Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #74

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Let’s clear some of this up quick cuz this all gets confusing fast.
So Gabby and Brian did NOT live with his parents they lived in a condo owned by the Laundrie family. This was explained by Gabbys dear friend Rose who had spoken out a few times but limited due to it being active investigation. Fbi and LE have that info.
The condo was sold recently.
This also explains them having a storage unit as the condo was being sold.
What Brian and Gabbys plans were for AFTER their trip baffles me because obviously they knew the condo was being sold so where were they planing to live afterwards? Is this where them “extending the trip” comes into play? That maybe they thought they’d find a nice spot to live during their trip?

Speculation, jmo, moo, please excuse any typos
They were not living at the condo that was sold in July 31. The condo they lived at was sold in March 2021 so they lived with parents from March to June 2021 at wabasso house only
 
True, but I doubt that person would dismember and spread the pieces around. That's what I meant in my post by saying a gater, or other animal, got him. Didn't have to be what caused his death, but was why he's in pieces with not all accounted for. The only other reason I can come up being in pieces would be blowing yourself up which I TOTALLY DO NOT THINK HE DID.

So... animals did the strewing, cause of death is still unknown. I'm placing my bets (in order) on it 1) being by his own hand, or 2) an animal got him. A stranger, while it's possibly, isn't making my short list of possibilities.
While I am really uncomfortable typing this, I had a thought, is there any chance some of the damage to the body could be from the swamp buggies? If BL was underwater could that account for any of it?
 
Well if this is really BL, he's been there over a month, and very possibly has been dead the entire time. There are other animals in the area that are known to scavenge -- vultures, bald eagles (yes! We have them here, they are awesome), bobcats, maybe panthers, feral hogs (which usually eat plants but it's not unheard of for them to also eat carrion). I won't be surprised if it turns out that these remains are pretty widely scattered after a month of decomp in hot, humid, swamp conditions, whoever they prove to belong to.
Little Caylee Anthony was scattered. Not to be graphic but lots of animals maul their prey if in packs. Run off with their share.
 
Yes!!! I love watching his interviews as well. & agreed, it can get a little graphic, but he is SO knowledgeable & explains things in a way ppl can understand! He’s one of the main reasons I watch Nancy Grace’s show every day bc he’s on her panel. Haha! He did a good interview on Banfield last night!
Sorry, but who are you talking about? Thnx
 
I've been there twice and can't agree. The last place I wanted to be was yukking it up with family. Suicide is a somber, solitary business.
MOO

I do think there can be a difference between suicidal ideation due to clinical depression (a chemical imbalance in the brain) and suicidal ideation due to a specific life event. That's how I understand it. IMO.
 
I think they have anger toward the Laundries and their incredible betrayal of trust. jmo
I agree.
NPPD didn't like it that the Ls exercised their rights and hired an attorney.
Josh Taylor's anger was on display over it.
That's understandable but not professional.
As a result they didn't take the Ls seriously when they did start to communicate with the FBI.
CL went out to search with the FBI but Myakka was still flooded.
When the Ls told NPPD Tuesday night, according to BS, that they wanted to go search again the LEOs who met them were not even prepared to handle evidence properly.
I think all h**l is breaking loose at NPPD.
They've just lost face yet again over this investigation.

Sheriff Grady Judd of Polk County was critical of NPPD early on.
Here's what he said on 9/30
https://twitter.com/WFLAJB/status/1451221310030454788

Basically he said that if any of this had happened in his jurisdiction he would have handled things differently and BL would never have disappeared on his watch.
Grady Judd is a colorful character.
I can't until he weighs in on this case again!

jmho
 
Thank you. I was curious because many have commented on the possibility of an attack by some animal as COD. I agree that unless he shot himself and they find the skull, for example, we will never know. In that environment he could have died from infection from some untreated wound. Jmo
Gun would be found in area I think if he shot himself
 
Sorry, but who are you talking about? Thnx
We were talking about how we liked to watch Joe Scott Morgan be interviewed about this stuff! He is a forensic expert & professor of applied forensics (I think it’s applied forensics) at Jacksonville State University in Alabama.
I posted the interview he did last night on Banfield!
Here is the interview Joe Scott Morgan did last night on Banfield regarding all different questions about the remains - condition of remains, what questions he has, etc. It is pretty good!
 
Some additional information about environmental conditions and their impact on the recovery rates of cadaver dogs––

While bodies at depths of 180 feet (approximately 78psi) may never achieve flotation because the decompositional gases being released are insufficient to even reach natural buoyancy (i.e., zero weight), bodies in shallower depths will tend to rise to the surface (Osterkamp 908). The rate at which decompositional gases are released, and thus the rate at which a body will float, are strongly influenced by water temperature as well. At temperatures in the range of 30 degrees F, a submerged body may take months to the surface due to the extremely slow rate of decomposition, while a body submerged in water around 80 degrees F will decompose much faster and may float within a day or two (Osterkamp 908).

When it comes to cadaver dogs, it is important to understand that scent in not distributed in a linear manner. The scent from submerged human remains does not necessarily rise straight up to the surface of the water, but instead may be carried by the flow of the water a few feet to a great distance away from the body (Dorriety 720).

Even when a body is submerged under a significant amount of water, cadaver dogs that are specially-trained in water recovery can still pick up the scent. In one case, water-trained search dogs consistently alerted to a specific location in the lake and police used sonar to look for anomalies to indicate the presence of a body, but were unable to find any evidence of a body (Ruffell and Powell 130). Despite this, the police deployed a dive team to search the area of the lake the dogs alerted to and found the body of the missing man buried underneath a layer of silt at the bottom of the lake (Ruffell and Powell 130-1). Some cadaver dogs have also been able to locate the remains of drowning victims 250 feet beneath the water.

IMO, if Brian committed suicide shortly after entering the reserve, his body probably would have floated to the surface by the time police began searching the area (barring any predation)––even with the flooding, the water level looked to be a few feet at most, hardly enough pressure to weigh down a body. Additionally, given the warm air temperature and (I'm assuming) the relatively high temperature of the water, any remains would decompose and surface quickly, releasing the gases cadaver dogs use to sniff out corpses. I find it a bit hard to believe that cadaver dogs would not have alerted to the area in the early days of the search (if, in fact, the police previously searched that area) if Brian was already deceased, MOO.

Sources

Callahan, Marion. "Cadaver dogs sniffed out bodies 12 feet deep." Morning Call [Allentown], 23 July 2017, pg. A10.

Dorriety, Jonathan K. "Cadaver Dogs as a Forensic Tool: An Analysis of Prior Studies." Journal of Forensic Identification 57, no. 5 (2007): 717-725.

Osterkamp, Tom. "K9 Water Searches: Scent and Scent Transport Considerations." Journal of Forensic Sciences 56, no. 4 (2011): 907-912.

Ruffell, Alastair. "Lacustrine flow (divers, side scan sonar, hydrogeology, water penetrating radar) used to understand the location of a drowned person." Journal of Hydrology 513, no. 26 (2014): 164-168.

Ruffell, Alastair, and Neil Powell. "Search Strategy for Buried Objects in Water: Geophysics, Probes and Dogs." Forensic Sciences 1, no. 3 (2021): 130-137.
 
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