Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #78

[TL4S]

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It looks like JT mentioned the clothing.

Dental records show remains found are of Brian Laundrie, FBI says

"They are human remains, no doubt there. I would say that the remains were consistent with one individual, you know skeletal remains," North Port Police spokesperson Josh Taylor said in an on-camera interview with CNN.

Investigators found clothing believed to belong to Laundrie, he said.

"It's consistent with what he was believed to be wearing," Taylor said.

 

[dacjess]

Can you imagine if the Loudries held a funeral for Brian?
The outrage!
How dare they!
Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
jmho

Just to add my perspective… I am not a fan of how the Laundries behaved towards the Petitos. I don’t see a reason for ignoring calls or the posts sent by the lawyer. I think there were compassionate ways to handle everything respectfully without incrimination.
That being said, they are absolutely allowed and expected to grieve their son, regardless of what he did. If they want a funeral, they should have a funeral without fear of protestors. The protestors wanted BL found. He’s been found. I don’t have to agree with many actions of his family and they still have a right to grieve. They have to grieve the loss of everything they expected their lives to be and I’m sure they had memories with BL that they cherish.
jmo.

 

[Balthazar]

Daniela Hurtado @DaniCHurtado via Twitter – 12:53PM 9/28
NEW: Just got my hands on documentation from Pinellas County Parks. The check in report confirms Roberta Laundrie (#BrianLaundrie’s mom) did in fact check into Site 001 @ Ft. DeSoto Park on 9/6 and checked out on 9/8. It does not say who else was with her.
@mysuncoast

ETA: Oops, I copied that from the media thread and it looks like the link is bad. I'll find another...

Laundrie family changed Fort De Soto campground reservations before Brian returned home, docs show | Fox News
On Sept. 3, she made a new reservation for three people to camp on the weekend of Sept. 6-8. Other documents obtained by Fox News show the Laundries checked in to the campground on Sept. 6 and checked out on Sept. 8.

Yes, but we still don't know where they went after that. It is equally possible that they went to another campground as that they went home. There is just no way for us to know where they were Sept 9 - the day of the 11th with the information we have.

 

[x_files]

The fact that Gabby had lived w them and the really young age of both of them makes a difference. I could see the silence if the couple were older, and much less dependent upon their respective parents. jmo

I agree, she lived with them for 2.5 years approx. She was part of the family by then.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

A retired police officer is raising questions about how law enforcement handled the search for Brian Laundrie and the role that his parents played in locating evidence,

“If this was my case and I walked in there with the suspect’s parents, I would never let them out of my sight,” Joyce told the newspaper. “Rule number one is that you do not let that person go until you know exactly what you’re dealing with.

“Because we know that when bodies or articles of evidence are waiting there, usually when the person who put it down or is responsible for it being there, or who knows it’s there, will find it when things aren’t moving quickly enough. It’s their way of accelerating the case.”

“The whole thing is a mess. It’s a sh**show. The fact the parents found this article is so disturbing to me.”

“In my experience, every time an investigation came up, and there was like one thing happened, and another thing happened and someone said, ‘Wow, what a coincidence,’ nine times out of 10, coincidences were not coincidences.

“If I was leading the investigation as a supervisor to the agents, detectives, I would not let them dismiss that as a coincidence, unless they went through that 1000 times over,”

“He was supposed to secure the bag but not touch it. The law enforcement who went in with him should’ve specifically told him ‘if you see anything suspicious, do not touch it,'” Joyce told The Sun. “You’re supposed to just guard it and stand there so nothing happens to it. Then call out, whistle, shout or however they were supposed to stay in contact.”

“The fact he touched it means the evidence has already been interfered with. It’s now contaminated with his DNA.

“If law enforcement did instruct him to do that, and he still disregarded that and still touched it. I mean, he’s got a lot of explaining to do. And he’s gonna have to lawyer up.”
‘The whole thing is a mess’: Police Should Have Never Let Laundrie Parents Pick Up Fugitive Son’s Belongings, Expert Says

 

[TheGardener]

SB was hired before they found Gabby. It was not known that she was dead or that she had been strangled at that point.

...are you sure BL didn't phone home shortly after GP was murdered? Are you sure SB didn't "advise" the L's before he was officially "hired"? Where are the original cell phones?
MOOing...

 

[Cinna]

Nobody is saying on this thread that Gabby was perfect, did not make mistakes but SB’s statement lends towards callous victim blaming. In my opinion it equates to a statement “he may have assaulted her but she was wearing a short skirt she made mistakes too”. Should making mistakes lead to your death, because somebody has done good things in their life we get to mitigate them killing somebody? He might as well said yeah Brian killed her but Gabby did a, b and c. This statement disgusts me and the fact that the Laundries have chosen this type of person as their long term attorney and to speak for them says volumes to me about the kind of people they are. MOO

I don't believe SB was talking about people on this thread. And I don't believe he was blaming Gabby in any way. I don't want to take this any farther because I don't want to be accused of victim blaming myself. So I'll just say I disagree and leave it at that.

 

[LRinCA]

It looks like JT mentioned the clothing.

Dental records show remains found are of Brian Laundrie, FBI says

"They are human remains, no doubt there. I would say that the remains were consistent with one individual, you know skeletal remains," North Port Police spokesperson Josh Taylor said in an on-camera interview with CNN.

Investigators found clothing believed to belong to Laundrie, he said.

"It's consistent with what he was believed to be wearing," Taylor said.

From your link:

A source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN the notebook is "possibly salvageable." The source said the notebook was "outside of the dry bag."

"It had been clearly wet and they are going to use any potential means to dry that out before opening it," according to the source, who added: "They'll be very careful with it."

The source said it is unclear how the notebook ended up outside the dry bag.

 

[TheGardener]

A retired police officer is raising questions about how law enforcement handled the search for Brian Laundrie and the role that his parents played in locating evidence,

“If this was my case and I walked in there with the suspect’s parents, I would never let them out of my sight,” Joyce told the newspaper. “Rule number one is that you do not let that person go until you know exactly what you’re dealing with.

“Because we know that when bodies or articles of evidence are waiting there, usually when the person who put it down or is responsible for it being there, or who knows it’s there, will find it when things aren’t moving quickly enough. It’s their way of accelerating the case.”

“The whole thing is a mess. It’s a sh**show. The fact the parents found this article is so disturbing to me.”

“In my experience, every time an investigation came up, and there was like one thing happened, and another thing happened and someone said, ‘Wow, what a coincidence,’ nine times out of 10, coincidences were not coincidences.

“If I was leading the investigation as a supervisor to the agents, detectives, I would not let them dismiss that as a coincidence, unless they went through that 1000 times over,”

“He was supposed to secure the bag but not touch it. The law enforcement who went in with him should’ve specifically told him ‘if you see anything suspicious, do not touch it,'” Joyce told The Sun. “You’re supposed to just guard it and stand there so nothing happens to it. Then call out, whistle, shout or however they were supposed to stay in contact.”

“The fact he touched it means the evidence has already been interfered with. It’s now contaminated with his DNA.

“If law enforcement did instruct him to do that, and he still disregarded that and still touched it. I mean, he’s got a lot of explaining to do. And he’s gonna have to lawyer up.”
‘The whole thing is a mess’: Police Should Have Never Let Laundrie Parents Pick Up Fugitive Son’s Belongings, Expert Says

Can I like this 2 million times?

 

[simplemind]

On a Facebook group dedicated to the Gabby Petito case, users speculated about a close up picture of the dry bag recovered by Laundrie's father Chris Laundrie near where the body was fond.

Sleuths spot 'black box' in Laundrie's dry bag - and some think it's a GUN

I've looked at this picture a lot and agree there appears to be a black rectangular box in there. We know the reporter who witnessed much of this said ChL picked up the bag and a dark object which he placed in the bag. If it is a gun case it would be all the more confounding as to why ChL would pick up a gun case and put it in the dry bag and remove it from its location...
Also, full recovery of the remains and a gun could explain why the park was reopened so soon after the discovery even though FBI said it could take several more days initially. It wouldn't explain why the ME wasn't able to make an initial COD determination though...

 

[x_files]

His tough guy demeanor might have worked well over the years in real estate negotiations so he applies it to all interactions and in this investigation he's coming across as boorish. Or maybe he's just an a$$hat. Who knows?

true and esp in Long Island, NY.

 

[Cinna]

...are you sure BL didn't phone home shortly after GP was murdered? Are you sure SB didn't "advise" the L's before he was officially "hired"? Where are the original cell phones?
MOOing...

Of course I'm not sure. That's why I ended my post with "Everything is still supposition and may always be."

 

[housewife]

I don't disagree, we have no idea how his parents feel, or what lies BL told them.
It may appear very cold and indifferent to us, without hearing their side of the story we may never know.

Look at Casey Anthony, she lied about having a job and even walked the authorities inside the building where she used to work. Only then she confessed she wasn't employed.
I can't imagine trying to parent someone who is so adept at lying. I think it's possible Brian completely manipulated his parents and maybe never told them the whole truth at all.

 

[CharlestonGal]

See, and based on my own personal life experience it seems perfectly normal that if he came home and told the family that he and GP had broken up that the family would not have reached out to her or her family at all. When my fiancé and I broke up I never heard from his family again. Lovely people who I spent weekends, holidays, and vacations with. But they were his people not mine. And neither of our parents would have readily had contact info for the others.

If BL told his family that he and Gabby had broken up and she didn't want to drive back to Florida with him, but flew home to NY to her mom instead and he drove the van back, I think it would be very reasonable for them to let it lie, vs jumping to the conclusion that something terrible had happened and that they needed to immediately contact her or her family.

I can easily see a timeline where BL family wanted to cheer him up with a camping trip and he needed a phone because Gabby kept hers. Then they legitimately missed a call from Gabby's mom, because I never answer the phone. RL saw the voice mail, asked BL what happened. He says, mom a terrible accident happened (accident in that he wishes he could go back in time and do something different.) They called the lawyer, and the lawyer said do not speak to anyone about anything under any circumstances. By the time the police showed up on the 11th they handed them the contact info for the lawyer. Then depending on the timeline, BL was gone 2 days later.

I see so many people acting like BL is some criminal mastermind. I think he was just a confused, mixed up, semi-adult who did the worst thing he could imagine doing, and ran home to his parents. The whole time he's driving there he's doing his best to convince himself that *that thing* didn't really happen. He was able to pretend to himself until Gabby's mom called. I understand parents wanting to protect their children and calling a lawyer before her parents or the police. I don't necessarily think their intent was to help him get away with murder. They did as their lawyer instructed. Maybe they thought, if we do what the lawyer says he will only get 20 years instead of life.

There are a lot of moving parts here, but social media blew this up, partially, because they feel like they're entitled to know every thought that is going through the Laundrie's minds right now. And they just aren't. They say the Laundrie's aren't "acting right" but no one knows how many Xanax it may take RL to come out to get the mail. Or if she's crying all day, every day in her house. I don't think we have any concept of how the Laundrie's are acting at all, other than they aren't speaking to the media. I don't think it's fair to convict them in a court of public opinion for being silent.

All MOO of course.

Thank you for taking the time to type out every thought in my brain.

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

SB was hired before they found Gabby. It was not known that she was dead or that she had been strangled at that point. So they wouldn't have felt the need to hire a lawyer to handle a strangling case. We don't know what Brian told them or their reasons for hiring him at an early date. Everything is still supposition and may always be.

In my opinion they knew she was deceased, why have conversations with him prior to LE becoming involved? Per SB’s own words, he had conversations with all 3 from Sept 1st to the 11th prior to formally being retained on the 11th. MOO

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

I don't believe SB was talking about people on this thread. And I don't believe he was blaming Gabby in any way. I don't want to take this any farther because I don't want to be accused of victim blaming myself. So I'll just say I disagree and leave it at that.

What is the purpose of him saying Gabby was not an angel?

 

[Cinna]

In my opinion they knew she was deceased, why have conversations with him prior to LE becoming involved? Per SB’s own words, he had conversations with all 3 from Sept 1st to the 11th prior to formally being retained on the 11th. MOO

Brian committed other crimes. He took the van. He used her card. Those things alone are enough to warrant a lawyer. And who know what he told them? Again - just possibilities.

 

[Ruminations]

I get what you are saying, and you make some excellent points.

But I just don't think LE has the resources to pursue these avenues when worse crimes have to be investigated.

I don't mean worse crimes than Gabby's murder. I mean worse crimes than what the Laundries might have done afterward to protect him, just for clarification.

Agree. I think the Laundries could have committed several crimes- MOO- I don’t have LE’s info- innocent until proven guilty, etc.

If they did commit crimes as I strongly believe- what would be gained by bringing charges?

The point would be to punish and set a precedent.

They already lost their son- so they self punished.

Future obstructionists wouldn’t say to themselves, “That went well for the Laundries, let me try that with my murdering loved one.”

That doesn’t take away from me my horror at the way the Laundries have behaved (except Cassie), or my suspicion that some of that horrific behavior was criminal.

******************************

Gabby, Mom, Mom, Dad, Dad, siblings, I am so sorry for this life cut so short.

Gabby taught many people about DV. I just wish she didn’t have to literally put her whole life into it.

 

[x_files]

A retired police officer is raising questions about how law enforcement handled the search for Brian Laundrie and the role that his parents played in locating evidence,

“If this was my case and I walked in there with the suspect’s parents, I would never let them out of my sight,” Joyce told the newspaper. “Rule number one is that you do not let that person go until you know exactly what you’re dealing with.

“Because we know that when bodies or articles of evidence are waiting there, usually when the person who put it down or is responsible for it being there, or who knows it’s there, will find it when things aren’t moving quickly enough. It’s their way of accelerating the case.”

“The whole thing is a mess. It’s a sh**show. The fact the parents found this article is so disturbing to me.”

“In my experience, every time an investigation came up, and there was like one thing happened, and another thing happened and someone said, ‘Wow, what a coincidence,’ nine times out of 10, coincidences were not coincidences.

“If I was leading the investigation as a supervisor to the agents, detectives, I would not let them dismiss that as a coincidence, unless they went through that 1000 times over,”

“He was supposed to secure the bag but not touch it. The law enforcement who went in with him should’ve specifically told him ‘if you see anything suspicious, do not touch it,'” Joyce told The Sun. “You’re supposed to just guard it and stand there so nothing happens to it. Then call out, whistle, shout or however they were supposed to stay in contact.”

“The fact he touched it means the evidence has already been interfered with. It’s now contaminated with his DNA.

“If law enforcement did instruct him to do that, and he still disregarded that and still touched it. I mean, he’s got a lot of explaining to do. And he’s gonna have to lawyer up.”
‘The whole thing is a mess’: Police Should Have Never Let Laundrie Parents Pick Up Fugitive Son’s Belongings, Expert Says

YES! Thank you for posting this article.
I find the coincidence a bit hinky.

 

[x_files]

A retired police officer is raising questions about how law enforcement handled the search for Brian Laundrie and the role that his parents played in locating evidence,

“If this was my case and I walked in there with the suspect’s parents, I would never let them out of my sight,” Joyce told the newspaper. “Rule number one is that you do not let that person go until you know exactly what you’re dealing with.

“Because we know that when bodies or articles of evidence are waiting there, usually when the person who put it down or is responsible for it being there, or who knows it’s there, will find it when things aren’t moving quickly enough. It’s their way of accelerating the case.”

“The whole thing is a mess. It’s a sh**show. The fact the parents found this article is so disturbing to me.”

“In my experience, every time an investigation came up, and there was like one thing happened, and another thing happened and someone said, ‘Wow, what a coincidence,’ nine times out of 10, coincidences were not coincidences.

“If I was leading the investigation as a supervisor to the agents, detectives, I would not let them dismiss that as a coincidence, unless they went through that 1000 times over,”

“He was supposed to secure the bag but not touch it. The law enforcement who went in with him should’ve specifically told him ‘if you see anything suspicious, do not touch it,'” Joyce told The Sun. “You’re supposed to just guard it and stand there so nothing happens to it. Then call out, whistle, shout or however they were supposed to stay in contact.”

“The fact he touched it means the evidence has already been interfered with. It’s now contaminated with his DNA.

“If law enforcement did instruct him to do that, and he still disregarded that and still touched it. I mean, he’s got a lot of explaining to do. And he’s gonna have to lawyer up.”
‘The whole thing is a mess’: Police Should Have Never Let Laundrie Parents Pick Up Fugitive Son’s Belongings, Expert Says

YES! Thank you for posting this article.
I find the coincidence a bit hinky.