10/28/11 Private Investigator Returns, Baby Lisas Family Leaves

[JeannaT]

Not even if you know something that may help them find your missing baby?

I see what you're saying, but they have been, and continue to be willing to answer questions that would help find Lisa.

IMHO, they're not willing to submit to thumbscrew interrogations that would cloud the truth because they'd give confusing statements.

 

[SuziQ]

Look at this from the point of an innocent parent. If someone came in and took your child and you had no clue how that happened, or who did it, how much can you tell LE? And how much can you tell LE that only wants the where, when, how and why did you kill your baby? How much can you tell LE when they ask you where Lisa's body is? If you don't know. You don't know. But every minute minute wasted on that type of interrogation is a minute not looking for the right person. I would quit cooperating for that reason alone.

 

[nomoresorrow]

(BBM)

Look at this from the point of an innocent parent. If someone came in and took your child and you had no clue how that happened, or who did it, how much can you tell LE? And how much can you tell LE that only wants the where, when, how and why did you kill your baby? How much can you tell LE when they ask you where Lisa's body is? If you don't know. You don't know. But every minute minute wasted on that type of interrogation is a minute not looking for the right person. I would quit cooperating for that reason alone.

I see it quite differently - every minute wasted by D & J NOT speaking to LE, answering questions/clearing up any/all details is time wasted whereby LE cannot focus 100% elsewhere and move beyond the inner circle of this family. I say 100% because I believe that LE IS following up on ALL leads but unfortunately, until D & J answer any/all questions LE has, that is still a percentage of the investigation being spent stuck on D & J.

 

[sorrell skye]

DB wants everyone to believe that she's been treated poorly by investigators, that she's been accused by LE of being a baby killer. I don't doubt that LE asked her some hard questions. I don't doubt that LE looked her in the eye & asked her to explain some things that she was either unable or unwilling to explain (for whatever reason).

The thing is, it seems she also wants everyone to believe that LE did so for no reason whatsoever other than they want to pin it on her so they can close the case.

Here's how I see it: if LE doesn't believe her account of events regarding Oct. 3/4, they may very well have good reason to disbelieve her, based on their experience & also possibly based on the evidence, as well as based on DB's statements.

If LE doesn't believe her account of events, the only person that can help them to understand is DB. Avoiding answering the "tough" questions is only hindering the investigation. It's not as if LE has been negligent with regard to following up on tips & leads - they've looked into hundreds & hundreds of possible tips & leads.

I don't believe LE has tunnel vision in this case, based on what I've read in articles & seen in media videos. LE has searched high & low.

IMO, DB's attitude of "poor poor pitiful me" has worn so thin these past few weeks that it's threadbare.

 

[justamommy]

(BBM)


I see it quite differently - every minute wasted by D & J NOT speaking to LE, answering questions/clearing up any/all details is time wasted whereby LE cannot focus 100% elsewhere and move beyond the inner circle of this family. I say 100% because I believe that LE IS following up on ALL leads but unfortunately, until D & J answer any/all questions LE has, that is still a percentage of the investigation being spent stuck on D & J.

I think the point of the previous poster was... Maybe DB & JI honestly don't know the answers to the questions that LE is asking. If you don't know, you just don't know. moo

 

[madge]

The thing is how to they know the tough questions, cause they've never went back since October 8 I do believe to meet with LE. I just think it's awful IMHO. Whether it's LE can't exclude them or include them, it's a matter of allowing LE to do it's job and move on to some one else. If they have nothing to hide I honestly don't believe they would be charged. The "laying low" and dodging just leave bad taste

 

[Twelve of One]

The "tough questions" LE wants to ask (IMO) are things like: Do you want to confess to an accident and get a manslaughter charge and bond out before the trial, or do you want us to charge you with first degree murder in which case you will go to jail and sit there until the trial?

That's how LE extracts false confessions. After 14 hours of intense questioning, exhaustion and confusion, most people will take the bait just to get out of the room. Then LE has their confession and the investigation is over.

Innocent people who cooperate in questioning that's directed at extracting a confession are naive and gullible, and could end up harming the investigation.

However, I do think they should submit to some limited questioning (time limits) with their lawyers present. If they give LE what they want ("full cooperation" "without limitations") they're stupid. IMO.

 

[madge]

If LE wanted to continue to ask me those questions and if I had nothing to hide, I'd continue to answer them truthfully. As long as it kept my baby's name out there and interest in finding her then I'd walk over hot coals. I really don't think innocent people confess very often, but I could be wrong LOL

 

[SuziQ]

(BBM)


I see it quite differently - every minute wasted by D & J NOT speaking to LE, answering questions/clearing up any/all details is time wasted whereby LE cannot focus 100% elsewhere and move beyond the inner circle of this family. I say 100% because I believe that LE IS following up on ALL leads but unfortunately, until D & J answer any/all questions LE has, that is still a percentage of the investigation being spent stuck on D & J.

Again, how do you answer questions that you have no answer to?

 

[SuziQ]

If LE wanted to continue to ask me those questions and if I had nothing to hide, I'd continue to answer them truthfully. As long as it kept my baby's name out there and interest in finding her then I'd walk over hot coals. I really don't think innocent people confess very often, but I could be wrong LOL

It's not just false confessions, it's also being wrongly charged and convicted. IIRC, compared to all cases that result in a wrongful conviction it is very low. But it's still high enough to be a worry. One study that surveyed judges and prosecutors estimated up to 10K a year. Also IIRC, the top three reasons were eyewitness misidentifications, prosecutorial misconduct and LE misconduct. I wish poster Wudge was here. He hooked me up with some good information that I didn't save, unfortunately.

If Lisa's parents are innocent, I just don't see the benefit of them talking to LE anymore. You just can't give answers you don't have.

It probably sounds like I believe the parents are innocent. Fact is, I just don't know what happened.

 

[deoneta]

When the parents (and the boys) were intially interviewed, the shifting timeline and many of the conflicting details were not known to the public. I don't know if these inconsistencies were known to LE at that time, but my best guess is that at least some pertinent information came out afterwards. I am basing that on the subsequent public statements of the parents. No wonder LE wants to reinterview the principle witnesses. If the parents are innocent, there is a chance that this baby is alive, and every day that the parents refuse the interviews that could clear them and refocus the resources of this investigation lessens the chance that the baby will ever be found. LE has stated that they are not demanding interviews without the presence of attorneys so the only conclusion I can draw is that the parents are motivated by self interest and not the desire to find their child. All MOO.

 

[cluciano63]

We don't really know if LE has even been allowed to frame new questions that they may have after the search warrants and other facets of the investigation; so we can't really say that the parents know they can't answer them, so why bother...JMO

 

[cluciano63]

IMO a false confession is extremely likely in a missing persons case, seeing how you wouldn't be able to tell LE where the person is, if you were truly innoncent. I can't think of any false confessions in a case without a body. I think that risk is so small as to be almost invisible...and possibly being used as an excuse. JMOJMOJMO

 

[yllek]

DB wants everyone to believe that she's been treated poorly by investigators, that she's been accused by LE of being a baby killer. I don't doubt that LE asked her some hard questions. I don't doubt that LE looked her in the eye & asked her to explain some things that she was either unable or unwilling to explain (for whatever reason)...

Respectfully snipped

I so agree. DB = BD, very similar styles in their attempts to manipulate, imo.

(Note: BD = Billie Dunn)

 

[SuziQ]

We don't really know if LE has even been allowed to frame new questions that they may have after the search warrants and other facets of the investigation; so we can't really say that the parents know they can't answer them, so why bother...JMO

The impression that I get is there is contact between the parents and LE. It's just not in an interrogation form on LE's turf.

 

[justamommy]

When the parents (and the boys) were intially interviewed, the shifting timeline and many of the conflicting details were not known to the public. I don't know if these inconsistencies were known to LE at that time, but my best guess is that at least some pertinent information came out afterwards. I am basing that on the subsequent public statements of the parents. No wonder LE wants to reinterview the principle witnesses. If the parents are innocent, there is a chance that this baby is alive, and every day that the parents refuse the interviews that could clear them and refocus the resources of this investigation lessens the chance that the baby will ever be found. LE has stated that they are not demanding interviews without the presence of attorneys so the only conclusion I can draw is that the parents are motivated by self interest and not the desire to find their child. All MOO.

BBM Can you provide a link please? I am not being snarky. I am curious, because I haven't seen that yet. Thanks

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Serious question from a foreigner here but a lot of post's above talk about the police trying to get a false confession and basically trying to "wrap the case".

Is this really how the police/FBI work in the US even in 2011?

I simply can't believe that LE want to get the bradwins in for questioning just so they can force a confession. I mean, is the US government that corrupt?

Maybe I'm just naive how US LE operates?

 

[mysteriew]

Look at this from the point of an innocent parent. If someone came in and took your child and you had no clue how that happened, or who did it, how much can you tell LE? And how much can you tell LE that only wants the where, when, how and why did you kill your baby? How much can you tell LE when they ask you where Lisa's body is? If you don't know. You don't know. But every minute minute wasted on that type of interrogation is a minute not looking for the right person. I would quit cooperating for that reason alone.

LE most likely got to ask them if they were the one the neighbors saw or if they knew who that might be. But by the time the other person who saw a man carrying a baby came forward, parents weren't meeting with LE. LE isn't going to ask them over the phone where they cannot judge the reactions. So by refusing to answer questions for LE, they have never cleared up if one of them was the man carrying a baby in the other area or if they knew anyone who might have been in that area that night. Thus leaving that questions open and unanswered.

That is just one question I am sure that the parents haven't answered in an interview. I am sure there are others. Under other circumstances where the LE is meeting with the family periodically to bring them up to date on the search, that question could be casually asked and the search could move on. But now they cannot.

 

[Melanie]

I really don't care about what I think I would do in her place...I would hope that I would do the right thing...which is answer each and every question LE has truthfully...and if I didn't I would deserve the scorn of the Nation. Here's how you balance out the issue..which child might be in pain, suffering, cold, hungry and being abused...that is the child that needs you the most as they are in crisis. Take your attorney and get your butt in the chair and truthfully answer the questions...even if it's for the umpteenth time and even if they are adversarial. The truth is the truth is the truth...TELL IT!

:goodpost:

The truth will never change. If the 'rents are telling the truth, they have nothing to worry about. I would even encourage they sit down with their attorney! Actually, I would demand it.

Yup, I was around during the Stephanie Crowe false confession nightmare and followed it closely. LE can be ruthless.

I don't agree that Bradley/Irwin are not sitting down with detectives, and hope they turn things around. But, yah, they should have a lawyer with them.

JMHO.

Mel

 

[mysteriew]

Again, how do you answer questions that you have no answer to?

That's like asking how LE can get answers to questions if the parents won't talk to them. It's just a round robin.

I may not know what questions may have come up. But I am sure there are many questions about things that have come up in the last 3 weeks. But by refusing to submit to interviews, the parents have blocked the ability to answer them. How can they be ruled out if they refuse to talk?