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The AT runs right through it too…
I'd be looking at Laundries business address in NY
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The AT runs right through it too…
I understand what you are saying. But say there are 2 sightings in NC 100 miles apart at the same time or close to it. Obviously both can't be BL. Maybe neither is BL but both can't be. But LE doesn't want to say BL can't be at Point A or at Point B in NC. Because he could be either place or even both places but just not both places at close to the same time.
JMO
I thought this was how it worked but I'm really glad to have the confirmation. That former FBI agent's accusation was a bit inflamatory, no?This is why I don't think the lawyer is helping BL.
18 USC 3 makes it a felony to help someone avoid capture and prosecution. The penalty is half the penalty of the offender - up to 15 years if the underlying crime is life in prison.
I know a lot of lawyers. I participate in a lot of bar association groups and sections, I'm on a few criminal defense specific email listservs. I know lawyers ranging from real slimey ones I wouldn't trust to help me with a parking ticket down to the most principled and honest people I've met.
I really can't imagine anyone risking their own career to commit a crime for a client. Most of the crimes that lawyers get in trouble for involve misappropriating money from client trust accounts (i.e. stealing from your client to benefit yourself). Most lawyers are thinking about themselves. They are always looking for the next client, the next case. Most are not going to risk their own careers for any client - even big ones. It's just not worth it for purely selfish reasons.
18 U.S. Code § 3 - Accessory after the fact
Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.
Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.
I have one idea. They periodically wire money to her account so she shared all the information. I remember one of the parents saying they gave her money before the trip. Easily way is wires.
See, this is the long game I think they are playing. Let him lie low and protected in his little safe house and let the media frenzy die down. Keep insisting that the Reserve was where he was - and that they think he may have been distraught enough to kill himself. Then, after a long time of searching with no results, LE will just give up and move on thinking he was most likely dead. No comment means, to me, he will not outright lie that BL is suicidal, but he certainly wants us to believe he is.
This is why I don't think the lawyer is helping BL.
18 USC 3 makes it a felony to help someone avoid capture and prosecution. The penalty is half the penalty of the offender - up to 15 years if the underlying crime is life in prison.
I know a lot of lawyers. I participate in a lot of bar association groups and sections, I'm on a few criminal defense specific email listservs. I know lawyers ranging from real slimey ones I wouldn't trust to help me with a parking ticket down to the most principled and honest people I've met.
I really can't imagine anyone risking their own career to commit a crime for a client. Most of the crimes that lawyers get in trouble for involve misappropriating money from client trust accounts (i.e. stealing from your client to benefit yourself). Most lawyers are thinking about themselves. They are always looking for the next client, the next case. Most are not going to risk their own careers for any client - even big ones. It's just not worth it for purely selfish reasons.
18 U.S. Code § 3 - Accessory after the fact
Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.
Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.
This is why I don't think the lawyer is helping BL.
18 USC 3 makes it a felony to help someone avoid capture and prosecution. The penalty is half the penalty of the offender - up to 15 years if the underlying crime is life in prison.
I know a lot of lawyers. I participate in a lot of bar association groups and sections, I'm on a few criminal defense specific email listservs. I know lawyers ranging from real slimey ones I wouldn't trust to help me with a parking ticket down to the most principled and honest people I've met.
I really can't imagine anyone risking their own career to commit a crime for a client. Most of the crimes that lawyers get in trouble for involve misappropriating money from client trust accounts (i.e. stealing from your client to benefit yourself). Most lawyers are thinking about themselves. They are always looking for the next client, the next case. Most are not going to risk their own careers for any client - even big ones. It's just not worth it for purely selfish reasons.
18 U.S. Code § 3 - Accessory after the fact
Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.
Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.
Oh boy....troubles a brewingA group of women pulled up to the #Laundrie home a few minutes ago and hammered this sign into the lawn, facing front door. #GabbyPetito #BrianLaundrie #wheresbrian
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When BL fled, it was before he was indicted for credit card fraud. So, technically, assisting him in relocating was not an illegal activity. His lawyer, his parents, or anyone solicited by them would not have done anything illegal by setting him up in a safe house on or around 9/11-9/13 since he was not wanted for anything until 9/14. I do believe that the location cannot be known by his parents, since at this point they would be lying to the FBI if they deny knowing where he is located. So I think the parents do not know his actual physical location. I don’t know about the lawyer? @Alethea or anyone else? Is the lawyer breaking the law, or legal ethics if he knows BL’s location and hides that from the FBI?
As far as I know, there is no attorney of record listed on the indictment for the fraud case, for BL. The prosecutor is named. Has that changed? Dunno. SB is not his attorney for the Federal Fraud case. JMORight. I don't think BL is a big enough deal to risk throwing away a career. It's not like O.J Simpson or something.
Also, AFAIK there is no charge or accusation of murder against BL at this point? So aiding and abetting someone who has been charged with bank fraud essentially? (not to over simplify)
Guess I am hoping for something novel....
I think i would appreciate NC LE coming out to "cool our jets".. you know, like saying , "yes we follow up, and all leads thus far have been fruitless".... It might just ease some troubled minds.
Right. I don't think BL is a big enough deal to risk throwing away a career. It's not like O.J Simpson or something.
Also, AFAIK there is no charge or accusation of murder against BL at this point? So aiding and abetting someone who has been charged with bank fraud essentially? (not to over simplify)
As far as I know, there is no attorney of record listed on the indictment for the fraud case, for BL. The prosecutor is named. Has that changed? Dunno. SB is not his attorney for the Federal Fraud case. JMO
Can we pin this to the threadI don't understand why this is causing so much confusion. The indictment lists the bank account and debit card numbers. The Petito family knows Gabby's bank account and debit card numbers. The family's lawyer stated these are Gabby's bank accounts and Gabby's debit card.
If one bank card is listed and the attorney for the Petito family states that Brian used Gabby's bank card, why would we assume there is a second unauthorized use that just wasn't charged (for using Gabby's card) and this one is really someone else's?
FACT: "BRIAN CHRISTOPHER LAUNDRIE, knowingly and with intent to defraud, used one or more unauthorized access devices, namely a Capital One Bank debit card ending in 8774 and a personal identification number for Capital One Bank accounts ending in 0525 and 8665, and by such conduct obtained things for value aggregating to $1,000 or more during that period, which affected interestate commerce."
SOURCE: United States v. Brian Christopher Laundrie, No. 21 CR 113-S (D. Wyoming) (September 22, 2021)
FACT: "He used her credit card to get home."
SOURCE: Richard Stafford, Petito family attorney, available at: Brian Laundrie stole, used Gabby Petito's credit card and 'ran from' police: family attorney
Treating these two pieces of information as fact, I do not see how any other conclusion can be drawn than that the account numbers listed in the indictment belong to Gabby.
Just because the FBI did not phrase their statement about the indictment in a way that a poster would prefer does not suddenly make an indictment that lists specific account numbers an opinion.
BE says it was the neighbors. Interesting.A group of women pulled up to the #Laundrie home a few minutes ago and hammered this sign into the lawn, facing front door. #GabbyPetito #BrianLaundrie #wheresbrian
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Ah! But he's been a family friend for over 20 years and this is murder. Time to call favors in? My current viewpoint is: follow the grins and you will find Brian. This truly somber occasion is unworthy of smorefests and grins.This is why I don't think the lawyer is helping BL.
18 USC 3 makes it a felony to help someone avoid capture and prosecution. The penalty is half the penalty of the offender - up to 15 years if the underlying crime is life in prison.
I know a lot of lawyers. I participate in a lot of bar association groups and sections, I'm on a few criminal defense specific email listservs. I know lawyers ranging from real slimey ones I wouldn't trust to help me with a parking ticket down to the most principled and honest people I've met.
I really can't imagine anyone risking their own career to commit a crime for a client. Most of the crimes that lawyers get in trouble for involve misappropriating money from client trust accounts (i.e. stealing from your client to benefit yourself). Most lawyers are thinking about themselves. They are always looking for the next client, the next case. Most are not going to risk their own careers for any client - even big ones. It's just not worth it for purely selfish reasons.
18 U.S. Code § 3 - Accessory after the fact
Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.
Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.
Do you have thoughts, insight, advice on this? I ask, because so much has been restricted in this case by the FBI, it would be helpful to know HOW Gabby's parents know the last four digits of her debit card number. There might be a very good reason, but it hasn't been fleshed out here, that I am aware of.