100 questions from the jury: Arias answering on her 16th day on the stand #75

[LaneGirl]

Actually that is when I believe she stabbed him in the chest /lung. He was at his most vulnerable then. Not sure He even knew she was there taking pictures until that moment.

Not to start it again but I have been (still am) of the gun shot first theory. Having said that after seeing her write and drink with her right hand I'm now thinking the stabbing while he was sitting is possible. The reason I couldn't before is because of the direction he was sitting and her left hand (dominate) just didn't match up for me, but now after watching her use her right hand I believe she is very ambadextrious (sp?).

Anyhoo yes he was at his most vunerable while sitting in the shower!

 

[Wake_me]

She said she was planning to kill herself in July 2008 when she was leaving Yreka. Why would she take a picture of the "Travis Alexander's" shorts and t-shirt for sentimental reasons then? It seems like the jury is seeing through her lies ... let's hope so anyway!

Didn't think of that. Good observation! The story alone about why she took the pics was suspect.

 

[josie1986]

There is evidence in that sex tape audio.

And yes, supporting a victim is important.

But turning a blind eye to things that may be important to the case is dangerous.

imo he wasn't literally referring to a 12 year old girl,more of "innocent/virgin having their first orgasm" but that is just the way it came out.

there is no solid evidence he was infact a paedophile,where are the photos, testimony (from his victims) video etc etc?

99.99% of what jodi say is complete BS

yes travis liked sex and he shouldn't have but that does not give her the right to murder him and then murder him a 4th time on the stand!

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I want to think that myself, especially with the question that followed, haha. But I dont understand how that question was allowed? Surely it must be more relevant to the case? Lol

Think one of my favourite parts was when she accidentally started describing her feelings as she was stabbing him. Oops. Juan: "Objection, she testified she doesn't remember stabbing him, if she remembers she should tell us." Hahaha <3

I don't understand why he objected. He should have let her talk and hang herself even more.

 

[commspecialist]

She admitted that this was just fantasy talk. Normal healthy people do have fantasies.

Do normal healthy people have fantasies about children, though? I think not.

I believe that Jodi is guilty of murder. But I also believe that we shouldn't dismiss that as "just talk".

 

[Wishbone]

Most respectfully, you do understand pedophiles have only sexual desires and arousal for children not grown women at all.. They entire focus is on children whether it be female or male. If he was pedophile, Travis would not EVER have any relationship with Jodi or any female.

Now, if she had children, he might con her into a relationship to have an avenue to her children. Since Jodi does not have children. He would not look twice or once at Jodi as a sexual conquest if he was THAT pedophile she is attempting to defile him.

too bad it's not true that ped's only focus on children as that would make them easier to spot. Many are married with children of their own.

 

[UKgirl]

I'm not totally convinced of that because as a quasi professional 'photographer' (as she claims) she would know that the memory card is never 100% deletable. Just like most novice computer users know, the motherboard is not 100% erasable. If it's digitally made, it's almost certain it can be digitally reproduced.
So why chance it?

The memory card (the coup de gras) that contains photos of her with time stamp dates---- is the size of a large postage stamp. And the camera itself is certainly smaller than a gun, clothes, rope and possible knife put together.

At that point (of deciding NOT to take the camera or memory card) she might as well have left her autograph on it along with an apology note!
(and people call her smart?)

This is believe she actually done by mistake. I think she put it not knowingly into the washer. I think she gathered it all up and put it in the wash. Big slip up. If the state hadnt had this evidence I dont think she would have stated self defense, that is along with the other evidence.

 

[Nali87]

IMO, that goes beyond kinky. 12 year olds are CHILDREN.

These two were playing out some schoolgirl type of sex fantasy.
He said something stupid/weird during it.
I'm not going to call someone one of the worst things ever, a pedophile, just by that.
That's not rock solid evidence.
Give me kiddie on his computer. Traces on it can be found even if you delete and delete and delete. That would be rock solid evidence.
None was found.

 

[UKgirl]

too bad it's not true that ped's only focus on children as that would make them easier to spot. Many are married with children of their own.

I was going to state exactly the same thing. Alot of the british peodophile/killers were married and their partners never knew a thing.

 

[kscornfed]

Many pedophiles are married and have children of their own (Sandusky, for example). However, there has been no evidence to suipport that Travis was a pedophile.

about as much as there was to indicate george anthony molested his daughter and hid his granddaughter's body.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

I just want to preface what I'm about to write by saying that I do not intend to blame the victim.

Travis Alexander did not deserve to die, but he was recorded on audio saying that 12-year old girls arouse him. And it's pretty clear that he was, with all due respect, kind of a creep towards women.

I just feel like the coverage of this case is so black in white, painting Travis as a saint and Jodi as the devil itself.

To be clear: I believe that Jodi Arias should be locked up forever and have the key thrown away. Travis Alexander did not deserve to die, he did not deserve to be stalked. She mutilated him. I find it incredibly hard to believe that she killed him in self-defense.

But I do believe that Jodi is telling the truth about his pedophilia and abuse, based on the evidence. Just because he was also attracted to full-grown women does not make him less of a pedophile. The victim was obviously not some kind of angel or saint. Can we stop portraying him as one? It is demeaning to abuse victims everywhere to minimize the danger of pedophilia.

Is there any room for someone with my opinion on this forum? Everyone is baying for blood >>
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Do you have a link for that? That is not what I heard at all and a gross miss-characterization of what I heard.

Did you also catch the part of the tape where Travis admits he had never self pleasured before meeting her? I felt even before hearing that, that JA introduced, or rather seduced him into the world of SM and role playing. I heard a man trying hard to play the game because he felt it turned her on.

The only 'evidence' for the claim of pedophilia is the word of a verified liar (by her own admission, I might add) and the same with the abuse. The only way to extract abuse, is to chop up and take out of content words to create the illusion.

Second bold - saying that there is no evidence of pedophilia on the part of the victim is NOT minimizing the horror of pedophilia. Lying about it when it didn't exist does though. And on behalf of all of us whom have been truly abused or had a child abused - the twisting (I am being nice - it is lies, IMHO) of domestic violence to fit a defense to save your hide is in itself like re-abusing all whom have ever been violated by abuse.

Third bold - jodi already did that - except I would replace your word baying with slaying.

 

[G&AMom]

That's right!

Good thing this jury is taking notes. And remembering!

Most cannot keep up with her changing stories.

I certainly can't!

And I'm already having trouble keeping up with the thread this am. Lol

ITA. I was thinking this morning that Shanna Hogan, who's writing a book about this case, really has her work cut out for her trying to explain the many, many stories to someone who hasn't really followed the case.

 

[Ms.Heather]

The jurors are not stupid. Judging by their questions they have been listening intently to her story. I am pretty sure her dancing around answering the questions is not going unnoticed. The more she talks the more damage she doing to herself, although she thinks the more info she gives them the more they will believe her. Jodys excessive talking is doing Jody no good.

ITA! I thought there were several questions that were done to test her. Like this one... I could see someone who either worked at a restaurant or with Workers Comp claims asking this question... Just to see if she would lie to them. The question about her vision, I could see coming from someone who worked in Optometry... I also got the impression that there is a member of the jury who knows a little something about being a Mormon.

 

[CJae]

There is evidence in that sex tape audio.

And yes, supporting a victim is important.

But turning a blind eye to things that may be important to the case is dangerous.

It was proven it could not have happened.

And that gives no one the right to give the DP for having a fantasy over a PHONE that was never acted out on!!

She kept steering that phone call back to sex. It was insurance for her revenge. Her own brother has said this. To give to his other GF's in future.

 

[LadyEdith]

Catching up from yesterday and listening to her... jeez. I hope every single juror sees through her lies. She is a narcissist to the core. It's not her fault her exes ever cheated on her, nothing she could have done to prevent those. She was TOO trusting. Too lax. Travis was always at fault in their relationship, but St. Jodi of Arias wanted to paint him in a good light.

She remembers her emotions when stabbing him but not the stabbing. GMAB. She sounds condescending talking to the jury. Explaining her "special" condition.

At once I would have been happy with a LWOP verdict, but I definitely want a DP verdict now. What she did to him is disgusting and what she's doing now even more so.

And did they ever really cheat on her? It sounds like (with Matt at least) he considered them "broken up". Who is confused about that kind of thing? It's never been ambiguous to me when I was in a break up. Jodi just can't take "no" for an answer, and refused to accept the break-up. Therefore, she labels her lack of boundaries as his cheating.

In my opinion, this is typical borderline behavior (we know at the very least she is a malignant narcissist/sociopath). Borderlines are constantly looking for reasons they are not "special". So even when someone is faithful, they are always searching for evidence that they are being cheated on. If it is not there, then innocent interaction becomes signs of infidelity--basically, they always find what they are looking for. My sister has these characteristics. She used to become enraged if her ex-husband would be too nice to the girl behind the checkout counter.

 

[borndem]

I just want to preface what I'm about to write by saying that I do not intend to blame the victim.

Travis Alexander did not deserve to die, but he was recorded on audio saying that 12-year old girls arouse him. And it's pretty clear that he was, with all due respect, kind of a creep towards women.

I just feel like the coverage of this case is so black in white, painting Travis as a saint and Jodi as the devil itself.

To be clear: I believe that Jodi Arias should be locked up forever and have the key thrown away. Travis Alexander did not deserve to die, he did not deserve to be stalked. She mutilated him. I find it incredibly hard to believe that she killed him in self-defense.

But I do believe that Jodi is telling the truth about his pedophilia and abuse, based on the evidence. Just because he was also attracted to full-grown women does not make him less of a pedophile. The victim was obviously not some kind of angel or saint. Can we stop portraying him as one? It is demeaning to abuse victims everywhere to minimize the danger of pedophilia.

Is there any room for someone with my opinion on this forum? Everyone is baying for blood >>
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There is PLENTY OF ROOM for you, commspecialist!! There is no litmus test for joining in, other than common decency and TOS -- which includes, but is not limited to, no victim bashing; no bashing of other posters; no "blue" posting; general common decency in posting; being respectful, and other rules which you (and all of us) should be aware, but you prolly get my drift. But do take a look at the TOS if you have not!

Certainly not all of us agree with each other! There is more than one of us in this pile of posters! And you know how opinions are -- everybody has one! A different way to look at something, a detail that maybe only you have noticed, life experiences, etc., etc., make us all different (and alike, too). That's what keeps so many of us on this site.

Please jump in with us, comm!! We don't bite, we aren't mean or ugly (and if this ever does happen, the mods will take that up with the individual.)

Respectful and different or additional ideas, etc., are what it's all about here.

Come on in the water's fine! :seeya:

IMHO

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Yeah, if not reported to the employer you don't have to. But if an employee comes to me and says hey blah blah blah, and it cut my finger. I have to do an accident report. Whether they seek medical care is their decision.

I think JA would have been better served to simply say she didn't tell anyone.

Kelly

Didn't Jodi refer to this injury as her trophy injury? I don't know what she meant by trophy but for me it means you won a prize, hit the lottery or are planning on moving to Fiji on disability payments from the injury. If Jodi didn't fill out every form imaginable trying to get compensated for the on the job injury then I don't believe it ever happened like she claims.

 

[UKgirl]

I hated the way she stated about the spiderman underwear. I hate the way she brought into her statement that travis knew a little boy who liked spiderman so he must have the idea off him. It gave me the creeps, so nasty.

 

[grammieto5]

I just want to preface what I'm about to write by saying that I do not intend to blame the victim.

Travis Alexander did not deserve to die, but he was recorded on audio saying that 12-year old girls arouse him. And it's pretty clear that he was, with all due respect, kind of a creep towards women.

I just feel like the coverage of this case is so black in white, painting Travis as a saint and Jodi as the devil itself.

To be clear: I believe that Jodi Arias should be locked up forever and have the key thrown away. Travis Alexander did not deserve to die, he did not deserve to be stalked. She mutilated him. I find it incredibly hard to believe that she killed him in self-defense.

But I do believe that Jodi is telling the truth about his pedophilia and abuse, based on the evidence. Just because he was also attracted to full-grown women does not make him less of a pedophile. The victim was obviously not some kind of angel or saint. Can we stop portraying him as one? It is demeaning to abuse victims everywhere to minimize the danger of pedophilia.

Is there any room for someone with my opinion on this forum? Everyone is baying for blood >>
:twocents:

I missed hearing Travis (the victim) say 12 year old girls arouse him. I find JA more demeaning to abuse victims. I also do not remember anyone here saying Travis was some kind of angel or saint. JA is not a victim, everything she did with/for Travis she did because she wanted to.

 

[luvtenniss]

Do normal healthy people have fantasies about children, though? I think not.

I believe that Jodi is guilty of murder. But I also believe that we shouldn't dismiss that as "just talk".

I just think it was one of those things he said in the heat of the moment. There is no way I believe Travis had a thing for kids. Plus, JA did sound like a young girl. He was just wrapped up in the moment - he was not a pedophile.

Plus, he just said she sounded like a 12 year old girl, not that they aroused him.