AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Mauritius]

So true. Heck, there's a bazillion different opinions on the man in the video. Some think it's a woman. Some say he looks white, others think he's Hispanic or Middle Eastern. Some think he's young, some say middle aged. How the heck is he supposed to be identified when he looks like everyone and no one at the same time?

He could be a worker, a neighbor, a stalker, a burglar, a tweaker, an American, a foreigner, etc. At this point, who isn't on the list?

It really is a wake up call that even with actual security video, and with widespread publicity of the video, and even with a reward, a criminal cannot necessarily be identified.

 

[submarine7]

It really is a wake up call that even with actual security video, and with widespread publicity of the video, and even with a reward, a criminal cannot necessarily be identified

Just noting that I don't think most people believe they will ever really receive a reward and they're correct. But, your point is well taken. This case highlights security issues in that region and the world at large.

 

[submarine7]

Did anybody watch BEs report tonight? I found some things strange.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Sheriff Nanos said at the February 2nd presser...

"She has house staff that comes by takes care of the yard, whatever, that in her house and that."

Could the DNA be a mixture because it is partially matching someone's buccal swab DNA that was already taken and submitted into evidence from Nancy's family, friends, workers?

Btw, I need DNA for dummies. I don't know much about it.

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[Charlot123]

Right now, I gather that the borders are pretty much closed to people coming from other countries. At the moment, I think most undocumented people would already live here. (I mean, new people still enter the U.S., but I don't think they're likely to commute back and forth.)

Of course, if an undocumented person, or a U.S. citizen, had committed a crime in the US, they might flee to Mexico.

My guess is that Lantana man is at least a resident of the U.S. I mean, he appears to do some of his shopping at or from Walmart....

JMO

Not the best time to flee to Mexico. Right now it is dangerous.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

That's scary. How would they track them down? I hope they are successful with the DNA but let's just say it is an undocumented worker would they even be able to track them via DNA or genealogy?
I read that there are undocumented workers who cross the border everyday to work and then go back across the border in the evening after work.

If they are an undocumented worker, depending on their genetic makeup, they maybe difficult to track via DNA. Spanish and Native Americans are sadly very underrepresented in the databases, making it hard to pinpoint a family tree to work.

Case in point is Ventura Co Jane Doe. You can read about here case here.

Ventura Co Jane Doe | DNA Doe Project

dnadoeproject.org

They have been working her case for years. They have made progress, but not close enough for an identification. Due to the lack of close matches and endogamy in the ancestral trees of her DNA cousins and complications related to tracing the migration of persons from Mexico to the United States we still haven’t identified her immediate family.

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

I have a really strong feeling that they are going to find a body in the next few days

 

[Laura Avery]

When I looked at the face mask he was wearing I looked it up. It says it's not available in stores, online only. Just an observation.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Hopefully this is ok to post....if not please delete.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022203831317410113

 

[apeXperience]

Who could be a man (and may be along a companion woman) who’s voice would be familiar and non threatening to Nancy Guthrie such that she would open the door at 2:30 am to respond to pressing call?

• IF there is zero blood inside the house (this is a large IF since the FBI wisely and the talkative side fortunately are mute about it), then Nancy Guthrie was struck and injured at the threshold of her house where her blood is
• She is forcibly removed and disappeared from her home, which technically means the crime is a kidnapping
• Given that she was certainly taken violently and injured, there is a possibility that it was a first degree murder from day one
• Given that Nancy Guthrie is 1) 84 year old, 2) with heart condition, 3) on pacemaker, 4) taking life saving medications daily, 5) injured, and 6) outside the comfort of her home for 23 days, sadly this crime looks like a first degree murder now

 

[danablue1]

Hopefully this is ok to post....if not please delete.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022203831317410113

Possibly the head shspe and eyebrows but the body type he looks taller and thinner to me

 

[FaviousM]

Who could be a man (and may be along a companion woman) who’s voice would be familiar and non threatening to Nancy Guthrie such that she would open the door at 2:30 am to respond to pressing call?

• IF there is zero blood inside the house (this is a large IF since the FBI wisely and the talkative side fortunately are mute about it), then Nancy Guthrie was struck and injured at the threshold of her house where her blood is
• She is forcibly removed and disappeared from her home, which technically means the crime is a kidnapping
• Given that she was certainly taken violently and injured, there is a possibility that it was a first degree murder from day one
• Given that Nancy Guthrie is 1) 84 year old, 2) with heart condition, 3) on pacemaker, 4) taking life saving medications daily, 5) injured, and 6) outside the comfort of her home for 23 days, sadly this crime looks like a first degree murder now

There's been no confirmation that she did open the door. The reporting I've seen suggests the Sheriff said she was taken from her bed while sleeping.

Nancy Guthrie abduction: The full timeline

A more detailed timeline is emerging as the search intensifies for 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie, the mother of "Today" show host Savannah Guthrie.

abcnews.com

 

[CrimeDawg123]

When I looked at the face mask he was wearing I looked it up. It says it's not available in stores, online only. Just an observation.

I can't imagine anywhere in Tucson, except maybe hunting or skiing outfitters, would stock masks like that.

 

[Laura Avery]

I can't imagine anywhere in Tucson, except maybe hunting or skiing outfitters, would stock masks like that.

The odd thing is most people who wear masks wear the simple thinner black ones now. It's almost as if he just picked up a mask , but it's not a normal thing for him.

 

[Angeleyes_7]

 

[Chucky42]

With 400 officers working around the clock on this - I would hope so.

400! And yet nothing…so much going on that we have no idea about but continue to speculate…

 

[Chucky42]

Did anybody watch BEs report tonight? I found some things strange.

What?

 

[submarine7]

What?

I thought it was strange that the attorney said his client pulled over to confront le in an unmarked car. Unless that's normal and more related to current politics, I think it's suspicious. I wish the attorney had clarified. It struck me as paranoid.

 

[Data Sleuth]

Finding the perp will lead to finding Nancy.

Only if the perp is willing to tell LE where NG is located. If she has expired it would be difficult to get a manslaughter/murder conviction if there is no body, thus the perp has no incentive to identify her location.
Unfortunately if she has passed she could be buried anywhere.
My opinion only

 

[mickey2942]

One thing that troubles me is yes, Nancy had help, but oftentimes landscapers and tradesmen hire day laborers who aren't on the books. LE may not have the complete picture of everyone who worked at the home.

Exactly. Which goes back to the "Elizabeth Smart" kidnapping. Her parents hired a random street person, Brian David Mitchell, who saw Elizabeth, and came back to kidnap her. Absolutely, no information about who he was, or where he came from. No way for LEO to even start to tie him to the case.