17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #14

[i.b.nora]

That letter is signed by Bonaparte, City Manager

ETA: I have never known anyone with the last name, Bonaparte, except Napoleon and I didn't know him personally, lol.

He is from Haiti, hence the French name.

 

[deelytful1]

Because he says he had his son's GF call the juvi center to see if he was there.

But WHEN? First? Before he tried everything else??? The context you're putting it in makes it sound bad but if it were MY son.. I would be calling the space shuttle to see if he decided to get on... and then again.. why am I debating this because it really does NOT matter...

 

[Chris_Texas]

Ok watching CNN and they said it is fifteen minutes fron the community where TM was shot to the police station....So how long would the EMT'S been treating GZ..And the cop they had on said GZ's injuries could not have been that bad to not be brought to the hospital....IMHO JHMO and all that

We actually have pretty solid evidence that Zimmerman's injuries were very minor.

1. We can see what he looks like 30 minutes later

2. The officers handling him aren't wearing gloves -- they know he doesn't have blood on him.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

LOL ! Me too !!

One of my granddaughters last name is Napoleon.

 

[iluvmua]

But WHEN? First? Before he tried everything else??? The context you're putting it in makes it sound bad but if it were MY son.. I would be calling the space shuttle to see if he decided to get on... and then again.. why am I debating this because it really does NOT matter...

He does not say when she made the call.

 

[m00c0w]

OK, so what did these two have to gain by lying?

Disclaimer: a rhetorical question thrown out to the group at large.

They may feel they're doing the "right thing" by getting Zimmerman behind bars. Cutcher seems to be the most vocal of the two, and she goes on about how she thought he was going to get arrested, or how he should be arrested.

Cutcher may have also wanted some attention. She complained that the police only took a few lines of testimony from her, but in reality... That's all she saw when you boil it all down. When you take away her speculation, she heard the gunshot and walked outside. She only saw Zimmerman standing wherever, who told her to call 911. She went inside and called 911. Anything else is pretty much irrelevant.

To be honest, it sounds like wanted attention or to be a part of the investigation. When the cops didn't oblige her, she injected herself into the media. Three weeks later.

JMO

 

[Adrienne37]

Homeowners might be on hook in civil action in Trayvon Martin's death

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/os-trayvon-martin-hoa-20120329,0,6506594.story?obref=obinsite

The people who could end up paying the financial price for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin are, ultimately, the homeowners of the Retreat at Twin Lakes development in Sanford, experts say.

If their crime-watch program captain George Zimmerman gets charged with and convicted of killing Trayvon, the community's homeowner association and property-management company will likely be sued by the victim's family regarding the way the watch program was established and operated, said Donna Berger, a lawyer who specializes in homeowner-association law.

"They may wind up getting sued and getting hit with hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees and damages," said Berger, who works with the South Florida law firm Katzman, Garfinkel and Berger. "Who will pay is every member of the association, and they will have to make special assessments. ... It's a cautionary tale for other associations."

More at link....

And the worst part of this is that Zimmerman wasn't even a condo owner, he was only a renter.

I do hope that Trayvon's parents file a lawsuit against the HOA and the property management company. They deserve it.


~jmo~

 

[mikeysmommom]

Is it possible that at the scene they took GZ coat and shirt,Would they do that?He might have had a shirt and another jacket in his truck,or after taking his maybe had his wife bring him another shirt and jacket? I thank fully have never been in this position so I do not know if that is even possible.

 

[i.b.nora]

How do you know this to be true? How do you or I know he didn't call every person he knew and every hospital in the area???
According to what I read he thought Trayvon was bored and went to hang out with his cousin.....

Good accounting of his story here: http://www.themadisontimes.com/news_details.php?news_id=1875

Trayvon Martin's parents re-live a 'nightmare'
by George E. Curry, NNPA Special Contributor
March 28, 2012

 

[Chris_Texas]

I was asking about this video the other night. I went looking for it and couldn't find it - but NG (among others) just kept showing in the background over and over. Yes, sadly, I do think that is Trayvon - that is why I was asking. And no, you're right - it doesn't look no where near the sidewalk.

Thankx again to whoever found it. I thought that was what I saw when it was aired and now - yes, I think it is exactly what I saw -

BUT THINK ABOUT THIS NOW:

It shows there was a news crew that showed up on scene that night. They filmed. They have footage and some of that footage was edited out - it always is. I really and truly hope LE has gotten all their footage from that night. And I wonder what else they captured on film being at the scene and how long on the scene they were and when they got there.

Oh my, I have so many more questions now that this was found..........



JMHO

BBM -- I hope the FBI has the footage. I don't have a lot of respect for the local police there at this point. mmo

 

[IzzyBlanche]

She's also said she heard whines or whimpers, not screaming. And no sounds of a fight. We have another witness (the anonymous witness from the AC360 interview that directly contradicts this, and was even farther away than she purports to be). We also have 911 callers that claim they heard screaming, and we even have screaming up until the gunshot that is recorded on these tapes.

She only went outside for a few seconds after the gunshot, yet her story seems to be aligned in a certain way. She seems to speculate a lot based on seeing and hearing very little.

Thank you, I thought you meant other inconsistencies in what she said, rather than inconsistencies between her account and that of other witnesses.

 

[m00c0w]

Is it possible that at the scene they took GZ coat and shirt,Would they do that?He might have had a shirt and another jacket in his truck,or after taking his maybe had his wife bring him another shirt and jacket? I thank fully have never been in this position so I do not know if that is even possible.

I have mentioned before that he may have had another jacket in his vehicle, and they bagged the first on the scene when major crimes arrived. I routinely have one or two in the back of my Jeep. JMO

 

[m00c0w]

Thank you, I thought you meant other inconsistencies in what she said, rather than inconsistencies between her account and that of other witnesses.

No, the only inconsistency there was her standing/kneeling commentary. To me, that's something hard to mix up. However, she said kneeling once and it seems like she's said standing every time after.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

They may feel they're doing the "right thing" by getting Zimmerman behind bars. Cutcher seems to be the most vocal of the two, and she goes on about how she thought he was going to get arrested, or how he should be arrested.

Cutcher may have also wanted some attention. She complained that the police only took a few lines of testimony from her, but in reality... That's all she saw when you boil it all down. When you take away her speculation, she heard the gunshot and walked outside. She only saw Zimmerman standing wherever, who told her to call 911. She went inside and called 911. Anything else is pretty much irrelevant.

To be honest, it sounds like wanted attention or to be a part of the investigation. When the cops didn't oblige her, she injected herself into the media. Three weeks later.

JMO

I may be wrong, but IIRC she only injected herself into the media three weeks later because she was getting no response from the police.

 

[uvamerica]

That sounds like dialogue from a bad TV script. From your link:

"You got me" sounds like line from an old movie. I think George had a fantasy about himself being a hero. Calling 911 on the neighbors wasn't enough of a thrill for him anymore, he needed more, he needed a perfect storm to happen to live out his hero fantasy and become captain George the neighborhood watch hero. He probably saw himself accepting accolades and ceremonies in his honor in his daydreams. I really think George has a mental illness, but knows right from wrong. JMO

 

[jjenny]

I may be wrong, but IIRC she only injected herself into the media three weeks later because she was getting no response from the police.

But if she gave the police her report what else did she want from the police? She did not see the fight. She got outside after the shot. Police got a report from her. She appears to be speculating about what happened (since she didn't witness the fight), but why would police be interested in that?

 

[Yoda]

Good accounting of his story here: http://www.themadisontimes.com/news_details.php?news_id=1875

Trayvon Martin's parents re-live a 'nightmare'
by George E. Curry, NNPA Special Contributor
March 28, 2012

I wouldn't even think of calling a juvenile justice center or whatever. Isn't it just the police? I really would like to know when TM left the condo, what his little brother has to say about TM bringing him candy back, and when the video shows he was at the 711.

 

[mikeysmommom]

IMO Maybe TM said you shot me, stunned thinking it was only a fist fight.Never dreaming he would be shot.Horrible situation all around JMO.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

But if she gave the police her report what else did she want from the police? She did not see the fight. She got outside after the shot. Police got a report from her. She appears to be speculating about what happened (since she didn't witness the fight), but why would police be interested in that?

My understanding was she thought the police were misquoting her and she wanted to set the record straight regarding what she really said.

 

[Peliman]

So has it been determined yet where GZ's vehicle was when he got out of it while talking to the LE operator?