some of the evidence presented was cell phone records that showed the pinging of Christina and her abductor's (EA) cell phones were close together for a few hours after she was last seen with him on surveillance tape. (He was the last person who had been seen with her and claimed he left her close to her car in a parking garage.)

Also, second question is could LE currently have an Arrest Warrant for him and just not be making it public ?

JMO

They most likely have enough evidence for an arrest warrant. It just needs to be determined to have probable cause - which is a pretty low standard to meet. But, there is a constitutional right to a speedy trail, and so they are sometimes slower to make an arrest since they want to have the investigation complete and be ready to go to trial if the defendant wants to.
In this case, my gut feeling is that is not the issue. I think they have an arrest warrant either signed approved and ready to go or at least written up and ready to submit to a judge. And yes, they could have one already approved but under seal so the public would not be aware. And since BL is in hiding, that may be the option they chose to go with. Also, they may want to bargain with him when he is caught, not arresting him ASAP gives him a final chance to give his side of the story in hopes they will believe him and he can avoid arrest. And having his side of the story is much better for prosecutors since it locks him in and they have an easier time of disproving him.
JMHO

 

[South Dakota]

Can you expand on that thought?

The lawyer doesn't specialize in homicide.

Legal Services (sbertolinolaw.com)

 

[incognitus]

The larger cross only appeared 30 minutes after LE left the scene. It was either made by the FBI or by an unknown person/persons. We've heard both but LE has not confirmed either one. Imo

I hear you, but just look at the picture, it is evident that this stone cross has been there for 1+ weeks at least. It has seen quite some wind and rain. No media speculation is necessary for that conclusion.

 

[redfishingirl]

I don't know how John Walsh can forgive the cops who botched his missing deceased son's case. That was horrific. Le botched it horribly!!!



Anyone think STAN was code to her mother?

I think if STAN was a code she would have immediately contacted authorities. She knew Stan was Grandpa, so Grandpa's name must be Stan.
MOO

 

[Mmaaix]

IMO good thought to highlight the restaurants and hotel stays. This is not off-the-grid (or even outdoor-focused) life by any stretch. It’s photo ops at popular spots plus cheap overnights.
[I have to throw in an exception to GP ‘s hotel stay in SLC, though, since that night have been a safety measure.]
Restaurants and hotels get super expensive.
There are hostels around if you need cheap lodgings.
A much cheaper method for eating is to have a double-burner Coleman stove and make all your meals at campgrounds, rest areas, etc. I hadn’t seen this couple do that. GP might have been comfortable doing that, but no way in heck BL. After all, he could have just driven the van into the sunset. Instead, he drives it home to momma.
I wonder where BL has been getting his showers?

They did have a Coleman burner it was in the YouTube video. Gabby was making food.

 

[PingTheRouter]

Is anyone live?

WFLA Now Video

 

[Mom24]

That's probably true. But every case Walsh has been involved in since his son's horrible murder has involved heartbreaking details and in hindsight, mistakes by investigators. And he's never sounded quite so unhinged. So I just have to wonder what else is going on. Maybe as one poster suggested it's theater but I've never thought Walsh was especially prone to that.
JMO

I think "unhinged" might be a bit hyperbolic. I think people get passionate about cases and this one is highly unusual since three people are complicit in the events, and that doesn't include all the what ifs surround that stop in Moab. Three adults are actively coordinating in an effort to treat another human being like trash and that's upsetting. It's upsetting when one person kills another, but to have that murderers parents act in such a callous deprived manner as well? It's unconscionable.

 

[merrymary]

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[Jealoushe]

Personally, I think they have a team looking for him elsewhere but not telling anyone publicly.

I think this dive team is looking for the murder weapon in there.

BL dumped it and then was picked up and god only knows where now. But I think this is a show for the media, and to find the weapon and they are onto BL elsewhere. JMO

 

[Caring4Many]

I don't know how John Walsh can forgive the cops who botched his missing deceased son's case. That was horrific. Le botched it horribly!!!



Anyone think STAN was code to her mother?

No because for any decent code to work, the parties sending and receiving the code need to understand it. Seems if you were going to create a code you would do more than use Grandpa's name rather than what she would call him.
When my kids were little we had codes for school - one that if someone picked them up they needed to use so the kids knew I sent them in an emergency. Another so if I called at a friends or they called to check in, when prompted they could reply with it. For ex, "Name, I am making dinner tomorrow, do you want Fish or Pizza?" If all was well, they would say "Pizza sounds good." If not, they would say "Fish" and I would know that I needed to tell them I had some reason they needed to come home.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Working on the update today: @Tiff23fr @JerseyGirl for page 1
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Updated Sept 23
2020

MAR 17: IG Post- 1 yr anniversary

JUL 2: GP announced her engagement to BL

2021

JUL 2: Van Life Road Trip Began for Gabby Petito and BL - GP is the owner of the van

JUL 5: The couple stopped at Kansas' Monument Rocks

JUL 8: Their next stop was Colorado Springs

JUL 10: Petito updated her Instagram with photos of her walking at Grand Sand Dunes National Park

JUL 16: Petito’s smiling in a photo from the couple’s next stop at Zion National Park

JUL 20: Petito informed her Instagram followers that they were at Cedar Breaks

JUL 21: The next stop was Bryce Canyon National Park

JUL 26: Petito posted a photo relaxing in hot tub at Mystic Hot Springs

JUL 30: The couple stopped at Canyonlands National Park Mesa Arch

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AUG 10: JF met Gabby and BL near Moab, Utah where they chatted about 40 min. JF and his girlfriend then set off on a hike to the Delicate Arch. When they got back to the parking lot, Gabby and Laundrie were gone.

AUG 12: The couple was at the organic store (Moonflower) from 9am to 3pm according to the police video - they were going to get water and showers - police report incident is at 4pm and the video is over an hour long of this incident. BL is taken to a hotel -
?Where does Gabby go for the night?

AUG 12: The couple took a hike at Arches National Park -
?Believe the hike was august 9 and posted on aug 12?

AUG 12 Moab, UT PD police incident report - no criminal charges,respond to an incident involving BL and Gabrielle Petito

AUG 12 Arches National Park - reservation only campsite (per PE) -
?Is this where Gabby stayed in her van/tent?

Note - removed Aug 13 Instagram post - no corresponding post on her instagram
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AUG 17: BL returns to Florida via airplane to move their things out of storage returns Aug 23 -Some reports say he moved stuff into storage and some say out of storage (source - handwritten note by Gabbys uncle and interview with Mom)

AUG 19: YouTube travel video posted by Gabby

AUG 21: Gabbys dad orders Uber eats delivered to hotel

AUG 21: Gabby told her Dad on FaceTime that they had lost power during a stop in Salt Lake City.

AUG 23: BL returns from Florida trip via airplane
(?Where was the van parked?)

AUG 24: The couple were seen checking out of a hotel in Salt Lake City, Utah

AUG 25: Petito’s family spoke to her for the last time over the phone and she said she was in Grand Teton National Park

Last phone call between Gabby & her mom, Nicole Schmidt. Last Instagram post from Monarch Wall in Ogden, Utah.

AUG 25 - Couple spots van at 5pm at Jenny Lake - alerts LE 9/17 they saw it

Aug 27-Gabby and BL at Merry Piglets, a Tex-Mex restaurant, between 1 and 2 p.m. on Aug. 27, when they said an agitated BL began arguing with a waitress.

AUG 27 - Gabby's uncle posts there was a snapchat Gabby sent a friend -heading to Yellowstone (in Dailymail article)

AUG 27-a Van is seen in the side of the road and youtubers post it - MSM picks up the story - could be Gabbys
In the video the lady says it was recorded Aug 27, 2021 at between 6:00 to 6:30 PM

AUG 27 & 30: text messages from Gabby’s phone sent to mom

After August 30th, Gabby’s parents weren’t able to get in contact with Gabby or her fiance. Her fiance’s mother also was not responding to any phone calls.

AUG 29- BL is picked up at 5:30pm while hiking alone in Grand Teton (tiktok reported in MSM) offers to pay for a ride

B alleged that Laundrie had confessed to camping at an unregulated site in the National Park "in the middle of nowhere along Snake River."
(Note - this is not confirmed)

AUG 29 Elk hunters spot van

AUG 30: Text from Gabby to Mom - “No service in Yosemite”

August 31: A new list titled “Self-Consumption” appeared on the couple’s Spotify

SEP 1: BL returns home to FL alone according to his parents, (retains an attorney we don’t know when) & is uncooperative with the investigation
Gabbys Van enters at 10:26am Sept 1

Sept 2 -9: ?

Sept 2/3 or 9/10 - Neighbor spots BL outside mowing and bike ride with his Mom

Sept 2?-4?- neighbor says family went camping with the truck and camper for 3 days

SEP 10:: Gabby’s mother texted BL and his mother, RL, trying to get in touch with Gabby, but neither replied. The family alerted the National Park Service.

Sept 10- Incident with Gabbys Dad -redacted police report Links her Dad to a police response at the home where his daughter lived with BL and his parents at 6:30 p.m. on Sept. 10.

SEP 11: Gabby’s family report her missing 7 PM

Sep 11: Van seized at the home of BL parents in NorthPort FL - FBI

Sept12-15- working on which cars were in the driveway-
Camper, Truck, Mustang

Sept 14 - Reporter Brian Entin reports there is no mustang in the driveway
(Tuesday)

Note placed on Mustang at the preserve: The note had requested the car be removed, but the family left the vehicle there until Thursday, hoping he’d return to it, Bertolino told the New York Post.

However, video appears to show the car parked on the Laundrie’s driveway Wednesday, according to a Crimeonline report.

Footage from NewsNationNow reporter Brian Entin appeared to show the Mustang convertible back in the driveway on Wednesday night.

Sep 14: BL family lawyer issues statement

Note: a vehicle left driveway at 6:04pm

Sept 15: NorthPort police names BL as Person of Interest

Sept 15: Gabby's family issues another statement

Sep 15- Northport police chief asks BL lawyer to assist in finding Gabby

Sep 17 - FBI takes over search in WY (GTNP =Grand Teton National Park)

Sept 17- BL family asks police to come to their home

Sept 17- LE at BL home - he is declared missing by his parents as of Tuesday

Parents admit driving the mustang back home after finding it at the preserve

Sept18- searches for Gabby and BL

Sept 19- searches for Gabby and BL planned

Sept 19 - FBI press conference - offers condolences to Gabby's family - body found believed to be Gabby

Found near where the van bloggers video showed the van parked on August 27 (6-6:3opm)

Investigators left a cross made from rocks at the site where Gabby's body was found

Sept 20- Search Warrant Served at home of BL parents by FBI - Mustang registered to CL towed away

Sept 21 - autopsy of Gabby at 1pm
Sept 21 - confirmed remains are Gabby
sept 21- search resumes for BL
Sept 22- search for BL in preserve
Sept 23- search for BL in preserve
Sept 23 - BL parents leave in the truck this morning and return with the Mustang and then leave again followed by LE
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WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 8/25/21 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE No discussion*

Mustang ownership and tow: Gabby Petito case: FBI agents swarm Brian Laundrie's home in Florida
9/23/21 - Parents leave: Brian Laundrie’s parents seen leaving home, followed by caravan of police

Gabbys dad Sept 10-Gabby Petito's dad linked to incident at Laundrie home evening before she was reported missing


Elk hunters sighting

Search intensifies for Gabby Petito; police respond to Laundrie home in Florida

Reporter Brian Entin video he posted on Tuesday 9/14 at 6:04 pm and he said the parents had left an hour previously.


https://twitter.com/brianentin/status/1437930287170822152?s=21


Then video of them returning in a red truck.


https://twitter.com/brianentin/status/1437932624534769668?s=21

cross left by Investigators - Makeshift cross found in area where crews searched for Gabby Petito

neighbor interview - https://twitter.com/kristinthorne/status/1440724906690236417?s=21

it’s Gabby FBI confirms Gabby Petito's remains found in Wyoming; manner of death 'homicide'

Brian Entin
@BrianEntin
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Sep 23
The Laundries did leave this morning in the red truck. They returned home with the Mustang. And then left again in the truck.

Great job @oviedo Add this to timeline:

8/26:
Jessica Schultz told the San Francisco Chronicle that she saw Laundrie in the Spread Creek Dispersed Camping Area near the park on August 26. She said she was driving behind Laundrie while he was in the couple's white van alone, before he parked it on the side of the road.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Brian Laundrie's Parents Silent on His Whereabouts as They Leave Home

 

[MsBetsy]

Followed by LE? How strange.

LE must have the GPS data for the mustang by now. Has it been reported that it was returned by LE?

 

[coffeeandacig]

This is what I had wanted to know... for the benefit of those of us who aren't local, is the entire preserve passable, for want of perhaps a better word? or can you go off-piste into the swamp if you want?

As a local, and familiar with Carlton...You can hide there for months.
But, unless LE has information the public isn't privy to, then he isn't hiding there.

There are hiking/biking trails and horse trails that are very popular with the locals. Trail cams are there to catch anyone poaching the deers, hogs or anything else.
Go off trail, and you're taking big chances. Water moccasins are the worst. Aggressive, stealthy and very fast..."boom" you're dead.

BL can filter water if he needs, but the leeches may be a problem. The water around the cowboy camp is arsenic filled, so that may be a problem.
Finding food resources would be his greatest problem.

JMHO...He's a coward, and a granola eating wanna be, from Long Island. No way he's alive in Carlton living off the land like a native.
He may have hung out there for a day or two, but highly doubtful that he stayed.

 

[KidonGadol]

Anyone know if any news crews are following the Laundries either by car or air?

Hey this could be turning into the OJ SIMPSON Bronco Ride except in a Red PIckup truck this time !!
Squad cars tailing at respectful distance...


(I know I 'll get burned for saying this but I've made a few contributions to LE on this one that may yet bear fruit - esp on the odometer issue. )

Kidon Ha Gadol.

 

[Mike in WNY]

i think some people have taken the decrypting of those text messages a little far

only 1 or 2 people actually know what they mean and one of them is a homicide victim

I thought, if anything other than an actual name, "stan" meant 'enthusiast' or a 'fan' of something/someone. But, in this case, I think it means nothing more than someone's name.

 

[OtisC]

Maybe they are confident - or maybe they're just being thorough and checking it off the list. Imagine if he WAS there and they DIDN'T search the preserve. That's the kind of thing that could get someone fired.

IMO, he wouldn't park his car in plain site if he was hiding there. When you factor in all the other details, it seems obvious to me that his parents helped him escape.
-BL returns on Sep 1
-He and his family immediately lawyer up and do not respond to any of GP's parents calls & texts (big red flag)
-The mustang is found in plain site at the preserve
-His family buys a brand new camper and takes a 3-day road trip...mind you this is after they clearly know that something bad happened to GP and BL is in trouble. Who goes camping under these circumstances?

I missed the information that the camper was bought after he returned. Is that correct?

Also, is it a camper or just a shell for the truck bed?

Thanks for any info.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Infrared technology used in overnight searches for Gabby Petito's fiancé Brian Laundrie

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