Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #79

[Trooper]

This was a video posted by another member yesterday. It is authentic and the words come straight from Steven Bertolino. It was discussion that started last night on a previous thread. The discussion began because of the Daily Mail article but became more important in light of this interview.

I see that this discussion was missed by some posters, but this does not mean that it came from nowhere and was without a basis. It was sourced, this video together with the Daily Mail article, and every post on it has been noted as speculation, opinion, and conjecture. No one to my knowledge has stated this as fact so I hope this clears any confusion.

It was something worth discussing and fleshing out. Because something is going on. It may not be an immunity deal and many of us hope it is not. But, there's something here we don't know. And, this was the point of it.

[8:04] SB: "This case is not over. I have yet to speak to FBI personnel. I have yet to speak with Northport Police. I have yet to speak to the Assistant US Attorney, Ms. Romine out in Wyoming. Um, there are certain things that need to be done and...and I should say wrapped up (emphasis mine) before we can have further conversations of what, um, may or may not have been done differently."

[8:35] Q: Do you think your clients, the Laundries, will eventually be charged with crimes?
A: I have no reason to believe that.

[9:00] This is the mark of your quote above. You know what several weeks ago would have coincided with? A face to face proffer in Orlando. MOO (This was to @Figuring's quote of:
“Conversations were had several weeks ago with the FBI with respect to certain charges,” he [SB] said. “When questioned and when communications were had between myself and the FBI, I think it was realized that charges were not appropriate.”]

[At 9:35] he admits there were charges against the parents discussed. Q: misdemeanor or felony charges?
Another extended pause
A: "I...I..(stutter again) don't know what level of crime or charge was um, in the mix..."

He proceeds to insist no deal was cut (it's not a crime to lie to the press, and the deal is likely awaiting being signed off on now that they have located Brian, if there is a deal so technically this would not be a lie). He also proceeds to normalize it - that conversations about criminal exposure are oh so normal. Then he proceeds to bash the legal analysts in MSM - again. ( The "There's not a smarter guy in the room than me, Steven Bertolino" mentality again. MOO)
He also reveals at the end that he's been in contact with GPs' family attorney - this kicks the likelihood of a deal up a notch IMO. And, also diminishes the probability of any civil suit. The family will get some answers it seems to me. MOO

As far as the balance of the video he lied again right out of the gate. MOO He said he watched Cassie and Brian grow up when he admitted to Mani Hughes after being pressed that this was actually NOT true. It astonishing. He's truly a piece of work. MOO

Was the prompt to go look for Brian the fact that the park was open? That never seemed plausible. Or, was it because they had an immunity deal? MOO

"John Q Public" as he refers to us, believe your credibility is shot. That's why. MOO

If his clients got a deal then as far as he is concerned the matter of his or their involvement has been put to bed. So, no wonder he's talking so much. This is another thing I couldn't understand - why this guy would not stop talking. Looks like we may now know why.

Oh, and this is all JMO.

He is the quintessential shyster... I was intrigued by Nicole Schmidts instruction to him. 'keep talking garbage.'.... ...

But, his clients must want it that way.. Clients issue the instructions, Lawyers issue the advice.. it's not the other way around..

 

[Hyway]

<modsnip>
We have this myth of the perfect victim - if they aren’t totally angelic and well behaved then they are no longer seen as the victim. But when one person has all the power, the person without power cannot be held responsible in any way for what happens since they have no choice in any of it.
There is nothing she did that that made someone wrap their hands around her throat and squeeze until her life was gone. Not the scratches on his face, not her hitting him, none of it. To say otherwise is the same as saying a rape victim is partially responsible because they were drunk.
Just no. The perpetrator is 100% responsible, always.

Absolutely true. How many lives do you think your message is saving, though?

 

[Cinna]

Has there been any clue as to why Brian drove all the way, clear across the country, to die, when he could have done the same thing, with perhaps less scrutiny, and probably less pressure , in Wyoming?...

Is there something I've missed about the conditions more conducive to suicide in Florida, as opposed to Wyoming?..

It is hard to believe that a weekend camp at Fort De Soto was the candy on the stick that provoked that drive home. Surely that can't be it.

Assuming Brian planned to take his own life in Wyoming (which I personally don't believe)...

You don't think seeing his family one last time was worth the drive? Really?

 

[Jurisprudence]

I am monumentally confused at the moment. I see pages and pages discussing some proffer and some immunity deal for BL's parents but I can't find a single source for any of this.

Where is it coming from? Does anyone have a link? tia

Found Deceased - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #79

 

[Rthornhill]

Has there been any clue as to why Brian drove all the way, clear across the country, to die, when he could have done the same thing, with perhaps less scrutiny, and probably less pressure , in Wyoming?...

Is there something I've missed about the conditions more conducive to suicide in Florida, as opposed to Wyoming?..

It is hard to believe that a weekend camp at Fort De Soto was the candy on the stick that provoked that drive home. Surely that can't be it.

it’s all just speculative, but it would seem he figured he might be able to just ignore and pretend nothing happened and get away with it as long as possible. It always was weird to me why he hiked for three days after Gabby was already dead. Did he think someone would find her and this would be his alibi but it didn’t happen?

You’re absolutely right though. By him returning to Florida all he accomplished was likely causing further pain to Gabby’s family. And also, it vilified his family as well. Whereas if he had ended his life there in Wyoming, the van would have been parked for a while and someone would have noticed. I believe this would have become a news story, but not what it became. It would have also mostly left his family out of the spotlight.

 

[BCSleuth]

[...]

It was something worth discussing and fleshing out. Because something is going on. It may not be an immunity deal and many of us hope it is not. But, there's something here we don't know. And, this was the point of it.

[...]

And I must emphatically and strongly disagree with this. Nothing is going on. I have said since the very beginning that I believe Brian took his life and the parents are victims. Nothing whatsoever has shown this to be untrue. It is amazing to me how people always say "innocent until proven guilty" but are absolutely not applying that in the case of Brian's parents. We have no evidence whatsoever at this time that they did anything wrong whatsoever. So, no, nothing is going on. Nothing.

 

[Jurisprudence]

SB's interview with NBC with regard to immunity.

Reporter

Steve do you think your client's, the Laundrie's, Brian's parents will eventually be charged with crimes?

SB
I have no reason to believe that.

Reporter
There has been some speculation out there, and again I understand you don't like to talk about speculation, that maybe some type of deal was cut. That they promised to co-operative with investigators to get some type of immunity. Any truth to that?

SB
I can tell you, no, there's no truth to that. What I can tell you is that conversations were had several weeks ago with the FBI, with respect to certain charges. When questioned and when communications were had between myself and the FBI, I think it was realised that charges were not appropriate. There was never a threat, there was never a coercion. There was never a deal cut.

With respect, you left out perhaps the most important line.

[At 9:35] Q: misdemeanor or felony charges?
Another extended pause
A: "I...I..(stutter again) don't know what level of crime or charge was um, in the mix..."

MOO, he admits there were charges against the parents discussed.

 

[Bertha96]

This was a video posted by another member yesterday. It is authentic and the words come straight from Steven Bertolino. It was discussion that started last night on a previous thread. The discussion began because of the Daily Mail article but became more important in light of this interview.

I see that this discussion was missed by some posters, but this does not mean that it came from nowhere and was without a basis. It was sourced, this video together with the Daily Mail article, and every post on it has been noted as speculation, opinion, and conjecture. No one to my knowledge has stated this as fact so I hope this clears any confusion.

It was something worth discussing and fleshing out. Because something is going on. It may not be an immunity deal and many of us hope it is not. But, there's something here we don't know. And, this was the point of it.

[8:04] SB: "This case is not over. I have yet to speak to FBI personnel. I have yet to speak with Northport Police. I have yet to speak to the Assistant US Attorney, Ms. Romine out in Wyoming. Um, there are certain things that need to be done and...and I should say wrapped up (emphasis mine) before we can have further conversations of what, um, may or may not have been done differently."

[8:35] Q: Do you think your clients, the Laundries, will eventually be charged with crimes?
A: I have no reason to believe that.

[9:00] This is the mark of your quote above. You know what several weeks ago would have coincided with? A face to face proffer in Orlando. MOO (This was to @Figuring's quote of:
“Conversations were had several weeks ago with the FBI with respect to certain charges,” he [SB] said. “When questioned and when communications were had between myself and the FBI, I think it was realized that charges were not appropriate.”]

[At 9:35] he admits there were charges against the parents discussed. Q: misdemeanor or felony charges?
Another extended pause
A: "I...I..(stutter again) don't know what level of crime or charge was um, in the mix..."

He proceeds to insist no deal was cut (it's not a crime to lie to the press, and the deal is likely awaiting being signed off on now that they have located Brian, if there is a deal so technically this would not be a lie). He also proceeds to normalize it - that conversations about criminal exposure are oh so normal. Then he proceeds to bash the legal analysts in MSM - again. ( The "There's not a smarter guy in the room than me, Steven Bertolino" mentality again. MOO)
He also reveals at the end that he's been in contact with GPs' family attorney - this kicks the likelihood of a deal up a notch IMO. And, also diminishes the probability of any civil suit. The family will get some answers it seems to me. MOO

As far as the balance of the video he lied again right out of the gate. MOO He said he watched Cassie and Brian grow up when he admitted to Mani Hughes after being pressed that this was actually NOT true. It astonishing. He's truly a piece of work. MOO

Was the prompt to go look for Brian the fact that the park was open? That never seemed plausible. Or, was it because they had an immunity deal? MOO

"John Q Public" as he refers to us, believe your credibility is shot. That's why. MOO

If his clients got a deal then as far as he is concerned the matter of his or their involvement has been put to bed. So, no wonder he's talking so much. This is another thing I couldn't understand - why this guy would not stop talking. Looks like we may now know why.

Oh, and this is all JMO.

I wish I could like this a million times. Per usual, you are right on the money.

Something is going on behind the scenes.

He could be saying there isn't an agreement/deal just because it hasn't been signed. Which technically is true up until all the T's are crossed, I's dotted and the deal/agreement is finally signed. It's surprising to me, that even though he is an attorney, how often he stumbles over the statements he obviously finds troublesome. Then again, he isn't necessarily a trial attorney. It's almost like a child who isn't telling the truth and hems and haws when asked specific details.
IMO.

 

[Cinna]

Being dead is a direct consequence of the choice to kill himself.

Being dead not a direct consequence of this case.

Being dead is not a legal consequence.

He made a choice to kill himself & the consequence of that is he avoided legal consequences.

JMO

If Gabby wasn't dead, Brian wouldn't be dead. Period. What happened in Wyoming directly led to Brian's death.

 

[CharlestonGal]

This was a video posted by another member yesterday. It is authentic and the words come straight from Steven Bertolino. It was discussion that started last night on a previous thread. The discussion began because of the Daily Mail article but became more important in light of this interview.

I see that this discussion was missed by some posters, but this does not mean that it came from nowhere and was without a basis. It was sourced, this video together with the Daily Mail article, and every post on it has been noted as speculation, opinion, and conjecture. No one to my knowledge has stated this as fact so I hope this clears any confusion.

It was something worth discussing and fleshing out. Because something is going on. It may not be an immunity deal and many of us hope it is not. But, there's something here we don't know. And, this was the point of it.

[8:04] SB: "This case is not over. I have yet to speak to FBI personnel. I have yet to speak with Northport Police. I have yet to speak to the Assistant US Attorney, Ms. Romine out in Wyoming. Um, there are certain things that need to be done and...and I should say wrapped up (emphasis mine) before we can have further conversations of what, um, may or may not have been done differently."

[8:35] Q: Do you think your clients, the Laundries, will eventually be charged with crimes?
A: I have no reason to believe that.

[9:00] This is the mark of your quote above. You know what several weeks ago would have coincided with? A face to face proffer in Orlando. MOO (This was to @Figuring's quote of:
“Conversations were had several weeks ago with the FBI with respect to certain charges,” he [SB] said. “When questioned and when communications were had between myself and the FBI, I think it was realized that charges were not appropriate.”]

[At 9:35] he admits there were charges against the parents discussed. Q: misdemeanor or felony charges?
Another extended pause
A: "I...I..(stutter again) don't know what level of crime or charge was um, in the mix..."

He proceeds to insist no deal was cut (it's not a crime to lie to the press, and the deal is likely awaiting being signed off on now that they have located Brian, if there is a deal so technically this would not be a lie). He also proceeds to normalize it - that conversations about criminal exposure are oh so normal. Then he proceeds to bash the legal analysts in MSM - again. ( The "There's not a smarter guy in the room than me, Steven Bertolino" mentality again. MOO)
He also reveals at the end that he's been in contact with GPs' family attorney - this kicks the likelihood of a deal up a notch IMO. And, also diminishes the probability of any civil suit. The family will get some answers it seems to me. MOO

As far as the balance of the video he lied again right out of the gate. MOO He said he watched Cassie and Brian grow up when he admitted to Mani Hughes after being pressed that this was actually NOT true. It astonishing. He's truly a piece of work. MOO

Was the prompt to go look for Brian the fact that the park was open? That never seemed plausible. Or, was it because they had an immunity deal? MOO

"John Q Public" as he refers to us, believe your credibility is shot. That's why. MOO

If his clients got a deal then as far as he is concerned the matter of his or their involvement has been put to bed. So, no wonder he's talking so much. This is another thing I couldn't understand - why this guy would not stop talking. Looks like we may now know why.

Oh, and this is all JMO.

If you scroll back up, you will see this was addressed by the verified attorney on the thread, @Alethea. She explains it clearly and concisely. jmo

 

[cass523]

Nancy Grace: Details surrounding Brian Laundrie's remains are 'all very vague in my mind'

Nancy Grace: Details surrounding Brian Laundrie's remains are 'all very vague in my mind'

 

[Jurisprudence]

If you scroll back up, you will see this was addressed by the verified attorney on the thread, @Alethea. She explains it clearly and concisely. jmo

I don't need the help. (I thought you knew this) But, thank you, lol. I do appreciate it.

 

[Hyway]

If Gabby wasn't dead, Brian wouldn't be dead. Period. What happened in Wyoming directly led to Brian's death.

There is no consequence. He has escaped justice.

 

[cocomod]

Has there been any clue as to why Brian drove all the way, clear across the country, to die, when he could have done the same thing, with perhaps less scrutiny, and probably less pressure , in Wyoming?...

Perhaps to say goodbye to his parents? Perhaps he thought he would get away with it until he didn’t. Perhaps he came home to get rid of evidence before she was reported missing.

 

[mlhenn]

Found Deceased - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #79

There’s also a snippet here where SB briefly addresses it

Public attention turns to Laundrie's parents after his remains found

"There was no deal," Bertolino said. "There were certainly conversations, as one would expect happens in every criminal case. You always have conversations with the prosecutors ... but no deal was cut. The Laundries have been cooperating with law enforcement, both locally and federally, since day one with respect to Brian."

 

[jjonez]

BBM

IMO

Almost everything in poor Gabby's case has been sketchy.

And yes, I thought from the start that NP police might've been in over their heads but they didn't want any take-overs.

That didn't have to happen.

I've seen many cases where the authorities in small jurisdictions recognized they didn't have the experience, skill, or tools to handle certain cases, so they called in the state. (Or FBI.)

I thought that would happen.

But here we are.

All MOO

The words in your post just rekindled thoughts that I had early on in this case

GP was reported missing in NY. NY lit a fire under NPPD to investigate. The van was seized. IIRC, the FBI was involved on 9/11 or 9/12 for processing the van and possibly even seizing the van. My thought at the time was why? It would be totally understandable that NPPD might not have the experience/skills/tools/whatever resources to deal with this. But wouldn’t they call on FL state LE first? The only possible reason I could think of at that time was that the missing persons case was filed in one state, NY, and being investigated in another, FL (I don’t think that Wyoming was actively investigating at that point, only that they had been ‘notified’ by NS). Is that a thing? It seemed strange that NPPD was not initially assisted by state police but rather the FBI. I wondered at that time if the FBI already had something to investigate that tied into GP’s missing persons case.

all moo.

 

[Trooper]

it’s all just speculative, but it would seem he figured he might be able to just ignore and pretend nothing happened and get away with it as long as possible. It always was weird to me why he hiked for three days after Gabby was already dead. Did he think someone would find her and this would be his alibi but it didn’t happen?

You’re absolutely right though. By him returning to Florida all he accomplished was likely causing further pain to Gabby’s family. And also, it vilified his family as well. Whereas if he had ended his life there in Wyoming, the van would have been parked for a while and someone would have noticed. I believe this would have become a news story, but not what it became. It would have also mostly left his family out of the spotlight.

I had thought , because of the consequences of him coming back to Florida, that it turned out so bad, so appalling, that he wanted it that way, a sort of revenge, payback, .. even , it crossed my mind, that he was going to take the whole family out as well. Just because. In for a penny, in for a pound, you might as well be hung for a sheep instead of just a lamb, etc.. all this kind of stuff...

That he had unfinished business of a wipeout nature.. It isn't improbable.

That hiking for three days. Then coming back to the scene of the crime.. I just don't know what that could signify... He had the entire USA at his disposal. Coast to coast, and just a hop away to the Canadian tundra... ... His mind must have been like a beehive , one difficulty followed by a solution that brings up another difficulty..

 

[Hyway]

How can North Port PD deny that’s an item related to the BL case? Clearly, it’s the exact same water bottle as shown in the picture posted by GP.
I believe those are stickers on it. If not, and you can purchase that water bottle with those graphics on it, then that is highly coincidental.

Do you think that lack of proper control of evidence will have a detrimental affect on the State's ability to prosecute the case?

 

[Recidivist]

There is no consequence. He has escaped justice.

Not necessarily. A lot of religious beliefs suggest suicide as the ultimate sin, one which cannot be forgiven. Perhaps he escaped earthly justice, but it might not end here.

 

[Allabouttrial]

With respect, you left out perhaps the most important line.

[At 9:35] Q: misdemeanor or felony charges?
Another extended pause
A: "I...I..(stutter again) don't know what level of crime or charge was um, in the mix..."

MOO, he admits there were charges against the parents discussed.

I'm confused about the point you're trying to make? I can't see anything in the extra part you added that changes or adds to anything he said in my quote.

 

[Trooper]

it’s all just speculative, but it would seem he figured he might be able to just ignore and pretend nothing happened and get away with it as long as possible. It always was weird to me why he hiked for three days after Gabby was already dead. Did he think someone would find her and this would be his alibi but it didn’t happen?

You’re absolutely right though. By him returning to Florida all he accomplished was likely causing further pain to Gabby’s family. And also, it vilified his family as well. Whereas if he had ended his life there in Wyoming, the van would have been parked for a while and someone would have noticed. I believe this would have become a news story, but not what it became. It would have also mostly left his family out of the spotlight.

and.. as you say, he came back after that little hike, .. what for ?? why didn't he bury her body, at least to gain some time?.. if your camping , you have a shovel, even a small one. .. what had he left behind, that he had to come back for since it was not to bury Gabby's body?...