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So true. Heck, there's a bazillion different opinions on the man in the video. Some think it's a woman. Some say he looks white, others think he's Hispanic or Middle Eastern. Some think he's young, some say middle aged. How the heck is he supposed to be identified when he looks like everyone and no one at the same time?

He could be a worker, a neighbor, a stalker, a burglar, a tweaker, an American, a foreigner, etc. At this point, who isn't on the list?
It really is a wake up call that even with actual security video, and with widespread publicity of the video, and even with a reward, a criminal cannot necessarily be identified.
 
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It really is a wake up call that even with actual security video, and with widespread publicity of the video, and even with a reward, a criminal cannot necessarily be identified
Just noting that I don't think most people believe they will ever really receive a reward and they're correct. But, your point is well taken. This case highlights security issues in that region and the world at large.
 
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Did anybody watch BEs report tonight? I found some things strange.
 
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Sheriff Nanos said at the February 2nd presser...

"She has house staff that comes by takes care of the yard, whatever, that in her house and that."

Could the DNA be a mixture because it is partially matching someone's buccal swab DNA that was already taken and submitted into evidence from Nancy's family, friends, workers?

Btw, I need DNA for dummies. I don't know much about it.
I recommend this book for beginners in DNA. It is by Colleen Fitzpatrick.

Dr. Colleen Fitzpatrick - Identifinders International - Forensic Genetic Genealogy Pioneers​

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Colleen Fitzpatrick, PhD is an internationally recognized forensic genealogist and pioneer in the development of forensic genetic genealogy for solving violent crime and unknown person cold cases.

 
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Right now, I gather that the borders are pretty much closed to people coming from other countries. At the moment, I think most undocumented people would already live here. (I mean, new people still enter the U.S., but I don't think they're likely to commute back and forth.)

Of course, if an undocumented person, or a U.S. citizen, had committed a crime in the US, they might flee to Mexico.

My guess is that Lantana man is at least a resident of the U.S. I mean, he appears to do some of his shopping at or from Walmart....

JMO

Not the best time to flee to Mexico. Right now it is dangerous.
 
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That's scary. How would they track them down? I hope they are successful with the DNA but let's just say it is an undocumented worker would they even be able to track them via DNA or genealogy?
I read that there are undocumented workers who cross the border everyday to work and then go back across the border in the evening after work.
If they are an undocumented worker, depending on their genetic makeup, they maybe difficult to track via DNA. Spanish and Native Americans are sadly very underrepresented in the databases, making it hard to pinpoint a family tree to work.

Case in point is Ventura Co Jane Doe. You can read about here case here.


They have been working her case for years. They have made progress, but not close enough for an identification. Due to the lack of close matches and endogamy in the ancestral trees of her DNA cousins and complications related to tracing the migration of persons from Mexico to the United States we still haven’t identified her immediate family.
 
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I have a really strong feeling that they are going to find a body in the next few days
 
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When I looked at the face mask he was wearing I looked it up. It says it's not available in stores, online only. Just an observation.
 
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Who could be a man (and may be along a companion woman) who’s voice would be familiar and non threatening to Nancy Guthrie such that she would open the door at 2:30 am to respond to pressing call?
  • IF there is zero blood inside the house (this is a large IF since the FBI wisely and the talkative side fortunately are mute about it), then Nancy Guthrie was struck and injured at the threshold of her house where her blood is
  • She is forcibly removed and disappeared from her home, which technically means the crime is a kidnapping
  • Given that she was certainly taken violently and injured, there is a possibility that it was a first degree murder from day one
  • Given that Nancy Guthrie is 1) 84 year old, 2) with heart condition, 3) on pacemaker, 4) taking life saving medications daily, 5) injured, and 6) outside the comfort of her home for 23 days, sadly this crime looks like a first degree murder now
 
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Who could be a man (and may be along a companion woman) who’s voice would be familiar and non threatening to Nancy Guthrie such that she would open the door at 2:30 am to respond to pressing call?
  • IF there is zero blood inside the house (this is a large IF since the FBI wisely and the talkative side fortunately are mute about it), then Nancy Guthrie was struck and injured at the threshold of her house where her blood is
  • She is forcibly removed and disappeared from her home, which technically means the crime is a kidnapping
  • Given that she was certainly taken violently and injured, there is a possibility that it was a first degree murder from day one
  • Given that Nancy Guthrie is 1) 84 year old, 2) with heart condition, 3) on pacemaker, 4) taking life saving medications daily, 5) injured, and 6) outside the comfort of her home for 23 days, sadly this crime looks like a first degree murder now
There's been no confirmation that she did open the door. The reporting I've seen suggests the Sheriff said she was taken from her bed while sleeping.

 
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When I looked at the face mask he was wearing I looked it up. It says it's not available in stores, online only. Just an observation.
I can't imagine anywhere in Tucson, except maybe hunting or skiing outfitters, would stock masks like that.
 
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I can't imagine anywhere in Tucson, except maybe hunting or skiing outfitters, would stock masks like that.
The odd thing is most people who wear masks wear the simple thinner black ones now. It's almost as if he just picked up a mask , but it's not a normal thing for him.
 
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Nancy Guthrie Update: Son-In-Law Faces Scrutiny Over $1M Home And Inheritance Trail​


Investigators released Nest and Ring camera footage showing a masked intruder entering Nancy's home.

Experts analysing the footage noted a level of confidence and familiarity in the way the individual moved through the property, described as 'ownership behaviour'.

The suspect navigated the porch with precision, avoided cameras, and even tapped the lens as if testing its response.

Tommaso signed a durable power of attorney granting Annie control over his financial and property affairs in May 2025.

Legal experts say this is routine in real estate transactions, but the timing, eight months before Nancy's disappearance, coincides with public searches of Nancy's home and other family financial data.

Now, investigators continue to emphasise that the family has been formally cleared, yet clearance does not equate to exoneration.



 
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Experts analysing the footage noted a level of confidence and familiarity in the way the individual moved through the property, described as 'ownership behaviour'.
bbm
🧐😳
 
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With 400 officers working around the clock on this - I would hope so.
400! And yet nothing…so much going on that we have no idea about but continue to speculate…
 
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