17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #10

[kimpage]

Wow i now love Lawrence O'Donnel on MSNBC.....On his show now they are pointing out how GZand his frinds and families statements to the media do not add up..I love people who dont mince words and get facts......IMHO JMO and all that

 

[tehcloser]

How do we know that Trayvon's body was found in that manner? Feet touching the sidewalk, body on grass facing the house?

From TM's fathers interview where he walked the area and told what LE had shown/told him.

 

[gxm]

The witness said Zimmerman got up in seconds and was walking around and didn't look injured and Trayvon was dead.

IMO, it sounds like TM died instantly. I have wondered if the bullet hit him in the heart.

On a web search I read that if the gunshot is very close, the victim's blood can be sucked back into the muzzle. It's called internal muzzle staining. If LE still has GZ's gun, they can test for this.

 

[iluvmua]

He was actually showing his face. I have to give him credit for manning up to do that - unlike his father.

His father is receiving Death Threats. The whole family is.

 

[gxm]

Wow i now love Lawrence O'Donnel on MSNBC.....On his show now they are pointing out how GZand his frinds and families statements to the media do not add up..I love people who dont mince words and get facts......IMHO JMO and all that

Of course they don't. None of them were there when it happened.

 

[suzihawk]

My grandma would have turned the hose on em!

That didn't work too well for the Anthonys.


(Sorry, cityslick!)

 

[rbrnmw2]

Did GZ brother just say that?

yes he did it disgusted me

 

[Dr.Fessel]

How do we know that Trayvon's body was found in that manner? Feet touching the sidewalk, body on grass facing the house?

It is what the police told the dad. It is in the video the dad made of the crime scene.

 

[uvamerica]

Okay, here's the problem. TM's body was found with his feet touching the sidewalk but his whole body was on the grass facing towards the house. He was lying face down, hands touching each other, arms under his body. GZ claims TM was on top of him banging his head on the cement sidewalk which means he was in the opposite direction from where TM's body ended up. Something does not add up. They need an accident reconstructionist. jmo

It makes no sense does it ? something really smells here, I tired of :waiting: for this info to come to light, been over a month now

 

[LolaMoon08]

That didn't work too well for the Anthonys.


(Sorry, cityslick!)

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[Lovejac]

I wonder if GZ's wife or mother will ever speak out, like his father and brother.

 

[m00c0w]

The witness said Zimmerman got up in seconds and was walking around and didn't look injured and Trayvon was dead.

AC: "Did you see the person being shot..."
Witness: "When you're looking and you only see one person on top of each other, you can't really see the person underneath."

"Just so I'm clear, you believe the person who shot was on top?"
"I can't really say, I-cause it was just, it was just so dark, but I mean, I'm just saying in your head, you're thinking when all of a sudden when a couple of seconds later in the dark you see that person that's alive walk away um, you obviously go 'Okay, he must have got up and he walked away' when the other person is still laying there, face-down."

"But it's not clear to you whether he was on top and got up after shooting Trayvon Martin, or if he was on the bottom of the struggle and and shot and Trayvon Martin fell, uh, or slid off him or he slid out from Trayvon Martin; you're not clear?"
"I did not see any of that, like who slid, just kind of from watching as they're both down there and hearing and watching the shots, then, you know, there might have been darkness or shading [?] because there were porch lights on, you, you, I'd just say a little bit of that time to the time he got up, which isn't that much time, probably a couple of seconds, um, you know, then I saw him walking, saw he was a hispanic man."

Forgive any typos, please. This is accurate to the best of my ability and ears. Others can verify.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Am I remembering right???

Didn't TM's father say that LE told him there were two confrontations before the shot?

Now the witness on AC360 said there were two also?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I wonder if GZ's wife or mother will ever speak out, like his father and brother.

Wonder if they will try to sue the Martins for George's PTS?

 

[LolaMoon08]

I wonder if GZ's wife or mother will ever speak out, like his father and brother.

I would LOVE to ask Mrs. Zimmerman Jr. if she witnessed the burglaries in the neighborhood with her own eyes to give LE a description of the "black teen suspects" that were commiting all the crime in the area?

 

[LolaMoon08]

Wonder if they will try to sue the Martins for George's PTS?

If that doesn't work, there's always Skittles and Arizona?

 

[raeann]

In the 911 calls from the neighbors and in the interviews that I have heard, not one of them KNEW Zimmerman or identified that they recognized him in any way during the incident. This man was NOT a guard, he was not THE neighborhood watchman, the complex did not even have a registered neighborhood watch program at all. GZ did not follow any of the three most basic rules of that program: Do NOT PATROL the neighborhood, Do NOT attempt to stop anyone, do NOT attempt to detain anyone. This program has TWO instructions: WATCH the area and CALL 911....that's it.

These neighbors can not be blamed for not exiting their house to "help" as far as they knew ZIMMERMAN was an intruder and a criminal who did not belong in their neighborhood. WHY would they go outside to help him?

jmo

 

[tehcloser]

Am I remembering right???

Didn't TM's father say that LE told him there were two confrontations before the shot?

Now the witness on AC360 said there were two also?

In the same grassy area is what tonight's guy says.

 

[flourish]

Wow i now love Lawrence O'Donnel on MSNBC.....On his show now they are pointing out how GZand his frinds and families statements to the media do not add up..I love people who dont mince words and get facts......IMHO JMO and all that

I'm watching it, too! It is good, I agree

Phone witness talking about camera angles showing GZ fatter or not as fat or something?

Talking about bagging hands, feet, and taking shoes for evidence. Discusses GZ wiping his shoes on the police office mat on the video...

Oh the evidence lost...

 

[jjenny]

:waitasec:

That's what I had said, when you responded that you don't know how I could say that. :waitasec:

This supposed witness says that he saw the whole thing, he was dwon there and that he said to stop and he was going up to call 911. We never heard that 911 call, the ones we heard said they didn't see what was going on.

To me it's a little hinky that either he never called 911 or that's the only 911 call not to get released.

No matter, time will tell and there's no point going round and round about it now.

JMHO

What witness are you talking about? John didn't claim to have seen the whole thing from start to finish.