10/28/11 Private Investigator Returns, Baby Lisas Family Leaves

[imamaze]

We all have differing opinions, do it respectfully, if you don't like a post either pass it on by or alert and the Mods are happy to check into it.

Ima

 

[Donjeta]

I think the point is they should be protecting the boys from the media cameras and splashing their pictures all over the national TV . MOO

I'm not sure how they would be able to do that if they have media trucks camping on their front door. Never let the children out without bags on their heads?

 

[Minette]

I'm not sure how they would be able to do that if they have media trucks camping on their front door. Never let the children out without bags on their heads?

Exactly. My theory is that BS was helping move the parents & the two boys to a different location where the boys may be a little more insulated from the media.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Ya got me there Dr. F. Bill did say he was there for Lisa, and even I have to question how that translates into whisking off the parents? Maybe he'll explain it to me on Monday morning

Someone mentioned earlier that perhaps the family left to save them from beings served a subpeona (grand jury or something to do with the kids). It made me pause for a second...

Mel

I remember when the grand jury served the subpoenas on Drew Petersons kids.

 

[mentalsolstice]

If the woman who knocked on the door, was a mother who had lost her children, in the same horrific way that I seemed to be experiencing my loss, then I would let her come in and try and help me the best she could. The parents were not alone and vulnerable, there were plenty of family members and even TV cameras on the home. So I do not see what their concerns were. I would think they would want the connection with someone who could truly understand their current situation. imoo

Certainly yours would be a reasonable reaction. However, in this case the parents mental state may preclude them from interacting with strangers, even those offering them assistance. It has already been stated that DB was taking medication for anxiety before Lisa went missing (http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/national_world&id=8395857), so I can only imagine how debilitated she may be feeling now. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I'm not sure how they would be able to do that if they have media trucks camping on their front door. Never let the children out without bags on their heads?

Dress them in Ninja suits with hoods? Oh wait that was Drew. LOL LOL

 

[LaLaw2000]

Bill Stanton has been a bodyguard for many years. It makes sense to me that he would occupy the family in light of the media storm.

Stanton left the police department, opened a private investigation agency and became a personal bodyguard. At the same time, Stanton became a bouncer at a trendy nightclub.

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17422420/ns/dateline_nbc-wild_bill_watching_your_back/t/who-wild-bill/

Mel

Well, I did actually know that. He really is into trendy clubs and likes rubbing elbows with celebs. I think he is flamboyant, and did read a short bio of him. That's just my impression of him.

I just find it curious that his wealthy benefactor supposedly hired him to find Baby Lisa and yet he seems to kowtow to the family and JT. Sorry, but I just personally do not like him. He just rubs me the wrong way.

Evidently BS is on the 'protect' the family team now. I do wish he were more on the 'Working to find Baby Lisa' team.

Just my thoughts. (Got to go run an errand now)

 

[CharlestonGal]

I'm not sure how they would be able to do that if they have media trucks camping on their front door. Never let the children out without bags on their heads?

I really wish the parents would let some experts (not defense attornies) help them. Managing the media is so critical when cases go viral like this. I know it certainly is the parents' prerogative to handle this situation as they see fit, but there is such a better way to go about managing the media. The media is not going to just go away at this point no matter how much the parents may wish it. The parents need to take the reins and control the media or hire someone who can, if nothing else for the surviving children who are in an absolutely horrible situation.

I wish the parents had better advisors, or would go looking for some.

 

[natsound]

This is exactly the kind of post that makes me sympathize strongly with the family. Are you seriously picking apart how DB behaved as the boys walked in home having come home from school? Seriously? You're making a judgement on her, saying she can't be bothered, saying she doesn't pay attention to her boys, based on that one screenshot. That's unbelievable.

I must be a crap mom because my 7yo walks a few feet ahead of me on a regular basis. She's not always clung to my side.

I don't know if people should sympathize strongly with the family just because of what someone posted. There are various inconsistencies in their stories, they won't talk separately with police, they won't sit down with their boys to find out what they might have heard that night because it might "upset" them (even though it could mean life or death for the baby), and they're certainly not showing any outward signs of searching. I don't care what anyone posts, I'll hold my sympathy for parents who do the right thing for their missing child.

 

[mentalsolstice]

I think the point is they should be protecting the boys from the media cameras and splashing their pictures all over the national TV . MOO

Certainly, the boys need to be protected. However, I think in this case D&J were simply walking their boys up to their home after they had returned from school. While D&J should not ever purposefully expose their children, I think the media should respect the boys privacy while they try to have a semblance of a normal life.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Well, I did actually know that. He really is into trendy clubs and likes rubbing elbows with celebs. I think he is flamboyant, and did read a short bio of him. That's just my impression of him.

I just find it curious that his wealthy benefactor supposedly hired him to find Baby Lisa and yet he seems to kowtow to the family and JT. Sorry, but I just personally do not like him. He just rubs me the wrong way.

Evidently BS is on the 'protect' the family team now. I do wish he were more on the 'Working to find Baby Lisa' team.

Just my thoughts. (Got to go run an errand now)

BBM. That was my understanding as well, but I haven't seen him actually do anything along the lines of finding Lisa. It does look like he's just on bodyguard detail now. I don't care much for him either and he certainly wouldn't be on my team or in my house. To each their own I guess.

 

[natsound]

(Not quoted to save space) Nancy A and Smooth Operator made a couple posts upstream that state exactly what I've been trying to get across myself. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when opinion and facts get used interchangably, nothing is gained for anyone, but confusion.
What I am left with, in a nutshell, is every DB or JI bashing post that says they killed their child, is one less person that would take a second look if Baby Lisa was within eyesight. Why? Because some already have her dead and rotting away, so it couldn't possibly been her. All I care about is Lisa???? Really? If so, why proclaim her dead and looking for a live Lisa a waste of time and energy. If you don't want to give the parents the benefit of the doubt, fine, but at least give Lisa the benefit of the doubt and realize she may very well be alive and needing our help. Just my $.02 of course.

A cadaver dog hit in the house. A child is missing without a trace. PD don't feel the parents are cooperating.

 

[EllaMae]

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15902698/tina-porter-turned-away-in-efforts-to-assist-baby-lisas-parents

http://www.fox4kc.com/videobeta/?watchId=ab7ea607-f35a-45c1-9886-5f309248a98e

http://www.kmbc.com/news/29601540/detail.html

indepmo before it was in MSM
MSM coverage of Baby Lisa 10/28/11 - Page 9 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


indepmo offering that Tina's intentions were only to help-
MSM coverage of Baby Lisa 10/28/11 - Page 11 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


indepmo giving more detailed play by play
10/28/11 Private Investigator Returns, Baby Lisa’s Family Leaves - Page 7 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community





As far as I know, that is all the official information we have on the matter. We're all going to walk away different perspectives, as is to be expected. I don't even know for sure what specifically you wanted confirmation of, so I'm not trying to prove anything- just providing all the links I had on it.

I hope this helps.

Someone knocked on my door about an hour ago, and I did not answer it. I don't have a missing baby, and I am not being hounded day and night by the media or anyone else who wants their 15 minutes, but I still was in no mood to be bothered. I can't imagine that I would want anyone knocking on my door constantly like this family has had to endure.
Just because someone that DB and JI don't know, is knocking on their door wanting some of their time and attention does NOT mean that DB and JI are obligated to give it to them. I think that TP was coming close to harassment. If the family wants help....they now have a way to ask for it. No one needs to go knock on their door unless they just want to get on TV....

No one on this forum, or any other forum, has any idea of what's really going on with this family, or how they feel at this time in their lives. It could be that DB is not strong enough to talk to anyone. It could be that they have gotten legal advice that they are following.

Just because this family is not doing what some forum posters think they should does not mean that they don't love Baby Lisa and want her home safely. No one has any proof of that whatsoever at this point.

I think this family just wants to be left alone, and others should respect that and just back away. There is still the possibility that they could be innocent.
If they want to move to an undisclosed location for some peace, that is not necessarily an indication of guilt either.

I think the hate for DB and JI is getting a little out of hand.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Certainly, the boys need to be protected. However, I think in this case D&J were simply walking their boys up to their home after they had returned from school. While D&J should not ever purposefully expose their children, I think the media should respect the boys privacy while they try to have a semblance of a normal life.

The media doesn't respect anybody, unfortunately. That's why it's up to the parents to implement measures protect their remaining children. Hopefully that trip out of dodge last night was to take the boys to a private location known to LE but hidden from the media.

 

[Donjeta]

Well, I did actually know that. He really is into trendy clubs and likes rubbing elbows with celebs. I think he is flamboyant, and did read a short bio of him. That's just my impression of him.

I just find it curious that his wealthy benefactor supposedly hired him to find Baby Lisa and yet he seems to kowtow to the family and JT. Sorry, but I just personally do not like him. He just rubs me the wrong way.

Evidently BS is on the 'protect' the family team now. I do wish he were more on the 'Working to find Baby Lisa' team.

Just my thoughts. (Got to go run an errand now)

I realize that he is not under any obligation to share with us what he does to find baby Lisa but my impression has been that not a whole lot. He's gone to the morning shows and Lisa wasn't there. Other than that he said that he's going to pass any tips he is given on to LE so LE can investigate which is no more and no less than what everybody should do. He didn't mention anything special that he was doing to generate such tips. Maybe the morning shows could inspire someone to call him but they didn't post his phone number or contact info or anything.

 

[EllaMae]

The drama was captured. It was done at night and with drama. I think a 'convoy' was drama.

Honestly, I would not have thought it so dramatic had it happened during daylight hours.

Okay, I have my opinion and I truly do respect other opinions. I just see things differently.

The drama was created by the media...

Since the family has probably been receiving threats, the convoy may have been necessary.

 

[JSV]

I'm not sure how they would be able to do that if they have media trucks camping on their front door. Never let the children out without bags on their heads?

No bags .I would insist the media not film my minor children .

 

[mentalsolstice]

The media doesn't respect anybody, unfortunately. That's why it's up to the parents to implement measures protect their remaining children. Hopefully that trip out of dodge last night was to take the boys to a private location known to LE but hidden from the media.

I agree, however, I wish the media would respect that these boys are going to leave their home at times to do what normal children do. I agree with you about the trip last night...let's just hope the media doesn't show up across the street from the boys school on Monday morning. I'd hate to think these kids can't be with their friends and classmates.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I must have missed something. Why is everyone, all of a sudden, saying that this dramatic move was for the boys? It clearly was for Wild Bill and his flare for the dramatic.

 

[Deleted member 718]

Wasn't Bill supposed to be "assembling a team of experts to help him investigate Lisa's disappearance"?

I wish we could hear more about the team of experts.

"Stanton said he and his team are now assisting baby Lisa's parents, Debbie Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, in the quest to find their missing daughter. However, the family has not hired him.

"I will be asking questions," Stanton said, reports the station. "I am not here to defend or represent anyone. I have been asked to come out here and to find Lisa and to find the perpetrator or perpetrators."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20119234-504083.html