Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #5

[PommyMommy]

Missing woman disappears after road trip with boyfriend as mom reveals message to authorities

Gabby Petito, 22, set out on a road trip with her boyfriend in a converted camper van in early July to tour National Parks, but she disappeared in late August and her family hasn't heard from her in more than two weeks. Now, her mother is pleading for help finding her daughter.

Nicole Schmidt, Petito's mother, said that the last verbal conversation she had with her daughter was on Aug. 25.

"I don't know if she left Grand Teton or not," Schmidt said. "I did receive a text from her on the 27th and the 30th, but I don't know if it was technically her or not, because it was just a text. I didn't verbally speak to her."

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The couple stopped in Grand Teton National Park on Aug. 25, Petito's last known location, before a planned trip to Yellowstone. They were traveling in a 2012 Ford white van that was converted into a camper.

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A spokesperson for the Jackson Police Department said that an "attempt to locate" call was recently filed for Petito. The Suffolk County Police Department is also investigating the case. Suffolk County PD declined to comment on Sunday.

Petito is 5’5" and has blonde hair and blue eyes. She has a triangle tattoo with flowers on her left arm and a "Let it be" tattoo on her right arm.

Anyone who has seen Gabby or has any information on the case should contact the Suffolk County Police Department at 1-800-220-8477.

WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 8/25/21 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE No discussion*


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[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Brian Laundrie has been officially named by LE to be a POI in this case which is still a missing persons case at this time. He may be sleuthed.

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[Tiff23fr]

Mod Note:

Suggestions of a publicity stunt while someone is missing is not victim friendly. Until LE suggests otherwise, Gabby is missing and WS will treat the missing persons case with the care and compassion a missing person deserves. Posts suggesting this is a stunt or hoax have been removed.

 

[CocoChanel]

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[pizzaman12]

It takes 1 day and 16 hours with no stopping and perfect driving conditions to reach Yosemite to his house in Florida. No way she sent a text on the 30th saying she was in Yosemite and he arrives in the van a day later at home. That text was sent somewhere on his way home, I think.

I believe slightly longer than that. Even if it was supposed to say Yellowstone, it's roughly 35 hours with no stopping

 

[NJ Lawyer]

If he is doing absolutely nothing to help find Gabby, he doesn't deserve protection from his family.

Most parents who love their children don't protect them in every circumstance. Some parents shop their children, even in murder cases.

They know Gabby, she lived with them for 2 years (I believe). If they are protecting their son despite the fact that a woman who had plans to join their family is missing, then I can't help but conclude that Brian's actions are a learnt behaviour and they're as bad as he is.

They are refraining from saying anything because they know it is too late. If they thought Gabby was alive, they would MAKE SURE their son said where he last saw her. They are not sitting back eating bon bons thinking about Gabby being lost, thirsty and starving. No. They are quiet because they know she is gone. He told his parents and it’s all protected by privilege (Parent-Child Privilege Act of 2003).

Since there is nothing they can do at this point to help bring her back alive; the parents are faced with:

1. Say nothing, which improves the chance her body will not be found in which case their son won’t go to jail forever (and he probably told them he did it bc she upset him so much) and doesn’t hurt Gabby herself because she has already passed.

2. Encourage the son to tell LE where he last saw her (or tell LE themselves), which means the victim’s family gets closure but the son goes to jail.

I am sure they hate that Gabby’s family can’t get closure but, since it won’t bring Gabby back alive, refraining from talking will likely keep the son out of jail. LE will have no idea where to search. Later in time he might give a BS story with a BS place but that is a risk because those stories are so easily proven wrong. Say nothing and then you can’t be proven to be lying.

 

[oceanstarryeyes]

Who reported it stolen? Which state was it stolen from?

If Gabby was missing and he was driving Gabbys van then the van was stolen.

 

[PrairieWind]

So if they knew something was wrong or that maybe their son committed a crime would they also now need legal representation?

Probably not. He isn't a fugitive. And they aren't required to let LE into their house to talk to him.

 

[pizzaman12]

If he was driving Gabbys van then the van was stolen.

They addressed it at one of the press conferences where the confirmed it was hers. To me, it didn't appear him having it would give them the ability to detain him.

 

[Betty P]

I really hope they have the best possible FBI team back tracking his drive from his Florida home back to wherever he left from. I guesstimate the van would do ~375 miles on a tank so around 6 stops for fuel alone. I feel as things stand this is one of the only things related to BL they can do right now but it could at least narrow down a starting point?

Long shot but would a cell phone company (or CEO thereof) off the record share the mobile data/pings with LE in an exceptional circumstance or is that simply not legal?

All LE has to do is ask a judge for a search warrant to analyze the phone and data. In this case, it would probably be approved. There's no need to sneak around. Has a judge denied a SW for the phone and data?

 

[pittie_mcclure]

Or he doesn’t feel comfortable talking to police?
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the idea that not talking to police makes you a monster is scary. So many innocent people have cooperated and ended up in jail for horrible, violent crimes they haven’t committed including spouses, significant others, etc. People have been EXECUTED for crimes they didn’t commit. That’s why so many people lawyer up today. It’s the smart thing to do.

We also don’t know BL doesn’t want to talk and just isn’t being allowed to. I know he’s an adult but 22 is young and if his parents and lawyer are telling him don’t speak or you’ll go to jail he might be scared too. We don’t know what he’s being told. I am not defending him AT ALL but actually we have no idea if he’s trying to kill himself out of anguish or has his feet propped up eating Doritos watching all of this. They’re both so, so young. Again, as I end all my posts, my heart is with her family and I can’t imagine the pain they are in not knowing where GP is.

i mainly hope she’s alive and well. If she isn’t and he’s responsible he deserves to rot. But we don’t know.

 

[SAMS]

Moab homicide victims told friends if something happened to them, they were murdered



So they were fighting in front of the place where this deceased couple worked, just hours before they died?

Strange.. seems like drugs and a storage locker were involved with the prior couple who were murdered..

It seems BL didn't want to give DNA when the police asked him for a water bottle but the couple was murdered a day (or the midnight) OF/AFTER the police came for the domestic violence call?

Who called the police? 'Christopher'???

Was GP/BL's car searched during the 1 hour traffic stop?

From your post:

Moab homicide victims feared for their lives
Kylen Schulte, 24, and Crystal Turner, 38, disappeared after a visit to Woody’s Tavern in Moab on Friday Aug. 13. That weekend, they called friends to say they planned to move their campsite because of a “weirdo” in the area. According to the warrants, they found the man more than just weird.

“Investigators were informed that Kylen had mentioned to her friends that if something happened to them, that they were murdered,” the warrants said. “Kylen had continued by saying there was a ‘creepy man’ around their camp, and they had been intimidated by him.”

I wonder if there was more said to friends, describing this “creepy man”? MOO

 

[SuziQ]

He was going to leave her there alone? What timestamp was that where you heard that? I heard him say they were going to each walk in different directions to cool off, and then return to the van.

Read the police reports. There is a lot in the reports that's not in the video for some reason. The report has the statement about him leaving. Imo, I think there is another officer who contributed info to the report but his cam footage was not released. That's the only thing I can figure.

Here's an article on the "zone of death" and legal loopholes.

Fact check: Yellowstone's 'death zone' may not be free from conviction

This was brought up a lot in the Vallow/Daybell thread. It was pretty much debunked because there are no lawless places in the US. Legal Eagles will have to weigh in though.

 

[I wonder]

Because if he is innocent he only hurts himself taking to LEO who has it in their mind he is guilty.

Certainly publicly LE are stating that currently they do not suspect criminality.

Also, if he is 'innocent', how could speaking to LE hurt him? He's a white young man. It doesn't appear that he has a criminal history and there is a video portraying him as a domestic violence victim.

I realise the US justice system isn't perfect, but I don't see the police's priority or aim to stitch Brian up, IF he had no role in her disappearance and whatever has happened to her.

 

[Satchie]

Because if he is innocent he only hurts himself taking to LEO who has it in their mind he is guilty.

Yes, the boyfriend/spouse is usually the first suspect in cases that are officially declared to be homicide, but if he didn't do it, or police can't prove he did it, he isn't charged.

There are plenty of cases where the woman was murdered by someone else, or she had an accident, or committed suicide. No reason to fear police are going to manufacture a case against you in the US.

 

[pittie_mcclure]

Okay, so he never planned on leaving. Thank you.
If he had her phone then how did she hit him in the face with it?
I agree, it should have never got to the point where he had to jump in the van and lock the doors to keep her from hitting him. It's a sad situation all around.

exactly. Thanks for this post.

 

[Rocky1]

Moab homicide victims told friends if something happened to them, they were murdered



So they were fighting in front of the place where this deceased couple worked, just hours before they died?

Strange.. seems like drugs and a storage locker were involved with the prior couple who were murdered..

It seems BL didn't want to give DNA when the police asked him for a water bottle but the couple was murdered a day (or the midnight) OF/AFTER the police came for the domestic violence call?

Who called the police? 'Christopher'???

Was GP/BL's car searched during the 1 hour traffic stop?

Interesting. Do you think that's the reason BL didn't take the water? Think LE was trying to trick him into giving them his DNA when all they were doing was pulling him over for speeding and hitting the curb?
No, the van was not searched. I guess LE didn't feel there was a need to search it.

 

[cuffem]

Or he doesn’t feel comfortable talking to police?
He might be guilty as sin but the lynch mob in here is despicable.

Most of the cases on here I am opposed to the pitchfork crowd but not this case.
If he was only uncomfortable talking to police he could at least release a statement regarding Gabby's last location through his parents or lawyer.

 

[NJ Lawyer]

Totally unpopular opinion but...

With all due respect and empathy to Gabby's parents, they assume a great deal without any facts, in this letter.

1. They assume their son has told them where he left Gabby.
If they're not responding to Gabby's family, and Brian isn't talking, how would they know this? At this point, literally no one knows if he's told them anything, and if he did, if it was the truth.

2. They accuse Brian's parents of not helping and putting them through this, keeping Gabby's location hidden and putting Gabby's younger siblings through this.
None of us, and that includes Gabby's family, know if Brian's parents know a thing about the details.
If they don't know anything, they can't help, and they're certainly not the ones putting Gabby's siblings through anything or keeping Gabby's location hidden.
The sole person responsible for her disappearance, is the one guilty of that.
And we still don't know who that person is.

3. They go as far as bashing their character by asking "if they have any decency left".
I completely get that they're hurting deeply, but trashing Brian's parents seems rather unfair and unhelpful, considering the abundant lack of info and details.

Now, if it turns out the parents of Brian did know details and refused to help, I'll eat this post and all the crows y'all can find.

jmo

You’re missing the point. Brian’s parents could simply say “we don’t know where she is bc Brian didn’t tell us”. They don’t have to “know the details” to at least say that.

 

[borndem]

Try this very speculative scenario: They were arguing outside, and things got hot -- he raised his hand to slap her, and she stepped back, stumbled and fell down a cliff -- he screamed and tried to grab her -- too late -- and he looked to go down to get her and she was nowhere -- down, down, down she went. He panicked and left and just drove away. On the drive home, he thought that there was probably no way LE would buy it, so he just didn't talk. And now, he knows that the truth will sound very suspicious...
Not trying to give him an excuse, just thinking that what happened wasn't a murderous act on his part -- maybe she slapped him first. Instead of calling 911, he panicked and got into the van and ran. Could this be involuntary manslaughter?