11/9/11 MSM reports "major change" to timeline (Oct. 4 phone call)

[Sparklin]

1-DB herself said she went in at 1030
2-DB herself said in an interview she got on puter after she went in at 1030
3-If the neighbors were still out front on her front porch until 1130-I would think they would have seen someone trying to break in DB'D front window
4-they would have seen kidnapper walk out front door with baby!!!
I am not going to argue-I believe DB is not telling the truth!!

BBM = do you know when she said that or have a link? I'll try to find the link if you don't, but I want to make sure she didn't say she went to bed at 10:30. My mind can sometimes change things on its own will Kinda like the timeline in this horror story.

 

[Sparklin]

:waitasec:

Now, there is this 11:57 p.m. phone call ... AND

Remember the "neighbors" who was interviewed on HLN -- "Lisa" and her husband [whose name we do not know] -- who "claim" they saw a man carrying a baby around 12:15 p.m. in the neighborhood ...

No way an intruder did it ... no way ...

MOO ...

Just askin'.. did the call HAVE to come from inside the house? or in the vicinity? Would it be that precise? I have no clue :waitasec:

 

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jimspellmancnn jim spellman
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@TaraHogan991 Nicole saw dane with phone from 7p or maybe earlier through about midnight when Megan got it back.

Who's Nicole?

 

[Sparklin]

Syra, none of these timelines fit. And on top of that, it's coming from sources that are not verifiable. I'm not trying to get into a huge argument with you, I understand your opinion and position. I just don't trust any of these stories and because the story has changed so much, to me, it's impossible to come to the conclusion of certain things, namely who made the call when we can't for sure determine who's telling the truth anymore.

Agreed! I'm thinking the original call of 2:30 will be back in circulation shortly. :floorlaugh:

 

[iamnotagolem]

Who's Nicole?

Another resident of the "meth house".

 

[mamamia54]

Oh this is beginning to get just ridiculous. MW now has her own FB page so that she can answer questions from the public, and LE is just allowing her to do this?? I fear this case is getting way out of hand.

 

[Sparklin]

First two statements I could find about phone calls. No wonder it's so confusing.

2:30 am call
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/01/3243023/new-local-lawyer-joins-team-helping.html

8:00/8:30 pm call
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/01/ijvm.01.html

And now we have another. Great.

and to make it worse, JVM says it was supposedly TAKEN at 10:30 (bbm)~ almost amusing if it wasn't so very very sad! I pray that LE is messing with people and this isn't the same garbage they are dealing with!!

So the obvious question is, if she says that she was out on the stoop with the neighbor until 10:30 at night, and then passes out in bed, and then her child is abducted after that, how is it possible for a phone call to be made from a phone that was supposedly taken at 10:30, at 8 to somebody that she doesn`t know? It`s a very bizarre situation.

 

[cluciano63]

Oh this is beginning to get just ridiculous. MW now has her own FB page so that she can answer questions from the public, and LE is just allowing her to do this?? I fear this case is getting way out of hand.

I don't see how LE could prevent it. I am sure they are monitoring it.

 

[mamamia54]

I don't see how LE could prevent it. I am sure they are monitoring it.

Well I would certainly hope so because WAY too many people know her address. I actually fear for HER safety at this point.

 

[SmoothOperator]

No, MW did not get her cell back that night.

Well searching via mobile certainly is challenging but I had to find the video and link showing that MW DID GET HER PHONE BACK THAT NIGHT AT 11:00pm.. I knew that she had originally stated that she had no clue who, if anyone had answered the call that came in from the Irwin/Bradley cell phone at 8-8:30pm on the night Lisa disappeared.. But most importantly that she'd gotten her cell phone back in her possession shortly thereafter the 8:30pm call so she could confirm/verify THAT HER CELL RECEIVED NO CALL AT/AROUND 2:30am DUE TO HER HAVING HER PHONE BACK IN HER POSSESSION!!

As I said absolutely contradicting her now accounting that "Dane" had her phone for 2 days!!

Here's the direct quote of Megan Wright followed by a link that includes the video of the info that she had her cell phone IN HER POSSESSION THAT NIGHT coming straight from the horsie's mouth..

"I didn't have my phone at the time, but apparently there was a 50 second phone call from one of the family's phones to my cell phone. About 50 seconds long," she said. "I don't know what was said or who called or who answered my phone. But that's what the police have been questioning me about."

Wright said she received her phone back between 11 p.m. and 11:30 p.m. Oct. 3, just a few hours after the mysterious phone call was received.

http://m.kctv5.com/w/main/story/44781037/

 

[serveitup]

I don't see how LE could prevent it. I am sure they are monitoring it.

I'll bet she knows everyone is watching her. They say someone is always watching. Where were they when baby Lisa disappeared?

 

[Kamille]

Still catching up and am one page behind so hoping someone's already linked to MW's original statements regarding her phone which absolutely contradict her newest statements of not having her cell phone AT ALL THAT NIGHT AND THAT DANE HAD IT FOR TWO DAYS..

If not I'll have to go search for it because I know for certain that MW originally stated that she didn't know who had her phone "at that time"(I.e @8:30 when 50sec call came in).. That it was pretty much a "community phone"..BUT THAT MW DID INDEED HAVE HER PHONE BACK SOON THEREAFTER THE CALL CAME IN.. FURTHERMORE STATING THAT SHE COULD VERIFY AND CONFIRM THAT NO 2:30/2:38am CALL CAME INTO HER PHONE BECAUSE SHE, HERSELF HAD HER CELL PHONE IN HER POSSESSION AT 2:30am AND THE REMAINDER OF THE NIGHT!

Her newest story is an absolute contradiction of what she originally stated!!
Has someone already linked her original statement showing this?

I thought it was just me going crazy with these times but I do absolutely remember her saying that she got that phone back, that evening, around 11-11:30pm. Of course all that changed when she found out that she had been lied to about the 8:30pm time and that the call could have been placed as late as 2:30am.

I believe it was in this interview which has mysteriously been severely edited.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/generic/news/Lisa-Irwin-AMBER-Alert

Scroll down to video titled "KC woman got call from missing Irwin phone"

ETA: I see you've found a link to the actual news story. Thank You! I was sure I had seen and/or read it somewhere.

 

[Sparklin]

I guess I'm not getting your math. IMO the timeline of them going in at 11:30, being entered and calling at 11:57, with a sighting at 12:15 (I personally can't credit the 4AM sighting just yet) makes so much more sense than the 8:30 call. Alternatively, it makes so much more sense if it was DB too- waits till they go in to make a help call or whatever it was.

Hypothetically, she didn't black out (she said "it's possible" in which case she has some memory) and went in at 10:30. Get on computer.
11:00 stumbles to bed (or up to no good, whatever side of the fence you hang).
11:30 neighbors go inside.
11:45 whomever is watching neighbors to leave (friend, family, DB, stranger, etc) proceeds to break in (or prepare things?)
11:57, makes call.
12:07 leaves house. (note: this number is random, not sourced)
12:15 seen on Chelsea.

To me this timeline is so much more plausible than 8:30/12:15/2:00/4:00.

me too ~ but since Jeremy didn't call home that night (figuring the phones didn't work) then Deb was expecting him at any time. I still don't get how Deb and/or Jeremy could have done anything. And the oddest part of that to me would be why they would freak out, wake the neighbour and place a 4:00 am 911 call. #1 - Deb alone = no matter how things happened, she would be extremely distraught. She def. wouldn't be willing to deal with this right now. TURN OFF THE LIGHTS! Leave the door unlocked...Jeremy comes in, it's dark, probably is irked by the door being unlocked, tiptoes off to bed exhausted! Deb doesn't have to deal with things until morning. #2 (which doesn't even seem possible AT ALL) IF Jeremy was involved in ANY way, why not just go to bed and wait until morning to call 911 - more time to plan, scheme, calm down?? I can't see either one, so yes someone other than D or J, in my mind, took Little Lisa

 

[vlpate]

jimspellmancnn jim spellman
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@TaraHogan991 Nicole saw dane with phone from 7p or maybe earlier through about midnight when Megan got it back.

Yeah, this is getting ridiculous. She, MW, keeps changing her story and now she's completely clammed up. I was willing to defend her until her story started changing every hour.

 

[vlpate]

I guess I'm not getting your math. IMO the timeline of them going in at 11:30, being entered and calling at 11:57, with a sighting at 12:15 (I personally can't credit the 4AM sighting just yet) makes so much more sense than the 8:30 call. Alternatively, it makes so much more sense if it was DB too- waits till they go in to make a help call or whatever it was.

Hypothetically, she didn't black out (she said "it's possible" in which case she has some memory) and went in at 10:30. Get on computer.
11:00 stumbles to bed (or up to no good, whatever side of the fence you hang).
11:30 neighbors go inside.
11:45 whomever is watching neighbors to leave (friend, family, DB, stranger, etc) proceeds to break in (or prepare things?)
11:57, makes call.
12:07 leaves house. (note: this number is random, not sourced)
12:15 seen on Chelsea.

To me this timeline is so much more plausible than 8:30/12:15/2:00/4:00.

Seriously, there is not time line etched in stone at this point. Too much comes out that changes everything every day, What will we learn tomorrow? Will we hear another neighbor was standing in the driveway at midnight asking DB for a light?? Frigging disgusting. A lot of this is important in finding Lisa. The relatives of Shane may know something about him that could have helped from day one....we are over a month into it. Where the HE!! is Lisa?

 

[Abby Normal]

I distinctly remember hearing about DB reprogramming the phones a few times.

I don't think that was ever on the timeline. You could try and find a link if you want to assert it, but I'm pretty sure the reprogramming comment was to explain why they phones were on the counter. Because she "had" been reprogramming them.

 

[AlmostGone]

Wasn't a FOURTH phone found in the computer desk? I hadn't heard it's status..working or non-working

Yes I believe I remember reading that too lol

 

[Kamille]

She was kicked out of the N Brighton house in August.

I thought she said the flop house was also either on or just off of N Brighton. Do you know where it is In da Middle?

 

[Sparklin]

I distinctly remember hearing about DB reprogramming the phones a few times.

Yes she did say that, but not in regards to that night, just that this was the reason they were on the counter all together.

 

[Abby Normal]

Sorry coming in late here didn't MW also state she hasn't seen Dane since Lisa has been missing ?

IIRC- she said (at least in one interview/maybe gave more detail on her facebook page, can't remember for certain) that he denied answering the phone that night (at 8:30) but admitted to answering her phone the next morning when a detective called. She said he blew it off, gave a fake name and didn't take it seriously. Which is why they had to set her up by the GPS listing. Then she said he took off after he gave the phone back, disappeared for a week, and then returned while the detectives were there. Talked to him, and then he took off again and this time she has no idea where he went and can't get in contact with him.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...ng-Irwin-phone-wants-her-name-cleared-in-case

eta another link http://kansascitypi.blogspot.com/2011/11/megan-wright-in-her-own-words.html