Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #34

[Mandala]

Been reading these threads daily but can’t read all of them. The full dash cam video was scary to watch. So much more was going on in that relationship and I was angry that those cops treated BL like a buddy, laughing and joking with him and treated GP like crap. Who lets an extremely distraught 22 year old girl loose into the wilderness and puts the man up in a hotel?! This is how DV gets missed and so many end up dead. IMO they got into another fight and BL lost it and accidentally killed her. Then he panicked, told his parents and they helped him run away and hide. I believe he’s alive but won’t manage out there hiding for long and will either be found or eventually turn himself in. I hope I’m not wrong and the truth of what happened comes out.

 

[Jennihenny]

IMO-it doesn’t matter if he had a passport or not. This situation was unplanned. The enormity of what he did has been hitting him daily and I think at this point he is starting to acknowledge that his entire life as he knows it is gone. This had to have been an awful rage induced accident. I think he loved Gabby a lot (or he would not have gone back out there). He loves his outdoor lifestyle regardless of how truly “outdoorsy” it is.

Two questions:

1. did anyone see him at his house after the camping trip with his parents? Thinking of a drop off. I don’t think he was seen so he might not have returned with them (which means he’s not in the reserve).

2. Is it at all possible that they (parents with lawyer) are negotiating a plea for him while he is being hidden? Would that impact the search activities?

He didn’t love GP. He abused her and loved the power and control he had over a 110 pound girl. He didn’t truly love her because instead of calling 911 as soon as he got signal, he decided to take a hike (sarcastically) then come back to the van because he probably either changed his mind or got freaked out that he almost got lost. This is all MOO.

 

[Cecelia]

So many in the media are discussing Florida Law. They look dumb.

Yup. It's a federal case. Which they could clue in on by the fact that the FBI is involved.

 

[QuidProQuo]

I think you can make a lot of inferences based on what we're not seeing in the Carlton Reserve search. I've not seen any presence by the FBI at the park (organizing/managing overall efforts).

I believe if the FBI truly felt he was in the the reserve, we would have seen the park cordoned off at access roads, a more formalized grid search, increasing resources & personnel with each passing day.

<modsnip - please include links for quotes from MSM>

JMO

 

[cherrymeg]

You guys, you know how it’s perfectly legal for police to lie to subjects during an investigation? I’m wondering a similar thing about lawyers talking to the media. Are lawyers ethically/legally obligated to tell the truth on tv or in statements? Or are they allowed to muddy the waters?

I’m asking this in relation to BL’s parents lawyer who claimed in the last couple days he left his house without a wallet or phone. I’m just wondering if there’s any imperative that suggests this *has* to be true.

He could have left his phone behind while having several burners. Not using credit or debit cards, is another way to avoid detection. I think I was told once that lawyers don’t want you to confess your crime or crimes to them. I don’t think lawyers are supposed to encourage illegal behavior or know about a future crime or a continuing one. If parents communicate with their fugitive son that might be covered by privilege if he knows. He can have suspicions a lot of things or give hypothetical advice to his clients. It’s his job to create reasonable doubt.

 

[KAE]

Brian Entin on Twitter
The moving trucks are not at the Laundries house.
9:42 AM · Sep 25, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Brian Entin on Twitter
Should have given more context: lots of you are messaging me about moving trucks on the street. There are moving trucks but they are not at the Laundries. Different house.
9:45 AM · Sep 25, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

BBM
Yeah, if lived in that neighborhood, I'd get out the heck out of Dodge too! lol

 

[Parsnip]

IMO-it doesn’t matter if he had a passport or not. This situation was unplanned. The enormity of what he did has been hitting him daily and I think at this point he is starting to acknowledge that his entire life as he knows it is gone. This had to have been an awful rage induced accident. I think he loved Gabby a lot (or he would not have gone back out there). He loves his outdoor lifestyle regardless of how truly “outdoorsy” it is.

Two questions:

1. did anyone see him at his house after the camping trip with his parents? Thinking of a drop off. I don’t think he was seen so he might not have returned with them (which means he’s not in the reserve).

2. Is it at all possible that they (parents with lawyer) are negotiating a plea for him while he is being hidden? Would that impact search activities?

I think the time to negotiate would have been while GP was still missing and it would have been in exchange for information about her whereabouts. Given the timing of the hiring of the lawyer, that lawyer’s advice that they remain in the background, and the lawyer’s particular verbiage (“difficult time for both families”, Hoping GP is “found” and “reunited” with her family, IMO, the lawyer, BL, and likely his parents all knew she was dead and would be recovered without their assistance.

 

[bellyup]

Scratches are not equal to whatever he did to cause her death and I am not sure if who started it comes into a murder conviction.

Self defense could absolutely come into play in a murder conviction. Good luck convincing them jurors that GP made you fear for your life though.

 

[jamicat]

I've never heard of getting a passport in one day. Even 30+ years ago mine took longer than that (Weeks, not months) . Regardless, COVID has slowed processing down quite a bit. I doubt BL could get a quickie legit passport. A fake one, no telling.
JMO

Yes, there were places one could walk in and get a passport in one day. My family has done that. No idea if one still can

MOO, doubt he did. Very much. I think he’s near home, at a close friend or relatives’s place , mingling with the homeless. If he’s going to leave country, don’t need ID to get into Mexico

 

[Periwinkl3]

The case has connections to Florida, New York, and Wyoming/Utah/national parks, so it interests people across the country, as well as multiple social media platforms. Privacy is gone, everything is shareable. No holds are barred any more. Add the young love goes horribly wrong and it was bound to explode. It'll reverberate for years.

 

[PommyMommy]

SEP 25, 2021
Gabby Petito: The search for Brian Laundrie in a swampy Florida nature reserve enters its second week - CNN
[...]

"We're looking through wooded areas, we're looking through bodies of water, we're looking through swampy areas," North Point Police Commander Joe Fussell said in a video shared online Friday. "And we're deploying the resources to be able to do that. We have air units, we have drones, we have the swamp buggies, air boats, multiple law enforcement agencies, we have ATVs, we have UTVs and we have officers on foot as well."

[...]

The conditions are challenging with murky water, muddy roads and thick vegetation, according to videos shared by North Port police. "Rough is an understatement," Taylor said Thursday of the conditions in the reserve.
He said Saturday's and Sunday's efforts will be focusing on "areas of more likelihood."

[...]

 

[Gardenista]

NM, that link was a hot mess

 

[SuperTmo]

Maybe it's changed in recent years, but I've been able to go into NYC and get my passport in one day, no waiting period.

That might be the case if you need an urgent passport for like life threatening emergencies or something, but it’s not easy to prove (or guaranteed to be accommodated!) when you request an appointment for same day processing. We just submitted expedited passport apps yesterday and we’ll be lucky if they are back in 6 weeks. They told us it could be 8-12. For expedited!

 

[jamicat]

I think you can make a lot of inferences based on what we're not seeing in the Carlton Reserve search. I've not seen any presence by the FBI at the park (organizing/managing overall efforts).

I believe if the FBI truly felt he was in the the reserve, we would have seen the park cordoned off at access roads, a more formalized grid search, increasing resources & personnel with each passing day.

Also, not to parse words, but Commander Fussell of North Port PD said Friday (with regards to the increasing critiques from the public on the futility of the search), "we are doing our due diligence". To me, that's a close cousin to 'exhausting every possibility' (they're not investigating anything substantive but rather completing a comprehensive search based on their interviews with the Laundrie family).

JMO

Searching in there is nearly futile and horrible grueling work. Throw in the fact that he might not be there and that a lot of LE firmly believe he is not, makes this search even more difficult.

 

[Mike in WNY]

The case has connections to Florida, New York, and Wyoming/Utah/national parks, so it interests people across the country, as well as multiple social media platforms. Privacy is gone, everything is shareable. No holds are barred any more. Add the young love goes horribly wrong and it was bound to explode. It'll reverberate for years.

For balance and perspective... While I'm sure there are loads of folks all over that find this fascinating, note that the newspaper in New York State's second largest city (Buffalo) - and a border city, too - says not a word about it as a featured story. If it was of high interest in Buffalo & Western New York, it'd be featured, trust me. ( buffalonews.com | Read the latest Buffalo, NY, and Erie County news from the Buffalo News. Get headlines on local weather, entertainment, and events. ) Same is true for Rochester New York ( Democrat and Chronicle - Rochester news, sports, things to do in Rochester NY )

 

[Simply Southern]

So many in the media are discussing Florida Law. They look dumb.

Yup

Makes me appreciate @Alethea so much!!! We have a federal defence attorney right here, reading, sharing thoughts and providing expert legal interpretation. OMG!!!!

Maybe somebody needs to let the media know who they should be "following" for the best, accurate understanding of federal law.

Just can't thank you enough @Alethea !!!

Moo...and I'm sure a lot more on the thread♡♡♡

 

[lizzied]

Regarding the Labor Day trip. . .Can anyone out there tell me if the family had a history of going camping? It it to me not something one does on a whim..preparation, food, mapping the place you will stay, open site to put camper. It seems odd. JMO.

 

[justbeachy]

Maybe it's changed in recent years, but I've been able to go into NYC and get my passport in one day, no waiting period.

There is a passport agency in Miami but I highly doubt he got an emergency passport. There are only 2 reasons he could get one (life or death emergency and urgent travel) and both require proof.

Passport Agencies

IMO

 

[jamicat]

Not true, why would I lie about getting it on the same day in NYC if that weren't true? I went in PERSON I didn't do it by a mail in application. Maybe you should check your own state and it's abilities to provide same day passports. Mine wasn't for emergency reasons at all, nothing life threatening.

True. Same here. As of pre Covid restrictions, it was possible. I went through process with family members s number of times. You walk in, stand in line, give your app and info , leave for several hours and return to pick up new passport. There is a surcharge involved. There was a place in Manhattan and one in Connecticut that offered the service.

 

[FLmom777]

Why would a judge consider someone charged with bank card hijinks and no previous criminal record to be a serious flight risk? That is his current charge, nothing else. A good lawyer will have him out in no time. Setting an unusually high bond for a misdemeanor, could prejudice the government's case later on. If the government amends his charges to a series of felonies and a murder charge later on, I can see either a high bond or no bond.

His current charges include felony charges.