Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #79

[bluwaters]

Interesting to compare JT's demeanor now to his almost cockiness in the beginning.

I remember being shocked at JT's anger at the Ls because they exercised their rights and hired a lawyer.
I understand his anger but it seemed unprofessional to me to express to the media.
Inappropriate.
JT seems more humble now.

I do not believe JT and the NPPD are responsible for Brian's death.
I do think a lot of mistakes were made but Brian's death is not their fault.
jmho

 

[acutename]

it does, but it would be easy to replicate age on the bottle IMO

If it was the one from the van, it means that an item was removed from the van before it was seized, and maybe others were as well, IMO.

 

[ClottedCream]

Certainly. A high school friend killed himself that way. He put a plastic bag over his head and taped it shut around his neck. Sorry, grim I know.

Gosh, when I read Karen in NY ( are you THAT Karen…just kidding) question I assumed immediately that that would never happen. CharlestonGal, just wow how grim indeed

 

[10ofRods]

or then again, why would you pick a most uncomfortable spot in a swamp, that's flooded... why not check into the Quest, Mantra, Hilton.... or the shed at home?? ..

If your life is miserable enough, why would he add to that misery? deliberately??.. it doesn't scan.

People are very different from each other.

But it was not flooded on the day he went there (the 13th). It didn't start raining until the 15th, so perhaps he spent his last moments in comfort and repentence, alone in the wilderness, alone with his own spiritual dilemmas. Wouldn't be the first time someone did this, won't be the last.

 

[Cool Cats]

No one has come back to tell us how hard or how easy it was.. that's the problem here.. it's all situational. Nothing is definitive. Those that were successful, that is.. It may appear that Brian was one of those.. I am still going with C.L.U.M.S.Y. on the grounds that killing a woman is easy, it's done every day, some men kill multiple women, .....but Brian, a narcissist if ever I saw one, ,.. suicide would be unthinkable. His precious self!..... I just don't think so.

"Killing A woman is easy"

Really?

 

[bluwaters]

or then again, why would you pick a most uncomfortable spot in a swamp, that's flooded... why not check into the Quest, Mantra, Hilton.... or the shed at home?? ..

If your life is miserable enough, why would he add to that misery? deliberately??.. it doesn't scan.

BL loved it the area.
It's beautiful out there.
I can't see him choosing a hotel over being in nature.
As for the shed, I think he may not have wanted his parents to find him like that.
jmho

 

[Trooper]

Should it be determined that Brian's demise was suicide.. that would make him a multiple murderer.. of Gabby, and himself..

 

[mlhenn]

When did Brian Laundrie last speak to family's attorney?

Did Brian ever speak with family’s attorney?
Bertolino confirmed to 8 On Your Side he spoke with Brian before he was reported missing.

“I can tell you I last spoke to him Sept. 13 and I spoke to him Sept. 12,” he said. “Beyond that, there’s nothing further I am going to add.”

….


Did Brian’s parents search?

According to Bertolino, Brian’s dad Chris went out to the Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park on Sept. 13 after his son didn’t come home.

“Chris went out that night and looked for him,” the attorney said. “It was wet, it was rainy. Chris couldn’t see anything. It was dark.”

Bertolino said Chris and his wife Roberta went back to the park the next day, Sept. 14, and saw the Mustang with a “summons” for being parked overnight. He said the couple spent several hours walking around but couldn’t go off trail because the park was relatively flooded.

Chris and Roberta Laundrie returned to the park again on Sept. 15 and brought the Mustang home so it wouldn’t get towed, according to Bertolino. The family’s attorney told 8 On Your Side the parents believed Brian would find his way home.

**So according to the article, the park was already pretty flooded by the 14th?

 

[Hyway]

Depends on the media source as to how they refer to the remains. Either "partial" "skeletal" or just "remains." Station WESH2 out of Orlando referred to them as:

"The partial remains were found Wednesday in the Carlton Reserve area. According to the FBI, they were found near personal items – including a backpack and a notebook – belonging to Brian Laundrie."

Or you could just go to the horse's mouth and listen for ourselves and not depend on MSM to spin it for us. FBI spokesman said "Human remains" in the statement from the park after finding BL remains. I suppose there could other FBI statements that we can hear or read for ourselves as well. But if you are depeneding on the media to get it right, then good luck.

 

[10ofRods]

I'm not sure LE could legally stop them from searching, even if they wanted to. It was a public park open to the public. LE could have advised them not to do it, but there really was no legal way to stop them once the park reopened. If that were my child possibly or probably out there in that swamp, possibly injured or dead, I'd have been out there searching for her, too, first chance I got. imo

Once the park reopened, no, they couldn't stop the Laundries from searching. I feel like the Laundries wanted to search very badly during that whole time when they were banned from doing it - not sure I could have obeyed LE and might have been arrested for trespassing...

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Leaving the water bottle behind was negligent if it happened like that. It belongs to a murder victim and should be processed as evidence and then offered to her family. It's possible though that they just missed it rather than saw it and thought it unimportant.

Leaving it out in the park means anyone could find it and put it on eBay. Think about how hurtful that would be to Gabby's family. You'd want to collect it just so other people can't get it.

I'm not sure if this is the exact same water bottle as the one being discussed, but they still sell it if it is. Hopefully no one will try to profit from it.



REI Co-op Nalgene Sustain Seek Nature Graphic Wide-Mouth Water Bottle - 32 fl. oz. | REI Co-op

 

[ringbearer]

Makes one wonder why the prisons are crowded with pesky murderers who just will not see this solution to their ( and our ) problem...

Because it's antithetical to dna in most cases.

 

[Trooper]

"Killing A woman is easy"

Really?

apparently.. It's done all the time, Govts could care less, it happens world wide, at a vast and increasing scale. , If it was hard, no one would do it. The sentences dished out for these crimes are pitiful, too... It isn't local, it's global.

One has to conclude that it , if not easy, is not difficult. Would that suit you better??..

 

[Bertha96]

When did Brian Laundrie last speak to family's attorney?


When was Brian reported missing?

Steve Bertolino, the attorney representing Laundrie’s family, told 8 On Your Side’s Mahsa Saeidi that he and the family reported Brian missing the very first night that he went for a hike and didn’t come home.

“I had a conversation with the FBI that night or the morning after – probably both – and conversed with the FBI and conveyed to them that Brian did not come home,” Bertolino said.

….

Bertolino told 8 On Your Side he notified the FBI that Brian hadn’t returned on Sept. 13 or Sept. 14. In the following days, he said, he did not call the FBI to tell them that Laundrie still hadn’t returned. He also said police never called him to ask if Laundrie came home.

“So it was just no communication,” he said. “It wasn’t miscommunication, it was really no communication.”

“Apparently, the North Port PD was under the impression that Brian was home,” Bertolino said Thursday. “And I’ve spoken to representatives from North Port PD and they’ve conveyed that they legitimately thought Brian was still at home.”

Bertolino said he received a call from the FBI on Friday, Sept. 17 about a tip that Brian was in Tampa. He said he told the agent again that Brian never came home from his hike, and law enforcement responded to the family’s North Port home. A missing person report was filed that night.

“As it turns out, the FBI was also under the impression that Brian had come home and it was just the fact that there had been no communication between Monday or Friday from confirmation from either side,” Bertolino said.

The attorney is under no obligation to be truthful when speaking to MSM. Unless he is making a statement to LE or in front of a judge, I take everything with a grain of salt and always ask myself what other purpose any statement made could be serving. IMO.

 

[BeanieBod]

Not sure when he made up his mind, but not spending years in a cage, especially on the taxpayer's dime, was definitely the right decision.

IMHO, MOO, IMO - With your logic, everyone that commits a crime should just off themselves to save taxpayer funds. How harsh!

 

[Luna20]

Suicide is not easy for anyone. The anguish, hopelessness, desperation and despair required to over-ride the primal survival instinct is tremendous. It's not the easy way out. It is the only way out in the mind of a suicidal person. Taking one's own life is something so huge most people cannot even entertain the thought of doing it. jmo

Whats easier though? We don’t know, no one can know but to some suicide was/is the easier choice over going to prison for them.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Yes I know what the dictionary says. I’m talking, as I said, of a legal context. He took an extrajudicial path rather than face legal consequences. JMO

We have no way to know that. He may have killed himself due to overwhelming remorse and regret. We have no idea what was in this young man's mind when he committed that act. imo

 

[simplemind]

When did Brian Laundrie last speak to family's attorney?



“As it turns out, the FBI was also under the impression that Brian had come home and it was just the fact that there had been no communication between Monday or Friday from confirmation from either side,” Bertolino said.

What would give the FBI that impression other than SB telling them or the FBI having evidence he returned?

 

[Cinna]

Should it be determined that Brian's demise was suicide.. that would make him a multiple murderer.. of Gabby, and himself..

I read this and immediately thought of Murder by Death...lol!

Jamesir Bensonmum: She murdered herself in her sleep, sir.
Dick Charleston: You mean suicide?
Jamesir Bensonmum: Oh no, it was murder, all right. Mrs. Twain hated herself.

But in all seriousness, no. I don't think suicide makes him a serial killer.

 

[Trooper]

BL loved it the area.
It's beautiful out there.
I can't see him choosing a hotel over being in nature.
As for the shed, I think he may not have wanted his parents to find him like that.
jmho

There has been 72 threads to this case , each thread with at least 60% comments on the difficulty and the danger of this area, particularly under flood, and incipient flooding. Various large predatory animals, small venomous reptiles, large chomping reptiles, insects to drive a human mad, and so on.

Nature is beautiful , but it isn't comfortable. Thats why we mostly don't live out there in it, we build shelters, we go into caves, we conglomerate together throughout history, because Nature is not our elemental environment. We can look at it, write poetry about it, but it has absolutely no interest in our survival. Nature is completely disinterested in our welfare.