04/22/2013 - waiting for rebuttal to continue

[Aliz488]

Juan should be able to bring in the shelve demonstration too!!!!

 

[dani]

This is why JSS (I hope and pray) will not allow this surrebuttal. It does not make sense to me that this could be an issue on appeal because .... oh carp ..... I just don't know what to think anymore.

I agree with one poster here that the DT is trying to exhaust this jury and and attempting to get a mistrial. Ooooo big surprise!!

I, myself, am exhausted and almost totally intellectually depleted. I can hardly wrap my brain around all of the shenanigans that have been going on in the past ... and currently. I'm almost ready to check out. I have been so invested in this trial and achieving justice for Travis, but I can barely keep up. I think about the family and then I think ... well, if they can stay strong ... maybe I should too ... but it really is affecting my life. My daily life is falling apart. I don't answer the phone ... the door .... I get annoyed if anyone talks to me while I'm listening to something on HLN or reading Websleuths. I am a hot mess!!

I think I wanna quit .... but I have an addictive personality. Do I have any support out there? HEEEELLLLLPPP !!

You've pretty much given a "Class Action" description of most of us here. Hang in there. We're with ya, Sydni! :thewave::thewave::thewave::thewave::thewave:

 

[BritsKate]

This is why JSS (I hope and pray) will not allow this surrebuttal. It does not make sense to me that this could be an issue on appeal because .... oh carp ..... I just don't know what to think anymore.

I agree with one poster here that the DT is trying to exhaust this jury and and attempting to get a mistrial. Ooooo big surprise!!

I, myself, am exhausted and almost totally intellectually depleted. I can hardly wrap my brain around all of the shenanigans that have been going on in the past ... and currently. I'm almost ready to check out. I have been so invested in this trial and achieving justice for Travis, but I can barely keep up. I think about the family and then I think ... well, if they can stay strong ... maybe I should too ... but it really is affecting my life. My daily life is falling apart. I don't answer the phone ... the door .... I get annoyed if anyone talks to me while I'm listening to something on HLN or reading Websleuths. I am a hot mess!!

I think I wanna quit .... but I have an addictive personality. Do I have any support out there? HEEEELLLLLPPP !!

Um. If you're seeking support to quit, I think you might be in the wrong place. :giggle:

But I am not addicted. I'm in denial. (I'm sure its psychologically more acceptable somehow.)

 

[Sleuth5]

Oh.. i see.. Alice wasnt professional enough so now they call Robert??? i say no way! They wanted Alice, they got Alice!

Of course they asked her. They thought she'd know.

 

[Mellinyce]

I just didn't think that this late in the trial they could do this.

 

[nightwatch]

Bingo.

http://www.alycelaviolette.com/Publications-By-Alyce-LaViolette.htm

FOR OUR CHILDREN by Jane Shatz and Alyce LaViolette
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFENDERS (editors Bob Geffner and Alan Rosenbaum) chapter "Batterers' Intervention: A View From the Trenches" by Alyce LaViolette

this was so interesting i bumped it up. seems they run in packs :moo:

 

[BeachGirlFromPA]

Surrebuttal really doesn't worry me. I think the truth has been presented and I doubt the DT could do anything that will affect that. I really don't like the lesser charges....too much wiggle room there to suit me.
It's been such an unbelievable day here. My last client actually asked me to call her when I got home to let her know I got here safely. One client was rushed to the ER in heart block, another fell down a flight of stairs. Before that, one of my female goats busted her way to the 'segregated' section...found herself a boyfriend...Oh my lol Now I can be on babygoat watch..... It's been one of those days. And then I hear about the latest carp from the DT. I wish I was joking about how it feels in the pit of my stomach. Makes me wish I drank. Even a little Would a margarita make it better? LOL

 

[Arabian Girl]

this was so interesting i bumped it up. seems they run in packs :moo:

Oh I hope JM goes after this!!!

btw, HLN just had Holly Hughes saying this new witness is there specifically to rebut the BPD. Without interviewing Jodi AND running his own tests, I don't know how he does this.

 

[Mellinyce]

The gas cans prove premed. Lets say her car got 30mpg (2008 ford focus claims 35). With 15 gallons in the trunk that gives her 450 miles. From Mesa to Mesquite, NV where she filled up is 391miles. Two gas cans would only get her a little over 300 miles away from Mesa.

She asked Darryl at least twice to borrow his two cans
She picked them up then bought an additional can

But then she lies about it. After regaling the courtroom about how she had lied in the past and lied about only the murder but would never lie in the courtroom, she testified to only two gas cans. Testified she returned the third one. Testified to that on direct and again on redirect then (worst of all for her) lied to the juror who asked about this via jury questions. Juan Martinez then revealed she filled up three cans in Utah and never returned the third can as she claimed. He will nail this down in his rebuttal with the Walmart and Tesoro witnesses.

Whenever I return something at Walmart, they always make me sign the receipt before they give me my cash back, whether I paid in cash or credit originally, they make me sign the receipt and the person giving me the cash signs it as well. If this is not done then the person will come out short at the count of monies at the end of their shift.

 

[Dmacky]

Yes, this is when she was trying to tell the judge that she could remember how she "felt," although she couldn't remember anything else in that moment. Seriously.

:lol: at those pictures of Jodi hiding in in your signature DeAnna !!!

♪ ♫ Oh Christmas Tree, oh Christmas Tree...I'm hiding in your branches ♫


:couch:

 

[Mrs G Norris]

this was so interesting i bumped it up. seems they run in packs :moo:

Jumping off this ..

Time Out Exercise - Anger Paradigm. By Alyce LaViolette

• Does your stomach churn or get in a knot, do your shoulders tighten, does your heart beat faster, do you feel hot, does your face burn, does your jaw clench?
• When you recognize your signal (fuse), you can leave the situation physically and/or mentally.
• If the energy is big, leave and do a non-aggressive physical cool down (e.g. active walking, jogging, lifting weights, isometrics, dancing, shooting baskets, riding a bike).
• As you cool down physically, begin a cognitive cool down. Practice thinking differently. Practice positive self talk. You might say, "I don't want to hurt or scare anybody. I want to solve a problem." Or "I want to cool off." I don't want to feel bad about when I do - I don't want to feel guilty. I want to handle things better."
• Go back to your perception (how you see it) and look at alternate ways of seeing the situation. This is a good time to empathize and not to blame.
• Work on problem solving - doesn't have to mean confrontation. Remember, anything you want to get good at, you have to work on improving. Practice, practice and practice. You will develop a new way of thinking.
• Go back to person (if you still feel you need to) and work on solution.

http://www.alycelaviolette.com/Time-Out-Exercise-Anger-Paradigm.htm

For some reason when I read through this I hear Tantric Bells and Whalesong...

 

[LinasK]

Sorry about mentioning that NAME!!!! I didn't know that PLEASE FORGIVE MY TRUE IGNORANCE ABOUT SUCH RULE!!!

She's kidding, there is no such rule here. Feel free to mention the aquitted murderess Casey Anthony's name here.

 

[kaydono]

Lol me too sitting on my hands so I won't type what I'd like to type.

Good? Good behavior? What is that? Clarify please... I just specialize in misbehaving. Life is more fun that way, never a dull moment on WS. :Banane48

 

[Softail]

Surrebuttal really doesn't worry me. I think the truth has been presented and I doubt the DT could do anything that will affect that. I really don't like the lesser charges....too much wiggle room there to suit me.
It's been such an unbelievable day here. My last client actually asked me to call her when I got home to let her know I got here safely. One client was rushed to the ER in heart block, another fell down a flight of stairs. Before that, one of my female goats busted her way to the 'segregated' section...found herself a boyfriend...Oh my lol Now I can be on babygoat watch..... It's been one of those days. And then I hear about the latest carp from the DT. I wish I was joking about how it feels in the pit of my stomach. Makes me wish I drank. Even a little Would a margarita make it better? LOL

Sorry you had a bad day.

BBM - Well, there is something ya don't hear everyday! :giggle:

 

[Arabian Girl]

Well, now that we KNOW the connection between ALV and the newbie, I feel 100% better. The jury didn't like her and that's going to taint them like the DT thinks they're stupid.

Could turn out to be a slam dunker for JM in the end!!!

 

[camcneishg]

can't wait for tomorrow!! see you guys then...

 

[Wendy101]

OT: I wonder that too. I honestly think there was one dumba$$ juror (maybe the foremen - PE teacher?) who was so convincing in saying that there is no proof. Anything that we heard from the jurors was that "they couldn't prove what happened" ... "how did Caylee die" .... "was it an accident" ... "was it intentional" ... there was no proof .. so we had to acquit her. Dumba$$ jury. It is no wonder we haven't head from any of them. I would be ashamed of myself if I rendered that verdict. So very ashamed. Just makes me want to throw up every time I think about it.

Sorry peeps. I'm venting today. I'm so exhausted by this trial (JA/TA) that I am just hating the justice system right now. All of the false info and innuendos submitted by defense attorneys ... it just doesn't seem right and I am so disappointed with it all ... starting with OJ Simpson - another killer that was acquitted by another dumba$$ jury. What is going on?

Don't forget the state NOT charging George or Cindy for lying on the stand.. :banghead: MANY people failed Caylee, not just that jury.. So many thing were not allowed in that trial either,, like the fight with Cindy... Ec..et... It should be you lie.. On the stand you are in jail.

Matt in this case should be charged already... Is he?
Which on said he would lie on the stand? Good get him to the stand, let him lie, then charge him!! :banghead:
What about the ex with his penis photo! We are general public, and WE can SEE that is not Travis penis!! LET the jury see that! lay it all out on the table!

 

[Schuby]

Jumping off this ..

Time Out Exercise - Anger Paradigm. By Alyce LaViolette

• Does your stomach churn or get in a knot, do your shoulders tighten, does your heart beat faster, do you feel hot, does your face burn, does your jaw clench?
• When you recognize your signal (fuse), you can leave the situation physically and/or mentally.
• If the energy is big, leave and do a non-aggressive physical cool down (e.g. active walking, jogging, lifting weights, isometrics, dancing, shooting baskets, riding a bike).
• As you cool down physically, begin a cognitive cool down. Practice thinking differently. Practice positive self talk. You might say, "I don't want to hurt or scare anybody. I want to solve a problem." Or "I want to cool off." I don't want to feel bad about when I do - I don't want to feel guilty. I want to handle things better."
• Go back to your perception (how you see it) and look at alternate ways of seeing the situation. This is a good time to empathize and not to blame.
• Work on problem solving - doesn't have to mean confrontation. Remember, anything you want to get good at, you have to work on improving. Practice, practice and practice. You will develop a new way of thinking.
• Go back to person (if you still feel you need to) and work on solution.

http://www.alycelaviolette.com/Time-Out-Exercise-Anger-Paradigm.htm

For some reason when I read through this I hear Tantric Bells and Whalesong...

LOL!! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[Nezumi]

the DT are wanting a heat of the moment,crime of passion to be given in jury instructions. which means if they dont find premeditated first degree they have the choice of find her guilty of heat of the moment crime of passion

Is there anything else we can get for Miss Arial in addition to her multi million dollar defense team? A personal masseuse? A maid to tidy up the cell? Some herbal tea and a fluffy back pillow for those exhausting trial days? Honestly, the bending over that our judicial system does for an admitted killer just burns me up.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I guess Jodi was just ahead of the times when she was growing pot. I wonder if Sheriff Joe will comply with orders to allow criminals to smoke pot. Or could they request brownies if AZ passed laws to allow it.


Oregon Senate passes bill to allow medical marijuana for PTSD treatment.The Senate passed a bill today that would allow people with post-traumatic stress disorder to get medical marijuana cards, but not all lawmakers were sold on the idea.

Senate Bill 281, which passed on a 19-11 vote, is now headed to the House.