17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #14

[iluvmua]

What kind of vehicle did GZ have? I'm unsure from the video shown.

Truck

 

[jjenny]

Seriously? Do you really think he could utter a word after the sudden trauma his body and mind suffered?

MHO

There are numerous examples of people talking after being shot.

 

[jjenny]

There are several other witnesses that contradict what he says. I guess it just depends on what you want to believe happened.

Which witnesses? I can't name a single one. The guy on Anderson Cooper didn't know who was on top and who was on the bottom. The 13 year old boy only saw a single guy on the ground and doesn't know who that was either.

 

[mikeysmommom]

There are several other witnesses that contradict what he says. I guess it just depends on what you want to believe happened.

He was the closest witness ,IMO he could see the best it happened right behind his patio door.JMO

 

[Dr.Fessel]

What kind of vehicle did GZ have? I'm unsure from the video shown.

In the 911 call he says it is a truuuuuushk.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

According to police, she submitted a sworn statement. According to her, she submitted a sworn statement. She would have written and signed an affidavit. I'm not sure how anyone but herself could have "misquoted" her in this instance.

Wait, what?

Is there some question here over the veracity of her sworn statement?

I think I'm missing something. Although I admit I am very tired.

 

[christee]

There are numerous examples of people talking after being shot.

I didn't say a person can't speak. It is my opinion that TM would likely not be able to speak no matter where he was shot.

I understand you don't agree with me.

 

[mikeysmommom]

Seriously? Do you really think he could utter a word after the sudden trauma his body and mind suffered?

MHO

At 14 My hubby was shot on the right side of his head,he was walking around til ambulance came about 15 minutes,then passed out.They said only reason he lived was the bullet was old and it shattered he still has fragments.He had to have a titanium plate put it,thankfully he was hit in a part that was not used.It really all depends on a lot of things IMO.That was about 40 yrs ago he was lucky to survive it and have no lasting problems.

 

[m00c0w]

Wait, what?

Is there some question here over the veracity of her sworn statement?

I think I'm missing something. Although I admit I am very tired.

The police said the account she gave aligned with Zimmerman's account. She then said that the account they gave did not. If they have a signed affidavit from her, I'm not sure what exactly she can contest.

 

[shadowraiths]

It appears the HOA gets their neighborhood watch supplies from the National Neighborhood Watch Institute ( link ), as per this statement on their front page:

NNWI was the provider of the Sanford Florida sign seen so prominently in recent news coverage.​

With this disclaimer in the footnote:

NNWI is not affiliated with or endorsed by the National Sheriffs' Association (NSA).​

 

[w1df10wr]

Perfect thank-you, I'll make a copy and paste a picture. Need some input.

You're welcome!

 

[IzzyBlanche]

The police said the account she gave aligned with Zimmerman's account. She then said that the account they gave did not. If they have a signed affidavit from her, I'm not sure what exactly she can contest.

Okay, thanks.

So to sum up, she says one thing, the police say another, and no documents, her sworn affidavits or other, have been released to support either side.

Fair to say?

 

[Emeralgem]

Is it possible that at the scene they took GZ coat and shirt,Would they do that?He might have had a shirt and another jacket in his truck,or after taking his maybe had his wife bring him another shirt and jacket? I thank fully have never been in this position so I do not know if that is even possible.

OK.. We have a teenager lying dead in the grass and LE is going to let the man who shot this teenager change clothes when they arrive on the scene and before they transport him down to the police station?
All I can say is.. IF that happened, every officer who responded needs to be kicked off the force...JMHO..

 

[jjenny]

The police said the account she gave aligned with Zimmerman's account. She then said that the account they gave did not. If they have a signed affidavit from her, I'm not sure what exactly she can contest.

I am really curious as to what is there not aligning? She didn't witness the fight. She got out after the shot and says she saw Zimmerman standing on top of Trayvon. the rest of the story appears to be her speculating on what happened.

 

[jjenny]

OK.. We have a teenager lying dead in the grass and LE is going to let the man who shot this teenager change clothes when they arrive on the scene and before they transport him down to the police station?
All I can say is.. IF that happened, every officer who responded needs to be kicked off the force...JMHO..

I don't think he changed clothes because he still was wearing red jacket when he arrived at the police station.

 

[mikeysmommom]

OK.. We have a teenager lying dead in the grass and LE is going to let the man who shot this teenager change clothes when they arrive on the scene and before they transport him down to the police station?
All I can say is.. IF that happened, every officer who responded needs to be kicked off the force...JMHO..

I meant to bag it to save any forensic evidence.Not to just let him change clothes but so they could bag it right away. I do not know the procedure.

 

[mikeysmommom]

I don't think he changed clothes because he still was wearing red jacket when he arrived at the police station.

Maybe he had another red jacket lol.

 

[Peliman]

This person visited the complex - http://marinadedave.com/journal/2012/3/22/the-tragedy-of-trayvon-martin.html

http://transferstation.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/street-view-overhead1.jpg - he has a location for GZ's pick up marked.

Assuming for a minute the street view overhead is correct and listening to the 911 tape. GZ is talking to the LE dispatch describing his version. At some point he gets out of his truck to follow after Trayvon.

We know where GZ's truck is, my question is would he have enough time to reach the back of the building where the dispatcher tells him "we don't want you to do that." Was it a reasonable amount of time?

Hope I asked that right.

ETA: The LE dispatch call by GZ. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9A-gp8mrdw"]George Zimmerman 911 call about Trayvon Martin UnRedacted - YouTube[/ame]

 

[m00c0w]

Okay, thanks.

So to sum up, she says one thing, the police say another, and no documents, her sworn affidavits or other, have been released to support either side.

Fair to say?

That is correct. But why would the police fabricate this when it's all going to be released, anyway? It's not exactly like her testimony is the lynchpin of the case. To be quite honest, it seems like she didn't see much and then got into a tizzy because the police didn't interrogate her for hours. Her entire story doesn't align with anyone else's, and her narrative that she gives the media is full of specious assertions. She just doesn't strike me as a very credible witness.

JMO

 

[katydid23]

I haven't had your experience so I can't speak to how I would feel but if calling me foolish makes you feel you are making a point. :what: Have at it. Count me out though.

Sorry, but I guess I thought you took a couple of jabs at me so I responded kind of snarkily. This is a sensitive topic for all of us. I am raising kids who are half black and half white, so the issues of race are ever present in our lives.