Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #62

[Sleuthine]

Maybe they went swimming?

When I read about this in the last thread I also immediately thought about swimming. Maybe some of these items are swimming trunks. But the shirt change is indeed a bit puzzling. IMO

 

[Shellinaya]

Can I take a moment to address the involvement of John Walsh and Dog the Bounty Hunter. I know a lot of user think they are "trash" or "garbage" or even just seeking attention or eyeballs. I can understand this point of view, but I am thankful for their involvement. They are bringing attention to other audiences, eyes that are perhaps not here on WS or a part of this community.

I generally believe they are trying to advance the case. The more places this monsters face is published, the smaller the area he can hide. If you are advancing this search and bringing the case even an inch closer to being solve I am happy to have to see it! Bring all the attention and Eyeballs we can get!

I'm sure they are both anti-murder, as are most people. I will post this recent comment of DTBH's without comment.


"Reality TV star Dog the Bounty Hunter thinks Laundrie is alive and warned that the fugitive could face the death penalty if convicted.
Dog told The Sun: “Wyoming is only one of the only states that still have the death penalty.

“The jury sentences the death penalty – not a judge. It goes to a jury. I don’t think a jury would put a man to death if he went to keep his woman quiet and he suffocated her.

“But woe onto him if he did anything else – that jury in Wyoming is going to hang him."

Laundrie is 'ALIVE & will get death penalty if guilty of Gabby murder'

 

[bestill]

Look at this photo of her back from their SM. Does anyone besides me see bruises?

Gabby's pal spots 'bruise' on face & says cops 'left her to fend for herself'

Around her neck?

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I have this feeling that LE/FBI knows exactly who was driving that van from WY to FL. If BL was using Gabby's debit card for gas and food, there's a paper trail and video of whoever was in that van and we just don't know yet.

JMO

I agree. And it seems like if there were someone else there on the trip with him that he wouldn't have had to use her credit. They would have used the second person's funds.

 

[whiterhino]

Look at this photo of her back from their SM. Does anyone besides me see bruises?

Gabby's pal spots 'bruise' on face & says cops 'left her to fend for herself'

I think it's a combination of sand, shadows, birthmark/mole, muscle tone/flexing the shoulder. There is a mark on the right side of GPs' neck that could be from BL grabbing her?

The marks on her back, scapula/shoulder area, seem like an odd spot for BL to have been "touching" but Idk?

 

[Bertha96]

When I read about this in the last thread I also immediately thought about swimming. Maybe some of these items are swimming trunks. But the shirt change is indeed a bit puzzling. IMO

Although young boys out in nature could get into a lot of stuff that would soil or dampen their clothing resulting in having to change their clothes. IMO.

 

[Addicted2Crime]

IF he is found deceased, will they release more details of the investigation? Or will everything remain forever sealed/out of the public eye?
If they have enough evidence that BL was the perpetrator (if he is found deceased) would they close the case? At the moment I can't think of a similar case with those circumstances and the result of said case. IMO.

I’ve been wondering the same thing.

 

[labradoodlelover]

Look at this photo of her back from their SM. Does anyone besides me see bruises?

Gabby's pal spots 'bruise' on face & says cops 'left her to fend for herself'

I see bruises, too

 

[samanthadaniels1995]

It might just be DTBH's strategy. Trying to say hey, I don't think you're a bad person ,accidents happen. LE takes that approach a lot when they are interviewing someone hoping for a confession. IMO.

While we are on the subject of sleep deprivation and driving, I found a paper published by .gov that reviews a sleep disorder related to rage and murder. Disorders of Arousal From Sleep and Violent Behavior: The Role of Physical Contact and Proximity.

Measurements and Results:
A total of 32 cases drawn from medical and legal literature were reviewed. Each case contained a record of violence associated with Disorders of Arousal; in each, details of the violent behavior were available. Violent behaviors associated with provocations and/or close proximity were found to be present in 100% of confusional arousal patients and 81% of sleep terror patients. Violent behaviors were associated with provocation or close proximity in 40%–90% of sleepwalking cases, depending on whether the legal verdict and other factors were taken into account. Often the provocation was quite minor and the response greatly exaggerated. The specific manner in which the violence was triggered differed among sleepwalking, confusional arousals, and sleep terrors.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Ted Williams: Brian Laundrie’s behavior ‘befuddling’ after Gabby Petito went missing

Williams said prosecutors need to prove ‘conscious of guilt’ against Laundrie

TED WILLIAMS:

Well, what you have here, unfortunately, at this stage, is more of a circumstantial evidence case. But there have been many individuals convicted on circumstantial evidence. What you have to show, also, here is something that we, as lawyers say, something called conscious of guilt.

And that is the fact that Brian Laundrie returned home on September 1st, without Gabby. And you've got to believe, Neil, that if they lived in a house with Brian's mother and father, the first thing you say is, ‘where is Gabby?’

And so it's just befuddling that on September 6th through 8th, you're going to go camping with Brian without without Gabby. All of these things are part of the puzzle. I would have to also believe that at this stage, the FBI has some physical evidence and they are trying to put that together.

I can tell you what our defense attorneys are going to do in this case. And that is they're going to say, yeah, they were out there in that Grand Teton Park. They had a fight.

Brian then took off and came back across country. He doesn't know what happened to Gabby. I guarantee you that's going to be the defense in this case.

What "we" the public have is a boatload of circumstantial evidence and a glaring display of consciousness of guilt but he has no idea what direct evidence LE has. MOO

Him banking on that defense (which is a loser IMOO even as it stands now), would be a grave mistake. He needs to find out the state's evidence. And, that includes the autopsy and crime scene evidence. The van is likely a complete loss. MOO

 

[Mom24]

I’m very curious how the coroner’s office would know right away that her manner of death was homicide before an autopsy was done if it was strangulation and not something more obvious like gunshot, knife, or blunt force trauma. Would her neck be obviously bruised over 3wks later when she was found?

definitely not stating I don’t believe them. I’m just surprised that they were so sure in the beginning on manner of death and am curious how much they could tell about it without an autopsy yet. Normally they don’t come right out and immediately give manner of death.

Yes, bruising would still be there. When someone dies the bruising doesn't disappear like it does when a person is alive. There would be a broken hyoid bone along with bruising and contusions on the chin. When someone is strangled they inherently put their chin down and as they do, their chin will become bruised and roughed up. There will also be damage to the larynx and nearby lymph nodes. Additional MRI findings will also verify any internal damage, specifically to the larynx, thyroid and ligaments around the neck. Most people will also instinctively scratch their own necks to stop the strangulation, so there will often be scratch marks. And lastly, there would petechial hemorrhages around the face, eyes and neck, little purple splotches indicative of asphyxiation but in combination with all the other findings, would indicate strangulation rather than being suffocated.

 

[Blue Amethyst]

The court documents posted a few times in the thread do confirm manual strangulation.

I am just catching up. Poor Gabby, she must have been terrified and felt so betrayed. Her death was so unnecessary. He could have walked away.

You just don’t expect someone who you love to turn against you like that. I feel so bad for her and her family.

 

[citygirl]

Dr. Blue was asked the question 2 times and both times he refused to answer how she was strangled. So manual strangulation should be off the table for discussion.

Here is the link to press conference w/Dr. Blue

It's now fairly clear to me. Exam was hampered by the fact that the body was out in the elements for 3 to 4 weeks.
UGH and MOO.

 

[Speculaytor]

Ted Williams: Brian Laundrie’s behavior ‘befuddling’ after Gabby Petito went missing

Williams said prosecutors need to prove ‘conscious of guilt’ against Laundrie

TED WILLIAMS:

Well, what you have here, unfortunately, at this stage, is more of a circumstantial evidence case. But there have been many individuals convicted on circumstantial evidence. What you have to show, also, here is something that we, as lawyers say, something called conscious of guilt.

And that is the fact that Brian Laundrie returned home on September 1st, without Gabby. And you've got to believe, Neil, that if they lived in a house with Brian's mother and father, the first thing you say is, ‘where is Gabby?’

And so it's just befuddling that on September 6th through 8th, you're going to go camping with Brian without without Gabby. All of these things are part of the puzzle. I would have to also believe that at this stage, the FBI has some physical evidence and they are trying to put that together.

I can tell you what our defense attorneys are going to do in this case. And that is they're going to say, yeah, they were out there in that Grand Teton Park. They had a fight.

Brian then took off and came back across country. He doesn't know what happened to Gabby. I guarantee you that's going to be the defense in this case.

Fleeing as BL has done can be used to establish consciousness of guilt. This is what OJ Simpson was up against with the Branco chase. The prosecutors were trying to use it to show consciousness of guilt, but defense argued he was going to visit Nicole's grave.

 

[ce4au]

This is all speculation & I took a break from these threads this weekend so I apologize if this has been discussed. I’ve really tried looking & didn’t see it.
So this is pure speculation regarding how long it took to release the COD. I do think that the coroner & the FBI have known the COD for a while. The FBI wouldn’t want to release that info. However, Wyoming state law requires it.

“The Teton County Coroner’s office is committed to transparency, but information released to the public is determined by Wyoming State Law. This public information is name and age of the decedent and the cause and manner of death...”
(Coroner | Teton County, WY).

I think that there was a delay in releasing it because the FBI always doesn’t wanna do that, however state law requires that it be released. So, they had to go thru & decide what they would & would not allow the public to know. What piece of information would they keep back that “only the killer could know.”

All JMO & pure speculation.

 

[CharlestonGal]

It's federal land.
Bridger-Teton National Forest - Dispersed Camping Areas (Undeveloped Campground)

It doesn't matter. The statute clearly says the state retains civil and criminal jurisdiction in national forests established in their state, except when the offense is against the United States.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

You’re probably right, but adrenaline is a strange thing, too. If he left shortly after killing her, I bet his adrenaline was thru the roof. JMO. I agree a normal person would have to stop for rest, but a person that had just killed someone & their adrenaline is thru the roof…maybe not? Idk… All JMO.

He had more than 36 hours to play with, though. More like 60. So most likely he did stop and rest few times. Even if it was just pulling over in the van. Otherwise he would have gotten to North Port well before 10:30am on Sept 1st. I am not a doctor, but I doubt that someone would be able to function in a heightened state of adrenaline for that long a period of time. Usually it lasts up to an hour. Things like adrenaline crash, and adrenaline exhaustion can happen. And we know he visited with Cassie and the kids on the same day he came back, on Sept 1st. JMO.

 

[LMDlong]

Could it have been early morning as well?

Very true.

 

[Shellinaya]

Around her neck?

In that photo I posted from The Sun article there is a big bruise on her neck, as well as smaller bruising across her right back.
Or what LOOKS like bruising.

 

[Trebor5591]

WTH????

Dog The Bounty Hunter Calls Brian Laundrie ‘A Gentleman’ And Says He Killed Gabby Petito While Calming Her Down (msn.com)

Snip

“I was told by a very close source that he was a gentleman,” he told The Sun as he recounted some of the ideas in his head about how Laundrie may have reacted after killing Petito.

The Sun headline is overstated. Read the article. Nowhere does Dog say Brian killed Gabby while calming her down. This is a sensationalized interpretation of what Dog said about the Moab DV incident:

I know that she was very verbal because as they were arguing one time, the vacationers around them heard her yelling,” Dog said. “I know that he calmed her down usually by grabbing her mouth like that.”
​

The Sun took this statement and twisted it to make it appear Dog was speaking about Gabby's murder when he was actually speaking about the Moab incident. I am a little hesitant to defend Dog (I've never heard of him before this case) because he does seem to be a rather outlandish character, but I get disgusted at the news media and their tricks to create controversy and sell more papers.