Jinkasaurus
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Maybe the mods could include this in the first post of each page... so everyone can easily see it.
In my opinion BL taking off and not talking to LE shows a consciousness of guilt.
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This is an outstanding transcript of the call cited with the recording. It goofs up a few times, but is searchable and I found it helpful. If not allowed, PLEASE remove!!!He did. Also scratches on right side of his neck, and nails marks on his left side and red mark on his right arm. She had a scratch and red mark on right side of jaw. LE took photos.
That is why LE came to the conclusion that did, and of course the matching statements by Gabby and Brian. Brian also admitted to them BOTH getting physical.
It is a long video, and we have in and out listening...so helps to view multiple times or you miss things.
Yes, I agree. Thank you. I just didn't want To go into that much detail in my post.Agree, though one point: he is wanted for fraud in an amount >$1000. That is not just one stop for gas. [A few people in a prior thread noted that the estimated cost to take that van from Wyoming to Florida would be ~ $270-330.]
IMO. Trying to verify BL’s location at those times. Did he go out to eat with them. Was he in north port at that timeI'm wondering what this is about too. If they used her card LE would know where it was used.
LOL. It is published in the entertainment section and spells his name "Laundry"
It certainly indicates LE isn't buying what the Laundrie are selling. Moo.Hopefully also to determine when BL went missing. If he were in a local restaurant on a specific day - we would know that he was seen in Florida. Now we really have no proof except the van returning on the 1st.
agree but it could be useful for exposure . maybe not the right kind but who knows where he is hiding?
Could well be hiding among a group of Doug The BH's fans?
Yes, I had the same impression of him projecting her fear of being stranded onto himself. I think he did take the keys from her in order to lock her out of the van.I said this in a previous thread but want to re-up it due to the conversation coming back full circle here.
I find the bodycam footage from 14:25 to 14:44 to be very interesting and confusing.
“She got a little worked up and she had her phone in her hands and her keys and everything — no not her keys, her rings — she had her rings, her phone, and I was holding on to the keys because I didn’t want her to go anywhere. My big fear is I don’t have my phone and I don’t really, I don’t have a phone, so if she goes off without me I’m on my own.”
1- Did he just mean his phone was in the car so if she drove off he wouldn’t have it? Because at 55:24 he takes his phone out of his pocket….so I assume he couldn’t have meant he didn’t *have* a phone…?
2- The keys/rings confusion made me do a second take. Could that story be a little backwards, and he was sort-of projecting *her* fear that he would leave her stranded (as the other police record states that she was afraid he would leave without her) and twisting that, gaslighting in a way, as if that was his fear, instead? Perhaps she did have the keys first and he grabbed them from her and threatened to leave which caused her to start freaking out.
I just find that fishy, and am just trying to make sense of that language, because it immediately seemed deflective/defensive/over-explanatory to me (MOO), and upon further review still feels a little ‘off’ when I continue to listen back. Like he couldn’t get his story straight. It was the FIRST discrepancy I noticed when I listened to the video and it stuck out to me immediately.
It could also be a simple innocent mixup of words in a stressful situation with police.
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Agreed, but if her time of death can be established, and their phones can be traced in a manner that suggests he sent the messages, it would be excellent circumstantial evidence, as he never reported her missing, imo.
I didn't word that well. The highly unlikely theory meant they may have talked about how to handle a possible break up, GP would picked be up by Yellowstone girl and return to FL with her. He goes back with van. He leaves to marinate on this in sadness, hiking/camping and returns and she isn't there. He figures it may have already happened (the leaving with Yellowstone girl), waits for a while without any contact and figures she is super super angry. He gives up finding her and leaves...then, we'll, I already wrote all of that possibility. Just a possibility, mind you. Highly unlikely and if we can rule any of this out, it helps narrow our focus.[/QUOTE
What is it about BL that you think he is not capable of killing her or do not want him to be her killer?
Possibly, if parents wind up being indicted, we would learn more from affidavits...but I think they would, in that case, prefer a plea deal to a public trial. Just speculating. jmoIf brian is found deceased or is never found, how much information will be released to the public (regarding the homicide) without a trial?
BBMNo. He stalks off from campsite because they’ve been fighting. When he returns, she’s gone. She had told him she’s leaving. Maybe even taunted him as how she could do it. So he jumps into van snd heads home. Unaware that she is dead 200 yards from van. It’s not a likely scenario, IMo, but MOO, possible. He clearly left the campsite alone as he was found and given a ride going back to it at least twice. Unless there is some evidence that can point directly to BL as the one who killed GT, there are such possible scenarios. That’s what the fed prosecutor has to prepare for